AOC Asks Ohio Voters to 'Please Send Me Nina' in Special Election That Could Boost 'Squad

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) asked a crowd in Cleveland Saturday to "send her" Nina Turner in the upcoming special election for Ohio's 11th Congressional District seat.

Ocasio-Cortez, who endorsed Turner in March, joined the former Ohio state senator for a campaign rally just nine days before the Democratic primary. Turner is hoping to win the seat formerly held by Marcia Fudge, who was appointed as the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development by President Joe Biden.

"We need Nina. I need Nina," Ocasio-Cortez said at the rally. "Please send me Nina."

Link to tweet

If Turner wins the special election seat, it is anticipated that she will join "The Squad" in the U.S. House of Representatives. The group consists of Ocasio-Cortez and five other Democratic representatives including Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, Jamaal Bowman of New York and Cori Bush of Missouri.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/aoc-asks-ohio-voters-to-please-send-me-nina-in-special-election-that-could-boost-squad/ar-AAMAqNh

Looks like I'll have to make another donation to Shontel Brown.

[Ocelot II]

1. Just no.

[marble falls]

2. One time I completely disagree with AOC.

[Bettie]

19. I generally agree with her too

but not on this.

Ms. Turner is unpleasant and seems unable to work well with others.

[marble falls]

21. My thought exactly. Turner is not a Republican, but she's like no Democrat I know.

[Nikossitti]

3. Absolutely

NOT. No way.

[hlthe2b]

4. AOC is clueless on this issue.

Adding to one's "group," at the expense of the Democratic caucus is no win.

[Hortensis]

53. Absolutely. But the goal has to be gaining power to oppose the caucus.

Seems likely to me that she's had to accept the risk of disaster, and of gaining a formidable rival for top billing, with the tradeoff being someone who hopefully at least would tend to remain oppositional. Turner'd only bring one vote to a still-tiny faction, of course, if she did, but even more valuably she'd be creating the degree of media attention she always does by criticizing Democrats.

It'll be a huge no-win for them if they couldn't hold together, though. Notably, the Congressional Black Caucus hasn't stayed respectfully out of a race lead by two black females but is sending PAC money to help elect Shontel Brown.

Just realized how fast the election's coming up now!

[Cuthbert Allgood]

72. So Nina won't caucus with the Dems? Source?

[hlthe2b]

73. At least kindly stop citing an comment I did NOT make. Try reading & see if you can

recognize the difference. (hint, since I know you won't, she herself claimed not to be a Democrat and only registered in the race because her "People's Party" could not get on the ballot. Try the Google. )

Or go elsewhere with your very disingenuous use of strawmen arguments.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

75. You said, "at the expense of the Democratic caucus"

What does that phrase mean if not that she won't be part of the Democratic caucus?

[hlthe2b]

77. Oh, I think you can figure it out. Geebus

Take that crap elsewhere. I don't put up with those who pull such BS. I may not agree with you, but I don't think you are THAT clueless and I don't wish to waste time playing games.

[Walleye]

5. I'm suspicious of Nina turner. Jill Stein supporter? Any Russian money involved?

I guess after all the foreign interference in our elections, I think I’m more susceptible to these suspicions

[Budi]

15. Well let's check...oh, What's this big$$ Rohrabacher donor doing donating to...

Charles Dunlop, CEO of Ambry Genetics

Link to tweet

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Man, first it's RU agent Kirill Gorenchenko & Mercury Public Affairs (global lobbyists) $upporting Nina, then it's Buddy Romer's $8million $$$ offer to Cenk to start TYT (as long as Roemer sits on the board), and Now This!

How the heck did TYT, JDems & Nina all get conned into these nefarious affiliations?

It's FORIEGN, it's RW, & it's RICH CORPORATE DONORS.
Whaddya spose any of thoe 3 listed might expect in exchange?

Here, reach right in there & grab yourself a big handful of Foreign, Corporate Cash.
No worries, we won't ask for anything in exchange.



HELLO! SOMEBODY Please ask them about the Dark RW Corporate Donations to these recipients.

Gee, THANKS!!

[Me.]

28. Boy, You Come Up With THe Best Stuff

and isn't an AOC endorsement almost the kiss of death. I was sorry when she endorsed Maya

[brooklynite]

29. Nobody voted against Maya BECAUSE of AOC's endorsement...

She (and the other progressives) just fifn’t get much support.

[Me.]

30. Prove It

[brooklynite]

32. Polling shows no change before and after the endorsement.

If you didn’t like AOC, you weren’t voting for Wiley (or the other progressives in the first place.

[Me.]

33. You Said No One

and that cannot be proven because neither you or anyone else can know that.

