MSNBC Maddow: GOP rep eyes plan to kick Cheney, Kinzinger out of the party

[onetexan]

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-rep-eyes-plan-kick-cheney-kinzinger-out-party-n1275194

Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), chair of the right-wing House Freedom Caucus, reportedly told his GOP colleagues during a conference meeting this morning that he's introducing a new resolution targeting Cheney and Kinzinger. As Politico reported, Biggs' proposal "would institute a rules change that would expel any member of the GOP conference if a House Republican accepted a committee assignment from Democrats."

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Liz & Adam Kinzinger showed integrity & stuck to their principles. I hope they will become Dem-leaning independents!

[Champp]

1. Republicans cannot abide truth tellers

This will hurt them big. Honest people see how devoted to lies the republicans have become, and are disgusted with them.

Who is it that is called the Father of Lies ? The Bible has so many condemnatory things to say about lying. The Republicans really ought to read it some time.

[patphil]

36. A modern version of Proverbs 12:22

Republicans 1:6

The Republicans delight in lying lips, but detest people who are trustworthy.

[Texaswitchy]

2. They can be Indy's.

Is this enough for them to leave.

[W_HAMILTON]

3. Is this the """cancel culture""" they are always whining about?

[Rustyeye77]

4. Good... get away from the dark side.

Become indie or dem.

The pukes always turn on their own.

[leftieNanner]

7. They will never be Democrats

Their policies are quite toxic to our side of the aisle. That being said, I'm delighted that they stepped up and support Country over Party.

[agingdem]

11. so if they get expelled where do they "land"?

they could go Independent and caucus with the Dems...that would give us a somewhat bigger majority...they don't have to vote with us all of the time but on the "biggies" like the infrastructure bill, voting rights I'd gladly take their "Aye" vote

[leftieNanner]

17. I actually hope they stay in the Republican Party

And rebuild it to be a governing partner with us.

I know. Pipe dream.

[onetexan]

19. Ditto!

[obamanut2012]

16. They are both RW hardliners

They will never be Dems, or someone like Angus King. They are just not traitors.

[qazplm135]

34. Kitzinger is a little over 50 percent rating

with various conservative groups. He's more of a middle of the road Republicans back when there used to be liberal conservative and middle of the road republicans.

Now, it's Trump republicans and like a half dozen other people.

[orangecrush]

38. This.

[Walleye]

5. Translation:Cheney is an uppity woman who needs to be put in her place'

[AZ8theist]

6. Biggs is my rep

And I CANNOT STAND THIS NAZI FUCKING TRAITOR.
If he commited treason by giving recon tours of the Capital on 1/5, HE NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED AS A TRAITOR.

[sinkingfeeling]

8. Weren't they just bitching about Biden's lack of bipartisanship?

[frazzled]

10. Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

[erronis]

39. Why the 'sarcasm' emoji? Flexibility is the cornerstone for large minds.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your use of "hobgoblin".

Most people with limited processing ability want things to be "just so".

[frazzled]

49. Because

I was responding to the poster’s query (itself somewhat sarcastic) about the inconsistency of republicans threatening to oust two of their own members for serving on a bipartisan committee even as they excoriate Biden on failure to be bipartisan. Are we surprised at their hypocrisy?

My reply is a version of famous statement by Ralph Waldo Emerson:

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.

A hobgoblin is a mischievous spirit. I was offering up this bromide as a hypothetical Republican defense of their inconsistent viewpoint on bipartisanship. Hence the sarcasm emoji. They are both inconsistent and have little minds. It can happen.

[erronis]

50. Thank you so much for your great explanation. I should have read more deeply/better.

I love our little board (DU) with so many viewpoints and mainly well-educated commentators (self excluded.)

[ProfessorGAC]

9. They Were VOTED In By Landslide Margins

Expelling them doesn't change that they're duly elected officials.
This seems to increase the odds they'd vote WITH democrats.
Of course, Biggs doesn't think things through. He's incapable of that.

[Fullduplexxx]

12. Their plan.... they kick out those 2 then the gop can say there are no republicans

On the committee ... I
The committee is not bi-partisan

[onetexan]

21. It is from the perspective Liz & Adam are moderate conservatives. The RW cult which the

GOP have become they are not. If they do this to themselves there will either be a new conservative party created or there w be a Independents. Either way the GOP is self-destructing. This does not look good for them.

[Kali]

30. cheney is no moderate

not sure about Kinzinger, but cheney is still a horrible right wing asshole. she may be doing the honorable thing here and I give her that, but she is no friend on policy.

