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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 12:48 PM Jul 2021

Baby birds are dropping dead :: 'Keep your feeders down,' experts say

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/birds-dying-disease-2021-virginia-dc-maryland-dmv-take-down-bird-feeders/65-9e135025-86bc-4e29-bd44-9cb44dd43909

Baby birds are dropping dead :: 'Keep your feeders down,' experts say

Reports of dead or stumbling birds with crusty, swollen eyes, are pouring into wildlife agencies in D.C., Maryland and Virginia. No one knows what's causing it.

Author: Eliana Block, Evan Koslof
Published: 12:18 PM EDT July 23, 2021
Updated: 8:59 AM EDT July 26, 2021

WASHINGTON — A porch, a cup of coffee, a newspaper and a feeder full of birds: it's one of the few reliable experiences that got us through the pandemic of 2020. But as people flock back to bistros and concerts, birds in the DMV are encountering their own epidemic.

In June, wildlife organizations advised the public to take down their bird feeders and dry out their birdbaths to contain a potential contagion killing and infecting baby birds. Their announcements described birds dropping dead, or found stumbling with crusty, swollen eyes and signs of neurological issues.

Weeks passed without any conclusions as to what is making these chicks sick. That's when viewer Ralph from Gaithersburg contacted the Verify team.

QUESTION: Should you put your birdfeeders back up?

ANSWER: Wildlife officials in D.C., Maryland and Virginia all say no; keep your bird feeders down for now.

WHAT WE FOUND: Right around late April, early May, Meagan Thomas said she remembers getting calls about sick and dead birds.

"Really swollen or crusty eyes, lots of discharge," Thomas, a watchable wildlife biologist, said. "In a lot of cases, there was also some sort of evidence of neurological problems...some equilibrium issues or they were just kind of circling in place."

The species at risk are Starlings, Blue Jays, the Common Grackle, and Robins, and the illness has been noted in fledglings, or young birds.

While the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources has received over 1,400 reports of dead or sick birds, Thomas says that around 400-500 birds displayed these specific symptoms.

Most of the reports came from northern Virginia, including hot spots in Arlington, Fairfax, Alexandria and Loudoun County.

Without a precise cause, wildlife officials don't have a precise name for it. For now, authorities are calling it a "mortality event."

"We're not labeling it with like 'disease,' or anything like that at this point," Thomas said.

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Baby birds are dropping dead :: 'Keep your feeders down,' experts say (Original Post) NurseJackie Jul 2021 OP
We've taken our feeders down. johnp3907 Jul 2021 #1
Same here. I miss watching them during the day. I also miss... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #2
Eastern North Carolina, no, I don't have any bird feeders, marie999 Jul 2021 #3
Sounds fun! I'm glad you haven't seen any problems. It appears to be localized in the DC/MD/VA area... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #4
we've taken down feeders except for hummingbirds nt Fresh_Start Jul 2021 #5
I can't get hummingbirds to visit. The only thing my hummingbird feeders attracted... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #7
I have my feeder hanging from a garden shepards hook. Niagara Jul 2021 #31
I used a shepherd's hook also... but I never thought of treating it to deter the ants. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #33
Same here. tosh Jul 2021 #17
Odd, we have a ton of Robins here and I never see them on a bird feeder. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #6
Our robins stick to the ground... they like bugs and worms. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #9
Yep. Makes me wonder if it's water-born. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #11
I remember a decade or so, there was a problem with commercial millet for birdseed... haele Jul 2021 #8
You make an excellent point about keeping the feeders clean... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #10
Same here. The thistle feeder is emptied every 2-3 days, the fruit & nut mix feeder every 4-5 days. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #13
That Seems Wise ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #15
I am in Washington and when we first learned of this last year cilla4progress Jul 2021 #12
I know. I hate the thought that I may have contributed to the problem. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #14
I took my birdfeeder down Peachhead22 Jul 2021 #16
I miss the cardinals too. It's quiet around here when they're gone. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #18
My 40 acres has lots of food sources for our feathered friends. Talitha Jul 2021 #19
Yikes! We've never had any bears here... but we do have: NurseJackie Jul 2021 #21
I'm in NOVA, and this is the first I've heard of this. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #20
Thank you! (Tell your neighbors.) NurseJackie Jul 2021 #22
Will do! 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #23
Our feeders have been down for most of a month, though. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #24
I hope the experts find out what it is. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #25
I have a birdfeeder I never fill iemanja Jul 2021 #26
My kitty loves to catch birds. A feeder is a trap for birds in my yard. librechik Jul 2021 #27
My feeders are wide open and cleaned daily. I also provide water with all these high temps. I have KewlKat Jul 2021 #28
People are taking the feeders down all across the country maxsolomon Jul 2021 #29
I have a hummingbird feeder. Niagara Jul 2021 #30
I had a bird feeder until the drought here GusBob Jul 2021 #32
All of our feeders are down, including hummingbird and oriole. Greybnk48 Jul 2021 #34

