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kentuck

(111,069 posts)
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:10 PM Jul 2021

Should Liz Cheney be named Co-Chair of the Select Committee?

Since Bennie Thompson has already been named the Chair, and just to show it is a bi-partisan Committee, give them equal status?

After all, it is not about politics. It is beyond Democratic or Republican Party. It is about saving our democracy.

Nancy understands that public sentiment is everything.

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Should Liz Cheney be named Co-Chair of the Select Committee? (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2021 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #1
Sounds sensible to me. patricia92243 Jul 2021 #2
No. She's already been designated the Ranking Member, which is Ocelot II Jul 2021 #3
Would it be harmful to make a gesture to those American people... kentuck Jul 2021 #4
They don't agree with Liz Cheney either. NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #7
At this point? No, screw them. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #9
No. Hat's off to Cheney but we're in the majority for once so we should not... brush Jul 2021 #29
No. There is no obligation to have one of the 2 GOP members be a co-chair. NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #5
NO happy feet Jul 2021 #6
Repubs had their opportunity to do a co-chair thing ala a 911 type committee and chose against it. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2021 #8
A public service reminder to all. Moostache Jul 2021 #10
So the question would be: Is it about "cherishing a base character" or is it something else? kentuck Jul 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #15
It's not like the majority of the Republican Party is working with Democrats. kentuck Jul 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #25
No. No no no no no NO! CrackityJones75 Jul 2021 #27
Merely urging caution Moostache Jul 2021 #18
Are you saying she won't act responsibly on the Committee? brooklynite Jul 2021 #17
Not exactly Moostache Jul 2021 #21
"NOT TO TRUST A REPUBLICAN" brooklynite Jul 2021 #24
Not about that. CrackityJones75 Jul 2021 #28
Other than "we know Republicans will do this" there's no evidence that she'll act that way brooklynite Jul 2021 #33
I've learned one thing kacekwl Jul 2021 #32
No. NewHendoLib Jul 2021 #12
What does Mme Speaker of the House say? Hekate Jul 2021 #13
She will make the right decision. kentuck Jul 2021 #16
That's what I think, too Hekate Jul 2021 #19
No. Liz Cheney will control the verbage and reduce GOP accountability. Pobeka Jul 2021 #14
My answer is no. She is the ranking member. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #20
When Nancy was talking about public sentiment... kentuck Jul 2021 #23
The majority of Americans are likely already standing behind the commission. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #30
No. Harker Jul 2021 #26
No. kacekwl Jul 2021 #31
No, we have to learn to fight the Republicans under the rules that they laid out. Chainfire Jul 2021 #34
The Committee must be as "non-partisan" as humanly possible. kentuck Jul 2021 #36
Congressional committees are by their nature partisan animals Bucky Jul 2021 #38
No, it would undermine her with the sane Republicans and Independents disgusted by Trumpism gulliver Jul 2021 #35
NO Bucky Jul 2021 #37
Give me a break. ecstatic Jul 2021 #39
In my opinion, it could be a very smart politiical move... kentuck Jul 2021 #40
No. Iggo Jul 2021 #41

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Ocelot II

(115,656 posts)
3. No. She's already been designated the Ranking Member, which is
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:12 PM
Jul 2021

the appropriate title for the minority party's most senior committee member. There's no need for a co-chair.

NH Ethylene

(30,806 posts)
7. They don't agree with Liz Cheney either.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:15 PM
Jul 2021

It would not make any difference in the way the public will view this commission (if a co-chair is even needed).

brush

(53,758 posts)
29. No. Hat's off to Cheney but we're in the majority for once so we should not...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:05 PM
Jul 2021

concede any power to the insurrection party.

NH Ethylene

(30,806 posts)
5. No. There is no obligation to have one of the 2 GOP members be a co-chair.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:14 PM
Jul 2021

Nancy should choose whoever she thinks will do the best job.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
10. A public service reminder to all.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:28 PM
Jul 2021

Aesop's Fables and other works of antiquity have addressed this many times by many names...

In "The Scorpion and The Turtle":

A turtle carries the scorpion across the river, and the turtle survives the scorpion's sting - thanks to its protective shell. The turtle is baffled by the scorpion's behavior because they are old friends and the scorpion must have known that its stinger would not pierce the turtle's shell. The scorpion responds that it acted neither out of malice nor ingratitude, but merely an irresistible and indiscriminate urge to sting. The turtle then delivers the following reflection:

Truly have the sages said that to cherish a base character is to give one's honor to the wind, and to involve one's own self in embarrassment.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
11. So the question would be: Is it about "cherishing a base character" or is it something else?
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:36 PM
Jul 2021

No one Party can solve the problems of this country. We must work together for the truth and good or we accomplish nothing.

