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While this hearing is important for history, I suspect very little minds will be changed because of (Original Post) JohnSJ Jul 2021 OP
I've been thinking along the same lines, unfortunately.😔 dewsgirl Jul 2021 #1
I've been thinking along the same lines, unfortunately.😔 dewsgirl Jul 2021 #2
I'm going to remain optimistic. These police make me feel better nolabear Jul 2021 #3
I choose hope. I hope your wrong! RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2021 #4
I hope I am wrong also. 2022 I think will answer that JohnSJ Jul 2021 #10
I hear their testimony and think: how, in a rational world, could this NOT move the needle fishwax Jul 2021 #5
Humans are not rational creatures. Kaleva Jul 2021 #8
More importantly, they do not get the actual information they need to be rational Caliman73 Jul 2021 #18
the fact that FOX is airing it gives me a teeny tiny bit of hope that it'll change a mind or 2 IcyPeas Jul 2021 #6
I believe are wrong Champp Jul 2021 #7
If the responses at FR are an indication, this will have no impact on the hardcore Kaleva Jul 2021 #9
Yes, but the swing voters are the ones who need to be impacted bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #11
Yes, swing voters will be the answer, but only if they hear these hearings JohnSJ Jul 2021 #14
Obviously, no Reptilians will change their minds; that's not the point. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #12
Think I disagree. Minds will be changed, and Enoki33 Jul 2021 #13
Looking over the comments in the local news feed on Facebook gratuitous Jul 2021 #15
As the saying goes: "who are you going to trust, me or your lying eyes?" JohnSJ Jul 2021 #16
Very little minds won't be changed ornotna Jul 2021 #17
hearings have barely started...and yet...they're doomed! stillcool Jul 2021 #19
The OP said nothing about the hearings being "doomed", and YOUR ASSUMPTION, JohnSJ Jul 2021 #21
First day, first hearing stillcool Jul 2021 #23
You have just made my point. Your're mind is made up, regardless what the intent of the OP was JohnSJ Jul 2021 #24
I think very few little minds will be changed. Sogo Jul 2021 #20
I think so too. The key will be independents, as someone mentioned in the thread JohnSJ Jul 2021 #22

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
3. I'm going to remain optimistic. These police make me feel better
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 12:58 PM
Jul 2021

Only seeing atrocities, as vital as that is, makes us forget there are police who are heroes and work for all Americans.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
4. I choose hope. I hope your wrong!
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:00 PM
Jul 2021

people need to wake up. TFG was fucking nightmare and you cant see that NOW you are hopeless.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
5. I hear their testimony and think: how, in a rational world, could this NOT move the needle
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:00 PM
Jul 2021

and then I remember, the likes of TFG and his followers don't operate in a rational world.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
18. More importantly, they do not get the actual information they need to be rational
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:39 PM
Jul 2021

They live in an echo chamber and receive information that concurs with their preconceived notions. Right wing media provides them a distorted and false view of the world.

There were always liberals and conservatives and we have always disagreed for the most part. The difference before the advent of coordinated right wing media is that we had to operate from the same base of facts and information. We argued about what it meant and what needed to be done.

Now, right wingers don't even get the information. They operate on false assumptions made from false information. They have their own set of "facts" which are lies and propaganda. AND... they believe that everything else, like 90% of media that still operate from the same actual set of facts, that 90% or more of media...is ACTUALLY what is false and only they have access to the "truth".

IcyPeas

(21,865 posts)
6. the fact that FOX is airing it gives me a teeny tiny bit of hope that it'll change a mind or 2
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jul 2021

if Fox hasn't been airing some of these videos this may be the first time their viewers will see them.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
7. I believe are wrong
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jul 2021

From these hearings many more people will recognize republican lies, treachery, and treason. This will be a big help in extinguishing the Republican War on America, and on American democracy.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
9. If the responses at FR are an indication, this will have no impact on the hardcore
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:04 PM
Jul 2021

But they being a lost cause anyways, the hope is that this will cause those more in in the middle to shift away from TFG.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
11. Yes, but the swing voters are the ones who need to be impacted
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:13 PM
Jul 2021

The MAGA crowd is lost but they are only a majority of the Republican Party not the American electorate

JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
14. Yes, swing voters will be the answer, but only if they hear these hearings
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jul 2021

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to see it, does it make a sound?


lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Obviously, no Reptilians will change their minds; that's not the point.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:13 PM
Jul 2021

But this does emphasize, for people who have been only vaguely aware of it, that we are in a struggle to the death. Whatever each of us can do, we MUST do, or America dies. I think a significant part of the electorate doesn't yet grasp that, and hopefully the hearings will help.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
13. Think I disagree. Minds will be changed, and
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:14 PM
Jul 2021

the Republican brand will take another nosedive, only this time much more ugly and far reaching. Putting a face, a personality and a call for truth and patriotism to courageous actions will always overcome the acts of betrayal.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. Looking over the comments in the local news feed on Facebook
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jul 2021

There are certainly some die-hard fans of the former guy making very outspoken defenses of the indefensible. They seem unaware (or unwilling to acknowledge) that there are video recordings of the events of the day. These people are lost causes from what I can tell. However, I get the sense that some of the insurrection defenders don't really have their hearts in it, and they may be persuadable in the face of the evidence and the testimony. And if not persuadable, at least they'll shut up in public.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
19. hearings have barely started...and yet...they're doomed!
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 03:09 PM
Jul 2021

jaysus. Oh wait, are you expecting this one hearing to be all there is?

JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
21. The OP said nothing about the hearings being "doomed", and YOUR ASSUMPTION,
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 04:21 PM
Jul 2021

that the OP doesn't realize that the hearings on the insurrection are going to go on for sometime, with the likelihood of subpoenas being issued, only highlights your unfounded projections without any basis.

It was just a speculation for gosh sakes, and if you read some of the responses in the thread, there are various views whether minds will be influenced or not as a result of the hearings






stillcool

(32,626 posts)
23. First day, first hearing
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 06:40 PM
Jul 2021

and no ones mind will be changed. Got it. How dare I look at that estimation as a doomed foregone conclusion. Consider me chastised. What is the difference between just speculation, and unfounded projections?

JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
24. You have just made my point. Your're mind is made up, regardless what the intent of the OP was
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 07:01 PM
Jul 2021

This is why I doubt any minds will be changed from the hearings.

You seem to take everything I post as a personal a affront to you. it isn’t, however, I see no point to pursue further discussion On this topic with you

Have a nice evening



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