[brooklynite]

39. 40 years of political activity (38 in NYC) gives me a measure of confidence.

[Me.]

54. And Perhaps Over Confidence

[brooklynite]

55. Perhaps; feel free to share your own supporting data

[Me.]

56. I Feel It Would Be A Wasted Effort In The Face Of Your 'Confidence'

You have a nice day now

[brooklynite]

57. Just to clarify: I stated an opinion and the reasons for it; you disagreed and provided nothing.

I'll let the audience decide.

[Me.]

58. ...

[Nixie]

61. "other progressives". AOC is a Bernie progressive, and

we know he lost…twice, so it could very well be true that her endorsement helped sink Maya.

Edit: it’s also true that the definition of “progressive” morphs a lot. 😄

[brooklynite]

65. Disagree again...

It's important to understand that there were EIGHT major candidates for Mayor. If you were a Bernie-style Democrat you could vote for Diane Morales. If anything, Wiley's endorsement could have ADDED to her tally by pulling Morales votes over.

The simple fact is that there wasn't a lot of support for the progressive field (32% in aggregate) and Wiley never had a compelling message for voters. If you were a moderate, you were already voting for Adams, Garcia or Yang. There's no reason to imagine that a group of Wiley votes decide to switch BECAUSE of AOC's endorsement.

[Nixie]

66. Yes, I see what you're saying and you're from New York, I'm not. But...

if Maya did not have a compelling message for voters as you say and then finally defined/branded herself as an AOC/Bernie "progressive" later in the campaign stages, then that could be an indicator that her loss could be attributed to her associations with that particular self-promoting "progressive."

As an analogy of sorts, Katie Porter in California recently came out in support of Nina Turner and she is now having very hostile and disruptive townhalls. Is the connection that she is deemed "fringey" now and is attracting other RW fringies to bombard her? It's hard to tell, but the timing suggests that. She won in a previous RW district in Orange County and has been generally well-received until she opened herself up to this type of effort to brand all Democrats as socialist fringe.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-07-11/katie-porter-town-hall-irvine-scuffle

"GOP officials argue that Porter, a darling of progressives, is too liberal for her swing district.

“Katie Porter and Democrats’ socialist agenda has caused everyday goods to cost more, created a border crisis and led to a rise in violent crime,” said Torunn Sinclair, spokeswoman for the National Republican Congressional Committee. “It will cost her reelection.”"

[Me.]

68. That Has THe Ring Of Truth To It

as it has lately been pointed out that Rep. Bowman is actually a liberal and not a "Bernie Progressive"

[George II]

70. I like to say that the root of the word "progressive" is "progress". If one can't demonstrate....

....any progress, he/she is not progressive.

[sheshe2]

90. ...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

67. AOC influence in question after Eric Adams defeats her picks for NYC mayor

I am not only one who think that the NY mayor's race has diminished the value (if there was any value) of an endorsement by AOC

Link to tweet

The victory by Eric Adams, a former police captain, in New York City's Democratic primary for mayor could be an indicator that the congresswoman’s sway – in her own city – is exaggerated. Fox News reached out to Ocasio-Cortez's office about whether the results of the mayoral race could impact any future Senate plans but they did not immediately respond.

In the first round of voting in the primary, Ocasio-Cortez endorsed progressive candidate Maya Wiley and ranked Scott Stringer as her second choice. Neither candidate even advanced to the final round, where Adams faced off against Kathryn Garcia in a close contest.

While Ocasio-Cortez remains wildly popular in her district, the mayoral race indicates that her influence may not extend far beyond that. Her congressional district is located in areas of the Bronx and Queens. According to a map of unofficial results from the first round of voting published by Gothamist, the Bronx overwhelmingly supported Adams, and while Wiley fared better in Queens her support was largely limited to the western part of the borough while the rest was mainly split among Adams, Garcia and Andrew Yang.

It remains to be seen whether the failure to draw voters to her progressive cause in her own boroughs – let alone New York City as a whole – could impact Ocasio-Cortez's decision on where her career could take her next.

We will see what happens in the OH 11. I trust and would value the endorsement of Hillary, Clyburn, the CBC and Marcia Fudge's mon over the endorsement of AOC that then I again I was at the 2016 National Convention and saw Turner's blowup at not being allowed to speak

[Me.]

69. Very Interesting

[George II]

82. "Defund the police" is bad for NYC, and Wiley embraced that more than any other candidate.

[George II]

71. Most people didn't vote "against" candidates, they voted for candidates.

[grantcart]

31. Gee where are the Turner apologists explaining why we should ignore facts

and just support NT because of her uncritical sycophantic over the top adoration of Sanders and the People's Party over Democrats.