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. Same here. I miss watching them during the day. I also miss...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:01 PM
Jul 2021

... watching Mr. Squirrel try to defeat the anti-squirrel baffles and the spring-loaded snap-tight doors.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
3. Eastern North Carolina, no, I don't have any bird feeders,
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jul 2021

but with 9 chickens and 12 turkeys, I spread a lot of feed on the ground around the yard, chicken hen laying feed, scratch feed, and wild bird feed and they get fresh water twice a day. A lot of wild birds eat the feed. I have not noticed any sick birds.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Sounds fun! I'm glad you haven't seen any problems. It appears to be localized in the DC/MD/VA area...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:04 PM
Jul 2021

... for now. I hope it doesn't spread.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. I can't get hummingbirds to visit. The only thing my hummingbird feeders attracted...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jul 2021

... was ANTS! I gave up.

Niagara

(7,595 posts)
31. I have my feeder hanging from a garden shepards hook.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jul 2021

I had problems with ants at first too. I placed a small amount of baby oil on my fingers and coated the shepards hook with it. No more ants.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
33. I used a shepherd's hook also... but I never thought of treating it to deter the ants.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 11:10 AM
Jul 2021

That's a good idea!

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
6. Odd, we have a ton of Robins here and I never see them on a bird feeder.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jul 2021

.

Perhaps it's a water-born disease.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Our robins stick to the ground... they like bugs and worms.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:06 PM
Jul 2021

I've never even seen them near the scattered/fallen seed around our feeder either.

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
11. Yep. Makes me wonder if it's water-born.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jul 2021

.

Mourning Doves will eat the seed I throw on the ground.

Some birds will hit the thistle feeder, some the droppings from it. Others will hit the Nut & Berry Mix feeder, such as Cardinals, Jays, Woodpeckers and a slew of other smaller birds. And some of the smaller birds will grab the dropping from that along with the squirrels.

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haele

(12,647 posts)
8. I remember a decade or so, there was a problem with commercial millet for birdseed...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:06 PM
Jul 2021

Pesticide residue on millet and maybe thistle in some lots were damaging to small birds, and there were several recalls both for wild birdseed and pet birdseed - think it was Hartz and Katy. This was considered a processing issue, as the seeds weren't properly cleaned prior to being bagged.
The question is whether the current is in the processing environment or in the physical environment; perhaps by not cleaning out bird feeders regularly or climate change issues (increased fungal spores, pollution, bacteria due to warming).

Haele

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. You make an excellent point about keeping the feeders clean...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jul 2021

... I'll wash my feeder about every other fill-up. I had not heard about feed being a source of contamination and disease. I buy the "Audubon" brand feed from Costco. It's a good blend that attracts many different types of birds.

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
13. Same here. The thistle feeder is emptied every 2-3 days, the fruit & nut mix feeder every 4-5 days.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:12 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)

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The bags are stored in the entry hallway in a dry semi-lit area, not in darkness.

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ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
15. That Seems Wise
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:55 PM
Jul 2021

Seeds & fruits are prime sources for mold development. Eating too much of that can't be good for the birds, although they probably eat some in nature.
We've only ever had a hummingbird feeder, but we rarely saw any so I took it down.
I used to dump it, rinse it, and add sweet water about every 10 days. The water never smelled or looked funny, so I think it worked.
But, cleaning out the feeders is a good plan.

