Magical Thinking of Anti-vaxxers

[no_hypocrisy]

Without evidence, these individuals believe the following, notwithstanding the obvious contradictions:

1. They are invincible. It's like they're perpetually 15.
2. But they don't believe they can be asymptomatic Covid infected.
3. Even if they believe they hit the jackpot that they feel great while having Covid, they enjoy thinking *if* they are super-spreaders, they're only killing liberals and Democrats. They think the virus can't kill Republicans and MAGAts.
4. If they do have a bad time with Covid, end up in the ICU, they can still get the vaccine and it will cure them, just like that.
5. It's worse that "the Government" tells them what to do than to take preventative measures for their survivability and their family's safety.

[RKP5637]

1. They are a demented bunch!!! n/t

[Diamond_Dog]

2. I hear a lot of this ...

“I’ve gone this long without getting sick, so I must be naturally immune!”

[John Ludi]

3. I haven't died yet...

so guess I never will.

Ever.

From anything.

[NQAS]

4. Yes, they're demented.

But in their little minds they are right and they are showing their loyalty to their dear leader by refusing the vaccine.

I say it's time to stop urging them to get vaccinated. They're stupid and irrational. They won't change. We need to change the paradigm.

Don't care if you don't get vaccinated.

But without proof of vaccination, you don't get to go shopping. You don't get to go to sports venues. You don't get to go to concerts. You don't get to go to restaurants and bars. Yes, this requires cooperation from a host of private enterprises, so it's not likely it will happen. But, on the flip side, we need a national campaign urging the vaccinated to avoid any venue that allows the unvaccinated to enter. If the unvaccinated are going to infect anybody, it will be fellow social misfits and outcasts and republicans. The rest of us will attend safe venues. And the private sector might just change its tunes.

The government needs to create, urgently, a checkable vaccine database where people can enter the data from their vaccine cards, complete with location, dates, and vaccine lot numbers. Not on the database, no entry. You can't fly or take the train or the bus. Don't care if you wear masks or not because without proof of vaccination you don't get to enter the airport, etc.

Businesses that wish to terminate employment due to vaccine refusal may do so without risk (pretty much at will nationwise anyway, so that can happen now, if they're willing to stand up and be counted).

And this idea will gain no traction, as it's unethical and almost certainly illegal. Unvaccinated covid patients get the most basic of care (to be defined later), and private insurance companies are permitted to refuse coverage of covid care.

Vaccine refusers are misfits and social outcasts. They have decided to play no role in civic life or to participate in the social constructs of daily life among civilized people. They don't get to define the rules of the game anymore. They don't get to be coddled or kowtowed to. They don't get to participate in interviews in which they say it's our obligation to understand them. Nope. It isn't. WE understand them just fine. We just don't like them and we don't trust them.

Oh, and no vaccine, you don't get to take your seat in the Senate or House. No fines because you won't be permitted in the Capitol in the first place.

[PortTack]

5. That magical thinking leads to an ICU bed where if intubated only 2 in 10 survive

The 2 that do survive, may wish they had died when they find out just how long their road to recovery will be. And, it may very well not be a full recovery

[Hugh_Lebowski]

6. That is not really 'it' ...

Their thinking goes more along these lines:

1) Not everyone gets exposed, I may not,
2) Even if I do, there's only a X% chance of dying for my age group. In some cases, this is 1% or less,
3) The vaccine was developed in a hurried manner, and isn't even officially FDA approved yet,
4) There is a non-zero possibility that there's some massive conspiracy afoot to cull the human population via this vaccine,
5) Therefore, when I combine the 'risks' of 3 + 4 together, come up with my own Y% number for 'chance that the vaccine might badly hurt/kill me before/instead of C19' ... I find that Y>X (calculated in step 2). So I decline the vaccine.

That is how it's working for the vast majority of them.

[lindysalsagal]

7. I heard it from an ex friend: "I can never get it." A year ago, she was, "It's a hoax."

Does she admit that she was wrong a year ago? No. Of course not.

I think she thinks god will protect her.

When I countered with, "Ok, but you need to protect everyone else" she stopped talking and hung up.

She's a very smart person, with an impressive career: Made tons of money, lives alone. She's very strong.

And completely delusional.

[Shermann]

9. What if God's protection already came in the form of guiding us to the vaccines?

He does work in mysterious ways after all.

[RainCaster]

10. Very smart, but socially ignorant

That's why she is living alone.

[John Ludi]

8. I had some interesting

conversations over the weekend with a couple people that have pretty much signed on to the whole package of anti-vax propaganda that has been pushed out there. They are not stupid people by any means, but they have done what many do on many fronts: let someone else do the thinking for them and buy a pre-packed set of notions that allows them to be part of a subculture. I tired to explain my nuanced points of view about the subject to little avail: they basically feel that I have bought into the main competing package (the MSM narrative) hook, line and sinker.

Hopefully they come through all of this unscathed and I continue to look like a "sheeple" in their eyes, as I like them, but they are practically inviting the virus to set up camp and picnic on them and there is really nothing I can do about it.