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WHITT

(2,868 posts)
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:40 PM Jul 2021

NYC In For Rude(y) Awakening?


Eric Adams Talks with David Remnick @ 'The New Yorker Radio Hour'


Adams only garnered 30% of the vote, while the total progressive vote was much larger. He claims he's a progressive, but he's not. Maybe when he was a Repub?, dunno. He also said he admires former Mayor Bloomberg. Ugh.

He's against mandatory vaccination of healthcare workers even though that's becoming the standard across the country.

He's also very protective of "high-income earners", ignoring the fact that most lower-income people pay far more in OTHER taxes than they do in income taxes.

He's talking about bringing back "Stop and Frisk", which was previously ruled to be unconstitutional, except renaming it 'Stop, Question, and Frisk'. He also wants to bring back other failed notorious Giuliani anti-crime units. Wow.


https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/tnyradiohour/segments/eric-adams-talks-david-remnick

(This is audio-only, so you have to click on the 'LISTEN' button)

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NYC In For Rude(y) Awakening? (Original Post) WHITT Jul 2021 OP
I had my issues with Adams, but claiming progressives were more popular is misleading... brooklynite Jul 2021 #1
Well WHITT Jul 2021 #2
Not the way he was framing his NYC Mayoral campaign... brooklynite Jul 2021 #4
Yang WHITT Jul 2021 #5
Which was a national campaign issue, not once for the NYC Mayoral. brooklynite Jul 2021 #6
So WHITT Jul 2021 #8
Bringing back stop and frisk Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #3
Surprise to Liberals living in safe communities alphafemale Jul 2021 #7
Yes and that's why I knew Adams would win. NYC Liberal Jul 2021 #9
Yes, But WHITT Jul 2021 #11
I Tried To Tell People Me. Jul 2021 #10
I think NYC is better off with moderates in control Polybius Jul 2021 #12
Bloomberg WHITT Jul 2021 #13

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
1. I had my issues with Adams, but claiming progressives were more popular is misleading...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:48 PM
Jul 2021

The reality is that the progressive candidates (Wiley, Stringer, Morales, Donovan) in aggregate got only 32.2% in the first round, while moderates (Adams, Garcia, Yang, McGuire) got 65%. And with RCV, people chose to shift their votes to Garcia, rather than Wiley.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
2. Well
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:55 PM
Jul 2021

Yang has his quirks, but I would consider him a progressive.

More importantly, a good number of establishment Dems have been saying, Adams won, so the party needs to be more like him, except he only got 30% of the vote.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
4. Not the way he was framing his NYC Mayoral campaign...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:13 PM
Jul 2021
NYC mayoral candidate Andrew Yang wants extra cops focused on violent crime

Also, would you believe the Party needed to be like Wiley who only got 21%?

We have Ranked-Choice Voting. More than half the voters picked Adams, followed by Garcia. They didn't pick Wiley.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
6. Which was a national campaign issue, not once for the NYC Mayoral.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:24 PM
Jul 2021

And his UBI strategy proposed eliminating other social safety net programs as a substitute.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
8. So
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jul 2021

1) That's the entire point of a UBI, you would no longer need the myriad other programs among how many various agencies which people are forced to jump through hoops for, as you would have a basic income.

2) I could reverse your argument and say Yang's proposal on the police was local not national. I don't know how many quit, hopefully some of the White Nationalist quit, as they don't want to be held accountable for their actions.

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
3. Bringing back stop and frisk
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:57 PM
Jul 2021

is not moderate, it’s reactionary and unfairly targets minorities. No Democrat should support it.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
7. Surprise to Liberals living in safe communities
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:30 PM
Jul 2021

People living in "less than safe" communities want criminals off their streets.

New York Mayoral race should be a wake up call.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
9. Yes and that's why I knew Adams would win.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:32 PM
Jul 2021

I did not vote for him. But I strongly suspected he was going to win because crime is a big issue.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
11. Yes, But
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 10:47 AM
Jul 2021

Just as with Donnie, he will become mayor only because of the election system, as the majorities did not vote for him. Just as with Donnie, he'll have no mandate. And now he's advocating policy positions he did not even lay out during the campaign.

Plus, there's plenty of reasons to assume his policy positions on crime will not work, as they didn't work for Rudy. He just happened to be mayor during the Clinton administration, when crime fell precipitously nationwide.

Not an auspicious situation.


WHITT

(2,868 posts)
13. Bloomberg
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:12 PM
Jul 2021

benefitted (eventually) from being in office during the recovery from the Great Recession, and the Obama terms, just as Rudy benefitted from being in office during the Clinton terms.


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