[Nixie]

34. Well, well, well...look at that. Corrupt GOP donors

donating to Nina, which has the big payoff for them because she attacks Democrats instead. Oh, where have we seen this before??

Thanks for this info, Budi! 👍

[DFW]

36. I wonder if he got a good exchange rate

...when converting his rubles to dollars........?

[dalton99a]

37. +1

[George II]

52. Why would a RWer like Dunlop contribute a half million to Justice Democrats PAC?

BTW, both Justice Democrats and Sunrise Movement are BOTH Super PACs, accepting (and spending) tons of dark money on this "local" Democratic Primary.

[PatSeg]

81. Oh crap, seriously?

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I wish this was more common knowledge.

[redstatebluegirl]

6. Lord no!

[empedocles]

7. No way

[Scrivener7]

8. .

[DFW]

9. "Send me Nina?"

I know where I'd like to send Nina. AOC can join her any time she likes, and if she's fluent in Russian, she'll have a wonderful time.

[Budi]

16. Yup!

They can meet up with Rohrbacher!!

POST #15
😬

[badhair77]

10. No thank you.

I’d prefer someone who votes for Democrats. Very disappointed in AOC.

[PatSeg]

86. Same here

I don't know if the endorsement is just poor judgment or if it is an indication of her political inexperience and naiveté. I don't see how Turner is good for the Democratic party or Democratic goals. With an increasingly reactionary republican party to deal with, we don't need those kind people in the Democratic party as well. We need all our energy to promote our positive agenda and overcome republican obstruction. Turner would only be a distraction and a great target for the opposition.

I think Ocasio-Cortez is really sharp. I expected better from her.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

11. I trust Rep. James Clyburn, Hillary Clinton and the CBC

[Nixie]

35. Bingo!

Exactly right.

[betsuni]

12. "our democracy should belong to everyday people over big money"

Is she saying Brown/Democrats are corrupted by "big money" and won't care about "everyday people"? The myth that Democrats can't be progressive because they're all bribed? Still?

[Budi]

22. See Post #15 above. Sombody isn't being truthful

[betsuni]

24. Uh oh!

A lot of projection going on, as usual.

[Budi]

25. Oh boy is there ever! The closer factcheckers get to uncovering the reason for all that projection,

...the more she tries to out-yell the truth.

[highplainsdem]

13. Please don't.

[Caliman73]

14. Yep. Like AOC, but disagree with her BIG TIME on this situation.

AOC is young and has that intemperate youth thing going where we don't always play nice with others. She's stuck her foot in her mouth and has been on the wrong side of issues before, but it seems that her desire is to help the little guy.

Why she is backing Turner is lost on me. Turner is not in this for the little guy. She will not foster the kind of relationships that are needed to get things done. She is coming in simply to bad mouth not to help.

Unlike the members of the Squad, Turner would be more like a Synema, than just a sometimes rash, young Democrat.

Turner is toxic and AOC taints herself with this one.

[oasis]

18. Sinema would never compare Joe Biden to a bowl of shit. Nina did

without batting an eye. Where within a decent minded human being does that kind of thoughtless, vile remark come from?

And she wants to be a member of congress?

Oh hell no

[Budi]

26. Don't even put Sinema's name in the same category as Nina.

There is zero comparison.

[PortTack]

17. Nina would be nothing but trouble..she would be the joe manchin of the house!!

[Polybius]

42. Manchin is a moderate conservative

Turner is far-left. A better comparison would be to Cynthia McKinney.

[sprinkleeninow]

20. Don't like this one bit. eom

[womanofthehills]

23. Warrensville Heights Councilman Switches Endorsement from Shontel Brown to Nina Turner, Invites Othe

Warrensville Heights Councilman Walter Stewart has switched his endorsement from Cuyahoga Councilwoman Shontel Brown to former state senator Nina Turner in the OH-11 congressional race.

In a video posted to YouTube by Turner's campaign, Stewart said his change of heart was the result of negative campaign ads and the flow of dark money to Northeast Ohio, which he said was prioritizing corporate interests over the people.


https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2021/07/26/warrensville-heights-councilman-switches-endorsement-from-shontel-brown-to-nina-turner-invites-other-to-do-the-same

[Budi]

27. Haaahaaa.. boy is he cluless. 🙄

Foreign, RW, Dark Money & Turner have a history.
Start with Post #15

Geezus...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

47. Here is a good endorsement

Link to tweet

[Cha]

79. Yeah, a much better Endorsement than

from anyone who supports someone who doesn't now the difference between trump and now Pres Joe Biden..

Sanders Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Rips Biden: Choosing Between Him and Trump is Like Eating From a ‘Bowl of Sh*t’

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213815901

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15662040

Rt TY!

