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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:07 PM Jul 2021

Straight up truth about Simone Biles and those who have the nerve to criticize her




Simone Biles won nationals w/broken toes in both feet, worlds w/a kidney stone, and has carried the burden of being a face of sexual assault survivors as a national institution failed to support them

Half of y'all yelling about "toughness" can't handle wearing a mask in Wegman's
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Straight up truth about Simone Biles and those who have the nerve to criticize her (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jul 2021 OP
A perfect 10! calimary Jul 2021 #1
K & R . . . Lovie777 Jul 2021 #2
I think it was a selfless decision. She didn't want to bring down the team score Walleye Jul 2021 #3
Exactly. She knew she wasn't going to help Blue_playwright Jul 2021 #37
Classy Walleye Jul 2021 #38
My Fox loving relative said he heard she was tired of spooky3 Jul 2021 #4
Here's The Truth: "Simone Biles penalized for having skills other gymnasts can't pull off" Budi Jul 2021 #5
DING DING DING! Biles and Budi, you're our grand prize winners! Rocknation Jul 2021 #25
Yes indeed. There's some ratfking showing its ugly side right there. Budi Jul 2021 #26
She is terrific. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #6
Yes. A few days ago she mentioned that it was starting to become a little harder for her to do. FuzzyRabbit Jul 2021 #39
RWers are crashing into each other, demolition-derby style, in the effort to attack bullwinkle428 Jul 2021 #7
And yet they are gleefully dunking on other US teams - Ocelot II Jul 2021 #9
They're mad because the their team is under sanctions. roamer65 Jul 2021 #14
Do What You Gotta Do Simone DanieRains Jul 2021 #8
Simone is the greatest ever. roamer65 Jul 2021 #10
God help anyone who criticizes this national hero. She has nothing to prove. Pepsidog Jul 2021 #11
Yep! ScottFrom1960 Jul 2021 #12
And none of them have ever gotten near qualifying for the Olympics. TNNurse Jul 2021 #13
Most were picked last for dodgeball... Probatim Jul 2021 #40
I remeber this sheshe2 Jul 2021 #15
THIS Right here is so damned disturbing. Budi Jul 2021 #28
can't rec this enough....perfect.... bahboo Jul 2021 #16
It sounds like she's facing some unwanted pressure Mosby Jul 2021 #17
She owes nothing to anybody, but that doesn't stop them from making demands. K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #18
K&R MustLoveBeagles Jul 2021 #19
If she says there's a problem... lame54 Jul 2021 #20
... sheshe2 Jul 2021 #21
Simone Biles could retire today and still be the best. crickets Jul 2021 #22
Biles is a national treasure who has already given us so much dlk Jul 2021 #23
Thanks for this excellent post, SS. yonder Jul 2021 #24
This 10000000000000000000000 times demtenjeep Jul 2021 #27
Shame on those that criticize this incredible individual who is NoMoreRepugs Jul 2021 #29
Word StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #30
I love this!!! Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #31
She earned the right to do what's in her own best interest StClone Jul 2021 #32
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2021 #33
This was posted sometime ago... here. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #34
Amazing (and disturbing) article - thanks for linking to it. nt crickets Jul 2021 #41
You are welcome, crickets. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #42
If she's a "quitter", why did she stick around. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2021 #35
Who is criticizing her? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #36
Looked it up myself - Answer: Conservatives, talk show people. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #43
it's nobody's business but hers Dukkha Jul 2021 #44
simone biles is a incredible talent and her pulling out of the olympics does dawn5651 Jul 2021 #45
Oh please. Athletes get criticism. Loki Liesmith Jul 2021 #46
Wow! mcar Jul 2021 #51
Who said she's not "taking the criticism"? StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #52
The a***holes on fux nooze and their partners in fascists propaganda are beyond outrageous msfiddlestix Jul 2021 #47
Here's another way to put it, using a saying from a first century rabbi (emphasis mine) Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #48
Ms Biles health, mental and physical, is much more important than some bauble... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #49
Can I rec this a dozen times? mcar Jul 2021 #50
K&R spanone Jul 2021 #53
Best response I ever saw. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2021 #54
yup, those gutless little cry babies would run for the hills. she's brilliant! bluboid Jul 2021 #55
Tough as nails The Jungle 1 Jul 2021 #56

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
37. Exactly. She knew she wasn't going to help
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 12:00 AM
Jul 2021

So she did the adult thing and pulled herself out. Smart kid, smart athlete.

spooky3

(34,451 posts)
4. My Fox loving relative said he heard she was tired of
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:15 PM
Jul 2021

“Carrying” the others. I tried to set him straight. Not positive that that was the Fox spin, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. Here's The Truth: "Simone Biles penalized for having skills other gymnasts can't pull off"
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:17 PM
Jul 2021
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3866255002

Simone Biles penalized for having skills other gymnasts can't pull off

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Opinion: Simone Biles penalized for having skills other gymnasts can't pull off
NANCY ARMOUR | USA TODAY | 7:28 am EDT October 7, 2019


SportsPulse: Simone Biles is the greatest gymnast her sport has ever seen and over the weekend she further cemented herself alone at the top.

