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What if a member of Congress refuses a subpoena from the House? (Original Post) JohnSJ Jul 2021 OP
I'm Sure They'll Get Thrown In The House Jail SoCalDavidS Jul 2021 #1
That is what I am thinking, and gym Jordan or McCarthy will refuse to honor it JohnSJ Jul 2021 #3
Nothing happens presumably. Like the last zillion subpoenas which were ignored. (nt) NoRethugFriends Jul 2021 #2
Might be different this time, since wnylib Jul 2021 #28
I have almost zero confidence in this AG NoRethugFriends Jul 2021 #29
How has Garland fooled you? wnylib Jul 2021 #32
They could be expelled. everyonematters Jul 2021 #4
That requires a 2/3 majority. tritsofme Jul 2021 #5
Ok I am wrong. everyonematters Jul 2021 #6
Sargent at arms? essaynnc Jul 2021 #7
Cell does not exist bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #14
Sgt @arms should give them a spanking RainCaster Jul 2021 #8
Bill Barr is no longer the AG... kentuck Jul 2021 #9
+1 2naSalit Jul 2021 #10
It would be kinda hypocritical to call oneself a lawmaker while scoffing at the legal process. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #11
Sounds like the definition of a repub to me... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #16
Exactly. So they'll do exactly that. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #19
+1 Celerity Jul 2021 #20
I've Completely Given Up On Accountability For The Powerful & Connected SoCalDavidS Jul 2021 #12
Preach it Poiuyt Jul 2021 #15
sternly worded letters all around nt msongs Jul 2021 #13
Yep! blueinredohio Jul 2021 #17
Would you like an actual answer, rather than "we know what will happen" assumptions.? brooklynite Jul 2021 #18
Nobody is going to refuse a ............................. Celerity Jul 2021 #21
Trump is not a Government official. brooklynite Jul 2021 #22
What does that have to do with what I said? Celerity Jul 2021 #23
The "Trump and his supporters ignore subpoenas" argument is based on what they did when in office. brooklynite Jul 2021 #24
Again you miss the point. A new paradigm has been set into place for Republican skulduggery. Celerity Jul 2021 #25
I don't care about a new paradigm; Trump et al no longer have authority to refuse subpoenas. brooklynite Jul 2021 #26
That doesn't mean they will not do so (or try) They've spit on restraints of power & the rule of law Celerity Jul 2021 #27
But they no longer control the means of enforcement; that's the key difference. brooklynite Jul 2021 #30
I hope they drag them in, clapped in irons if need be, if they defy the subpoenas. Celerity Jul 2021 #31

NoRethugFriends

(2,308 posts)
29. I have almost zero confidence in this AG
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:05 AM
Jul 2021

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me a zillion times, shame on me. 🙂

essaynnc

(801 posts)
7. Sargent at arms?
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 11:49 PM
Jul 2021

I heard talk last time that he could go get them and toss them in the little capital holding cell????

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
9. Bill Barr is no longer the AG...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 11:56 PM
Jul 2021

It's time to restore order.

If they refuse a subpoena, hold them in contempt.

If they still refuse to testify, send the FBI to their doors.

No one should be permitted to ignore a subpoena from the US Congress.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
12. I've Completely Given Up On Accountability For The Powerful & Connected
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 12:00 AM
Jul 2021

I really don't allow myself to get sucked in anymore, to the belief that powerful or connected or wealthy people who do bad things, will ever really get in trouble for them.

I'm sure there will be an uproar amongst our side, and networks like CNN & MSNBC will have guests who tell us how horrible it is, and that what they're doing is reprehensible and blah, blah, blah. Then a few days later, they'll be on to the next news story of the day.

There was a time where things like this would rile me up, but now I pretty much expect it.

brooklynite

(94,548 posts)
18. Would you like an actual answer, rather than "we know what will happen" assumptions.?
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 07:33 AM
Jul 2021

As a Member of the House, the Sergeant at Arms can compel attendance of a subpoenaed member. If the member leaves the Capitol and the DC jurisdiction (think Texas Democrats) its impractical to have him returned, but then the House member isn't going to have ability to vote on legislation. Nobody is going to refuse a Committee Subpoena.

Celerity

(43,353 posts)
23. What does that have to do with what I said?
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 08:24 AM
Jul 2021

Trump has set a new virulent, viscous, lawlessness-embracing, norm-breaking (both formal and informal) tenor and tone that the Rethugs now operate under as a general course of shitbaggery.

brooklynite

(94,548 posts)
24. The "Trump and his supporters ignore subpoenas" argument is based on what they did when in office.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 08:36 AM
Jul 2021

They don't have the authority to refuse now,

Celerity

(43,353 posts)
25. Again you miss the point. A new paradigm has been set into place for Republican skulduggery.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 08:41 AM
Jul 2021

It is why I used the term Age of Trumpism, which carries on even with the progenitor of said modus operandi currently out of Executive power on a formal Constitutional basis.

Celerity

(43,353 posts)
27. That doesn't mean they will not do so (or try) They've spit on restraints of power & the rule of law
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 08:54 AM
Jul 2021

for years now.

Celerity

(43,353 posts)
31. I hope they drag them in, clapped in irons if need be, if they defy the subpoenas.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jul 2021

I am not going to hold my breath waiting for that atm, however.

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