Response to kentuck (Reply #11)

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
22. It's not like the majority of the Republican Party is working with Democrats.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:51 PM
Jul 2021

Politics ain't beanbag. I understand that.

It's a chess game, not checkers. Everything is not black and white. There are many gray areas where we have to play the game. I have confidence that Nancy Pelosi understands the game very well.

Response to kentuck (Reply #22)

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
27. No. No no no no no NO!
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:58 PM
Jul 2021

EVERY time we try and reach across the aisle, go beyond what is expected, offer the olive branch WE GET SCREWED!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
18. Merely urging caution
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:47 PM
Jul 2021

Liz Cheney is, was and always will be Dick Cheney's daughter...on the committe is fine...co-chair? Nope.

BTW, there is nothing anyone can do to make the GQP accept anything about Jan 6th...no mattet what, so do not mistake an enemy of the progressive cause as a true ally because of temporary agreements.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
21. Not exactly
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:50 PM
Jul 2021

On the committee is fine...co-chair is not.

If i thought bipartisanship was possible, i might be inclined to give more...the past 30 years show us over and over again NOT TO TRUST A REPUBLICANS.

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
24. "NOT TO TRUST A REPUBLICAN"
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:54 PM
Jul 2021

So I'll ask again: do you think she's going to act irresponsibly on the Committee?

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
28. Not about that.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:00 PM
Jul 2021

She will act in the best interest of her version of the republican party. She will take shots at the Democratic Party where she can you better believe it.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
32. I've learned one thing
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:15 PM
Jul 2021

the last 20 years, never trust a Republican. Or anyone named Cheney. Fool me once.....

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
14. No. Liz Cheney will control the verbage and reduce GOP accountability.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:47 PM
Jul 2021

She has asipirations of her own that are a conflict of interest.

She won't allow full accountability because that would damage the GOP too much to let her have a shot in 2024.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
20. My answer is no. She is the ranking member.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:50 PM
Jul 2021

My questions to you are:

1. Can you define "public"? Once you define public can you answer # 2?

2. What exactly do you think that the "public" will take from the selection of a Republican "co-chair"?

3. Do you think that choosing a Republican co-chair, especially one who was stripped of her position in Republican leadership, is going to engender any support from Republicans other than those who are already supportive of the process without Cheney as co-chair?

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
23. When Nancy was talking about public sentiment...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 06:53 PM
Jul 2021

I think she was talking about the majority of the American people standing behind you.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
30. The majority of Americans are likely already standing behind the commission.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:05 PM
Jul 2021

People who are paying attention, who are not the fervent supporters of Donald Trump, are likely already standing behind the commission and wanting to find out what lead to the attack on the Capital.

I do not think that making Liz Cheney a co-chair will substantively change any dynamics. As the ranking member, she will play a vital role in the process anyway.

Chainfire

(17,515 posts)
34. No, we have to learn to fight the Republicans under the rules that they laid out.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:19 PM
Jul 2021

Give them everything that they have conceded to us. We have got to stop being the nice guy that gets pushed around. We have the power for the next 18 months, we better learn how to use it effectively or we will lose it for all time. We may be on the final lap of Democracy, and leading by a nose, it is time use the spurs.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
36. The Committee must be as "non-partisan" as humanly possible.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jul 2021

We should try to work for a consensus. Otherwise, what have we accomplished?

Bucky

(53,984 posts)
38. Congressional committees are by their nature partisan animals
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jul 2021

A special commission could have been more nonpartisan.
One of the two parties shot that idea down. So they'll go with an ordinary Congressional committee doing the work of investigating and recommending changes to fix the problems.

Bucky

(53,984 posts)
37. NO
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:28 PM
Jul 2021

Ranking minority member is honor enough. They should stick to doing this as a regular work of Congress. Improvisation is completely uncalled for.

This is their job so let them do it and follow the proper forms and procedures.

ecstatic

(32,673 posts)
39. Give me a break.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:43 PM
Jul 2021

Has anyone actually called for that? Who exactly is the target audience for such a move? We have three groups of Americans at this point. The ones who give a shit about January 6th, the ones who don't, and the ones who have no idea what's going on. The people who give a shit about January 6th are not clamoring to hear from the party of TFG right now. This is a woman who voted for tRump after everything we've seen. I'm really glad she's distinguishing herself from McCarthy and others, but that's a very low bar.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
40. In my opinion, it could be a very smart politiical move...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:47 PM
Jul 2021

..even if it only moves a small number of people to watch it.

If the purpose is to get the facts out to the American people?

What good would it be to only get the facts out to Democrats?

Politics must be removed from the process.

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