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
12. I am in Washington and when we first learned of this last year
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jul 2021

we took our birdfeeders down. Sad and tragic.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. I know. I hate the thought that I may have contributed to the problem.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jul 2021

Our feeders are empty, but they stay up... mounted to a pole.

I have about 30 pounds of birdseed remaining. I hope it doesn't expire or go rancid.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
16. I took my birdfeeder down
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jul 2021

It kinda sucked. I love watching the birds from my window and being woken up by their chirping and songs. For a couple days after I took it down I even had a pair of male and female cardinals that were sitting on the perch where the birdfeeder was looking at me and chirping.

But whatever it is it's killing birds in Connecticut too. I hope the wildlife biologists can figure out what is and help somehow.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. I miss the cardinals too. It's quiet around here when they're gone.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jul 2021

We also have a lot of Carolina Chickadees

Talitha

(6,582 posts)
19. My 40 acres has lots of food sources for our feathered friends.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 05:25 PM
Jul 2021

I used to feed the Birds though, but stopped many years ago.

Watching the Birds was very enjoyable, but the seeds also attracted Chipmunks, Ground Squirrels, Racoons, Shrews, Mice, Meadow Voles, Red and Grey Squirrels, and an occasional Black Bear.

Taking the feeder in at sunset definitely stopped the large nocturnal animals from emptying the contents every night. But the little animals (Mice, Shrews, etc) continued to scrounge at night for fallen seeds. Then the Foxes and Coyotes started showing up to get the Mice, etc.

I finally put my foot down after my Dog got canine influenza from the Coyotes. Poor baby was a wreck for a few days but loved the diet of ground beef and rice the Vet told me to cook for her.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. Yikes! We've never had any bears here... but we do have:
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:12 PM
Jul 2021

Yikes! We've never had any bears here... but we do have: deer, foxes, skunks, gophers, squirrels, chipmunks, raccoons, foxes, owls, hawks, opossums, moles, woodchucks, bats and snakes.

My bird feeder also attracted the occasional feral cat (who would stalk the birds and squirrels that feed on the ground. I couldn't have that so I'd trap them and give them to animal control so that they could be adopted.

I'm sorry to hear your dog got the flu... but very pleased that she recovered and enjoyed the pampering you gave her.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
20. I'm in NOVA, and this is the first I've heard of this.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:10 PM
Jul 2021

I went out and removed the birdfeeder from one of our backyard dogwoods before responding to the OP.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
24. Our feeders have been down for most of a month, though.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:22 PM
Jul 2021

Whatever this is isn't in our area yet, supposedly. But I found a baby robin that seemed to be suffering from this about 4 weeks ago.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. I hope the experts find out what it is.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:29 PM
Jul 2021

I remember we used to have a lot of bats in our neighborhood, but a nose-fungus (or something) wiped them all out. Now we have none. Our neighbor even did some research in how to make bat-houses to try and attract them... but none came.

The whole thing is upsetting. (And I'm sure the birds aren't too happy about it either.)

librechik

(30,674 posts)
27. My kitty loves to catch birds. A feeder is a trap for birds in my yard.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:53 PM
Jul 2021

maybe a hummingbird feeder way up on one of the windows. Someday.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
28. My feeders are wide open and cleaned daily. I also provide water with all these high temps. I have
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:58 PM
Jul 2021

few Robins, mostly Sparrows and Finches and our beloved Quail...lots of Quail. I've even had a pair of mallards that visited several times a day in Jun.

We keep the squirrel feed away from the bird area and neither seem to bother each other. Watching them all helps to keep me sane.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
29. People are taking the feeders down all across the country
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:35 PM
Jul 2021

but WHERE is this happening? All across the country?

Niagara

(7,595 posts)
30. I have a hummingbird feeder.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:48 PM
Jul 2021

My one and only hummingbird feeder had a seal break and it kept leaking.



I repurposed a Kikkoman Soy Sauce bottle to replace the broken feeder. It was working well up until a week ago and now the hummingbirds can't get at the feeder because the hornets are hogging it all the time.


Time to go buy a real hummingbird feeder again.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
34. All of our feeders are down, including hummingbird and oriole.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 11:33 AM
Jul 2021

Our birdbath is dry as well. I plan to Clorox them all before they go back up, when we get the green light.

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