[Cha]

76. The "negativve" ads calling out Turner

are Accurate. It's NT"s own words that make them "negative".

Turner doesn't know the difference between trump and now President Joe Biden.. that should be a big Red Flag.

Sanders Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Rips Biden: Choosing Between Him and Trump is Like Eating From a ‘Bowl of Sh*t’

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213815901

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15662040

[Demsrule86]

38. Sorry AOC...no f'ing way...

I like you AOC, but there are limits to what I can do. Nina is not a Democrat.

[Mz Pip]

40. Nope.

Anyone who refers to Biden as a bowl of shit does not have my support.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

41. At least she doesn't have to use a recorded clap track...

[progressoid]

44. ???

I am unfamiliar with this thing of which you speak.

[Nixie]

60. But using losing BS messages from two lost campaigns

[Demsrule86]

62. Seriously? Nina Turner is running in my district. She is sending advertising saying she

will oppose Biden and the Democrats...hell I am beginning to wonder if she even would caucus with Democrats. I was so incensed the other day, I ripped up her campaign literature and burned it in the fire pit. Even though my husband is now unemployed thanks to parts shortages brought about by
anti-vaxers and asshole Republicans, I got off my butt to campaign for Shontel who's advertising promotes working with her party and getting things done. Nina is not a Democrat and has no loyalty to the party or those she would serve with.

[George II]

74. What the hell is that about? Are you referring to that doctored video on youtube?

[Cha]

80. At least Shontel Brown knows the Difference

between trump and now President Joe Biden!

Sanders Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Rips Biden: Choosing Between Him and Trump is Like Eating From a ‘Bowl of Sh*t’

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213815901

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15662040

[lapucelle]

43. Didn't voters already send Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush?

Maybe the fiery sophomore rep from NY-14 should start with them before taking on a new project.

Jamaal Bowman is a Moderate Liberal



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Cori Bush is a Moderate Liberal



Cori Bush is a Moderate Liberal

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

46. Cool

[betsuni]

48. I thought moderate/centrists were bad.

[Hortensis]

50. Great point. Ocasio-Cortez should be grateful for, and protective

and cultivating of, those she hopes to work with -- and more careful about what she wishes for. Lol, "send ME." To form even a tiny power bloc, they'll have to be able to work together without breaking apart.

Turner's reputation is not exactly for working well with others, and it is for being the one in front of the cameras. Reminds me of Tulsi Gabbard. Shooting stars burning their way through political camps typically leave damage behind, but also relief at least that they're gone.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

45. For this thread

Link to tweet

[betsuni]

49. +1

[Nixie]

59. +1

👍

[Cha]

83. Rt TY!

[George II]

51. I guess I missed something recently. I thought Nancy Pelosi was Speaker and Democratic Leader....

...in the House? "Send me Nina", "I need Nina"? It's all about...............

If there's such a concern about "big money" why were there no comments about the roughly $2M in "dark money" that's been spent on negative ads targeting Shontel Brown?

[lapucelle]

63. "Me"? Really? What happened to...

[Cha]

84. BOOM!

[lapucelle]

87. Mahalo...

[Cha]

88. Mahalo & Aloha to

you!

[betsuni]

91. So that's why the SuperPAC's called Just Us Democrats!

[lapucelle]

92. ...

[lapucelle]

96. Maybe Just Us can run liberals Engel & Lacy Clay to replace moderates Bowman & Bush in 2022.

Eliot Engel is a Hard-Core Liberal



Eliot Engel is a Hard-Core Liberal

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William Lacy Clay is a Hard-Core Liberal



William Lacy Clay is a Hard-Core Liberal

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[betsuni]

97. Excellent idea!

If only reality and actual progress had anything to do with it.

[sheshe2]

93. Bazinga!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

64. Speaker Pelosi and President Biden needs a congressperson who will support the party

Link to tweet

[Cha]

85. Excellent question! Rt TY!

[PatSeg]

89. Good point

A little more humility from someone so new to congress would be more effective. She has only served for a little over two years. I think she believes she is more influential than she actually is.

[2 Meow Momma]

78. Noooooo! nt

[sheshe2]

94. Who is 'We'?

I know who "I" and "Me" are.

"We need Nina. I need Nina," Ocasio-Cortez said at the rally. "Please send me Nina."

No thanks~

[NurseJackie]

95. Nina suggested that when Clyburn endorsed Brown, he's a "meddling outsider"...

... weird, huh?

[Cha]

98. You're kidding! That's all she's got?!!

[NurseJackie]

99. I guess it all depends on WHO the "outsider" is and who they're supporting.

[Cha]

100. Yeah, she should hear herself.