[oldsoftie]

52. Thats exactly what they want. And why Mccarthy took the others off.

Cant have a committee with 5-6 GOP members and say its "rigged"!

[davsand]

13. That's a Republican party decision.

I am LMAO at the entire PR mess the GOP finds itelf in--in spite of how high the stakes are--but I have to say it's entirely a GOP thing. Seems like every day the water they are swimming in gets deeper. I keep coming back to the Lincoln Project attitude of "Fuck around and find out."

Neither of the two will ever be a Dem or even left leaning. What they do offer potential for, however, is a path back to sanity for the GOP membership that wants a return to the days of to a (mostly) sane party. While I disagree wtih them both on any number of isues, i do feel they are trying to do the right thing here.



Laura

[UCmeNdc]

14. Fascism is within the GOP.

[Mad_Machine76]

15. Please proceed

I don’t think it will have the effect on them that they think it will have.

[Gregory Peccary]

18. I guess the "freedom caucus" does not allow the freedom to disagree

[monkeyman1]

37. fuck the freedumb carcass!!!

[Gregory Peccary]

44. Ya, the freedom carcass is dead to me!

[Jilly_in_VA]

20. Does Smallie Biggs

get to do that all by his little self? What a self-important asshole! Oh, wait, assholes serve a useful function.....

[erronis]

41. Yup. I use mine almost every day. I'll be happy to have an "exchange" with Biggs intake orifice...

[Progressive Jones]

22. The more chaos in the Gang Of Parasites, the better. nt

Edited to correct a typing error.

[lark]

23. No, no, no, Cheney will be a Democrat - never.

She is a Cheney after all. She believes in no taxes for the rich and to stick it to the working class, she doesn't support abortion or even the right to it, she doesn't want to increase the minimum wage.

She is a right winger, like the old right wingers. She, however, believes in America and isn't a fascist like the drumpf led repugs these days. She's an anachronism.

[bucolic_frolic]

24. If those are the two we have, so be it

The traitors don't realize they are isolating and identifying themselves. Permanently.

[Probatim]

25. Does anyone actually think they'd vote any differently if they were Independents?

Cheney voted more often for TFG than her replacement did. Kinzinger is a saner version of republicans - and is likely the smooth talking fascist we've been worried about for months.

Yes, it's great they are taking this stand, but it's their long game that is troubling me.

[Bev54]

26. Cheney will never be a left leaning, that is a pipe dream.

I disagree with her politics at every turn but I support her right to have her positions, just hoping they do not get implemented. The dems must go hard at all the republican congressional sheep that are supporting their leadership instead of doing what is right. They have no place in the congressional halls voting on any legislation, if they cannot even think for themselves.

[iluvtennis]

27. The constituents of Chaney and Kinzinger elected them to represent them, and the rethugs

now want to overturn the will of the people. This is asinine and UNACCEPTABLE.

[YoshidaYui]

28. They are no longer a Political party

They represent insurrectionists.They want to overthrow the government they are a danger.

[ffr]

31. +1

Their true colors are shining through and they are not red,white, and blue!

[crickets]

48. 👆 This. nt

[ffr]

29. Wah! Wah! Go the snowflakes!

[COL Mustard]

32. It's Not The Freedom Caucus

It's the Fascist Caucus
Or the Freedumb Caucus
Or the Caucasian Caucus
Or the Racist Caucus


I could go on and on, but I'll let someone else add to it as appropriate.

[Tanuki]

33. Is that what they call "cancel culture"?

[DownriverDem]

35. No surprise for them

They are doing what is right. They know they have lost reelection in Nov 2022 too.

[totodeinhere]

42. I doubt it they know that.

The GOP caucus has high hopes of getting the majority in 2022. Of course if they expel two members that would make it that much harder to pull it off.

[totodeinhere]

40. Go ahead and expel them. Without their organizing votes that's two more seats that the

GOP would have to pick up to take control of the House making it easier for the Dems to keep control.

[onetexan]

43. +1 -K&R

[Mr. Evil]

45. Republicans should finally change their name to TP.

No, not Toilet Paper although that would also be appropriate but, they should now be known as the Toddler Party.

[GoCubsGo]

46. So, he wants to reduce the size of his own caucus, and make them an even bigger minority?

Please proceed, Dumbfuck.

[TNNurse]

47. Yes, Nazis must obey and salute.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

51. You're not allowed in our tree fort anymore- Andy Biggs