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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:03 PM Jul 2021

Parkland Survivor's QAnon Dad Believes Massacre Was a Hoax, Berates Him for 'Being Part of It'


By Aidan McLaughlin Jul 26th, 2021, 12:36 pm

A survivor of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, in Parkland, Florida said his father now thinks the massacre was a hoax.

The survivor of the 2018 shooting, who is now 18 years old, spoke to Vice after writing in a Reddit post that his father came to believe that shooting was a hoax after taking an interest in the QAnon conspiracy theory.

Vice did not disclose the identity of the survivor, who the outlet identified as Bill, and was “part of the final graduating class of survivors of the 2018 shooting” that killed 14 students and three school staff.

“I think my dad has gone fucking insane,” he wrote in the Reddit post. “It’s going way too far and I have trouble processing the last 5 months. He’s always been very conservative, but now QAnon has consumed his life to the point where it’s tearing our family apart along with my mental health.”

The survivor explained that in January his father watched a video of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) harassing David Hogg, and came to believe the conspiracy theory that the shooting was a hoax, carried out by “​​a radical commie actor,” in order to push gun control.

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Parkland Survivor's QAnon Dad Believes Massacre Was a Hoax, Berates Him for 'Being Part of It' (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2021 OP
Maybe time for him to wash his hands of dad, at least seriously distance himself. Thomas Hurt Jul 2021 #1
The original article says he's basically doing that. chowder66 Jul 2021 #11
How can this be? His own child went thru it... 3catwoman3 Jul 2021 #2
Horrifying. Qanuts need to be hospitalized, for the safety of everybody else. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #3
oh! QANUTS! I like that! I have been calling them QMAGAts for ages Celerity Jul 2021 #8
The fact this story originated with Vice makes me a bit skeptical. marble falls Jul 2021 #4
Actually, it originated on Reddit: OneGrassRoot Jul 2021 #6
So go to Vice and read the articles and interview with the young man... DonViejo Jul 2021 #7
Poor kid. Time to cut dad out. EllieBC Jul 2021 #5
This level of delusion is a sickness. Bristlecone Jul 2021 #9
trauma does weird things to people. mopinko Jul 2021 #10
Dad is super conservative and drinks per the original article. chowder66 Jul 2021 #13
The original Reddit post is in a subreddit /QAnonCasualities csziggy Jul 2021 #12
Vice who wrote the original article says they confirmed he is who he says he is..... chowder66 Jul 2021 #14
Thank you - I didn't go to the Vice article csziggy Jul 2021 #15
You're welcome and I wish the same...he says he'll be out in August. nt chowder66 Jul 2021 #22
Poor, poor kid. There are thousands of these stories now. Hortensis Jul 2021 #16
Unbelievable wryter2000 Jul 2021 #17
What about all those funerals? Where are those 'fake' victims? keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #18
Whoa! I thought my family was fked-up! OMGWTF Jul 2021 #19
Whoa! I thought my family was fked-up! OMGWTF Jul 2021 #20
With respect to the First Amendment, something needs to be done about right wing propaganda. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #21
Abandoning your own child for wackaQdoo alphafemale Jul 2021 #23

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. Maybe time for him to wash his hands of dad, at least seriously distance himself.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:06 PM
Jul 2021

Dad is political zombie, you aren't going to fix him. Damn shame though.

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
2. How can this be? His own child went thru it...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jul 2021

…and he believes someone else? This is beyond “fucking insane.” I can’t even find an adjective.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
5. Poor kid. Time to cut dad out.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jul 2021

Kids, you don’t need your parents if they are toxic. You don’t owe emotionally abusive parents anything. Walk away.

Bristlecone

(10,125 posts)
9. This level of delusion is a sickness.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jul 2021

I’m starting to think subliminal messaging works and is at play. I just can’t wrap my head around any other cause for such insanity.

How can you disbelieve your own child’s experience and one that you yourself had to be deeply part of just a few short years ago. Brainwashing is my only explanation.

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
10. trauma does weird things to people.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jul 2021

in this one case, i can accept that dad has second hand survivor's guilt.
not saying he does, just i can believe that.

cant put myself in the shoes of the survivor's parents any more than those who lost a child.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
12. The original Reddit post is in a subreddit /QAnonCasualities
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jul 2021
r/QAnonCasualties
Have a friend or loved one taken in by QAnon? Look here for support, resources and a place to vent. Peruse old posts, settle in and relax. Learn to heal, deal and deprogram. Posts should relate to the direct experience of dealing with Q/adjacent folk. This can include posts with support, info or practical advice. Anyone can comment, but be substantive and in good faith.
https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/


If you want to read the original go here: https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/comments/onq9ig/i_survived_the_stoneman_douglas_school_shooting/

This being Reddit, yeah, the post could be fake. But the heartbreak sounds real.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
15. Thank you - I didn't go to the Vice article
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:01 PM
Jul 2021

I looked it up on Reddit since I prefer going to the original source. Of course, Reddit is full of BS posts.

Poor kid. I hope he gets out on his own soon and goes no contact with his Dad.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Poor, poor kid. There are thousands of these stories now.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jul 2021

He does need to distance emotionally for self protection and as part of that work on understanding.

For him to just abandon his father and even cut him out of his life would be wrong, though, and potentially very harmful to himself as well as his father and others. So no to just walking away from both his own responsibilities and from what's supposed to be the family support everyone should have.

It's not true that QNuts can't become rational again, and most QVictims really want and need their parents and children back. What's more worth waiting, hoping, working for?

In any case, this son and father have many years ahead to fix this. Hopefully speaking out is a first step of many that will eventually bring these two together again.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
18. What about all those funerals? Where are those 'fake' victims?
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jul 2021

What about all those funerals?

Where are those 'fake' victims?

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
21. With respect to the First Amendment, something needs to be done about right wing propaganda.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:55 PM
Jul 2021

I am not one for banning speech, but I do think that there is a difference between a person being able to stand on a soapbox (yes, I know it is antiquated) and speak out against the government, and for there to be a coordinated effort by a multinational media corporation and several other coordinated networks funded by billionaires, spreading known lies, with the intention of creating political divisions in which they can profit monetarily and maintain power in government.

I do not know what can be done. I know that because of the First Amendment, that the government cannot stop people from lying. But we need to do something.

This man did not turn against his own son, who was a victim of a traumatic, life altering event, on his own. Conservatives, prior to the advent of Fox News, right wing radio, and websites, were not this consistently mean and devoid of facts. To be sure, there were always major differences between liberals and conservatives in politics, but under Reagan and with the advent of right wing media, where we used to all get the same facts and argue about their implications and policy to address them, we are now living in almost completely separate worlds. Our world, in which facts and the scientific method are still valued, and theirs in which devotion to conservatism and cult like figures, is more important than anything, even family relationships.

Right wing propaganda is tearing this country apart.

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