STUTTGART, Germany — Simone Biles is the last person international gymnastics officials should be using to try and make a point.

In an effort to deter other gymnasts from trying skills they are not physically capable of doing, the International Gymnastics Federation watered down the value of a new element Biles plans to do at the world championships. That’s right.
Penalize the reigning world and Olympic champion, who is almost cautious when it comes to adding difficulty, for the potential recklessness of others.


Am I in a league of my own? Yes. But that doesn’t mean you can’t credit me for what I’m doing,” Biles told NBC after learning of the decision this week by the women’s technical committee.

"Gymnastics needs to keep up with Simone Biles, not the other way around"

Rocknation

(44,576 posts)
25. DING DING DING! Biles and Budi, you're our grand prize winners!
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 10:23 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Wed Jul 28, 2021, 11:55 AM - Edit history (7)

"Am I in a league of my own? Yes. But that doesn’t mean you can’t credit me for what I’m doing,” Biles told NBC after learning of the decision this week by the women’s technical committee."

Her "medical" issue has more to do with International Gymnastics Federation (and perhaps the Japanese branch of the International Olympic Committee) being "sick" of her being that much better (and darker skinned?) than the others. If she withdrew due to a physical problem, why keep it a secret? I think, as Tonya Harding claimed, Biles was threatened with the judges shaving off enough of the entire US team's scores to knock them off the podium altogether.

P.S. Maybe the "pressure" that Naomi Osaka cites as the cause of her Olympic loss had to do with her not being Japanese "enough." And remember Surya Bonaly's back flips being banned because no one else could do them? Hell, I can remember basketball slam dunking being banned until enough white guys could do it!


Rocknation
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
26. Yes indeed. There's some ratfking showing its ugly side right there.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 10:29 PM
Jul 2021



Biles has been in this business all her years & knows how they play that competitve game better than all of us viewers.

She is beyond that, anymore

Love our brightest Star, Ms Simone Biles


Ocelot II

(115,686 posts)
6. She is terrific.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:18 PM
Jul 2021

The buttholes who are criticizing her could never have done what she has done. She's 24, which is actually a bit old for a gymnast, so she's been beating up her body for a long time, longer than her teammates. And at the same time she's also been carrying the burden and expectations of her own incredible talent. Her critics can just FOAD.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
39. Yes. A few days ago she mentioned that it was starting to become a little harder for her to do.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 12:17 AM
Jul 2021

And then on her last vault she experienced what a gymnast described as losing her place in the air, which caused her to miss the landing. This is common for gymnasts to experience. Recovery (mental) usually takes a day or so.

But the reason the Trumpers are criticizing her has nothing to do with her performance. They are criticizing her because she broke their most important rule: she is not a fair-complexioned, blue-eyed blond.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
7. RWers are crashing into each other, demolition-derby style, in the effort to attack
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:23 PM
Jul 2021

her for being "weak", "failing to support her team-mates", etc.

Miserable pieces of shit...all of them.

Ocelot II

(115,686 posts)
9. And yet they are gleefully dunking on other US teams -
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:38 PM
Jul 2021

expressing their glee that the US women's soccer team was defeated by Sweden, and equally joyful about the men's basketball team's loss - in both cases because said teams were, you know, "woke." And Gwen Berry, too. https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/06/10552057/gwen-berry-flag-protest-national-anthem-conservative-reaction

They're just not gonna root, root, root for the home team.

ScottFrom1960

(10 posts)
12. Yep!
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:44 PM
Jul 2021

Ab-So-Freakin-Lutely! She's badass to the Nth degree. It's a real shame that she got injured doing something that (probably) had never even been tried before.

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
15. I remeber this
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:46 PM
Jul 2021
Simone Biles hit back at trolls who commented on her hair

Nikki Brown , StyleCaster Dec 13, 2017, 1:23 PM

snip

And because the Internet loves to pay unnecessary attention to negative comments, this one in particular garnered tens of thousands of retweets, even after Biles jokingly said that she "just came from a 4 hour practice w/my hair in a bun, excuse my hair." The point here is that she shouldn't have to "excuse" her hair in the first place, especially when she just got done with jumping up and down for hours.

Nonetheless, she offered a classy clapback to anyone who has something to say about her appearance: "I have 1 question to everyone commenting about my hair when I genuinely look happy in the photo. Do you look perfect ALL the time? Everything in perfect order?" To that we offer a standing ovation.

As Refinery29 pointed out, this is eerily familiar to the same criticism Gabby Douglas experienced at the 2012 and 2016 Olympics when she decided to wear her hair in a messy bun while competing. "What's wrong with my hair? I'm like, I just made history and people are focused on my hair? It can be bald or short; it doesn't matter about [my] hair," she told the Associated Press. "Nothing is going to change. I'm going to wear my hair like this during beam and bar finals. You might as well stop talking about it."

The policing of black hair has long been rooted in this idea that textured hair is somehow "inappropriate," "unprofessional" or unclean. So much so, that both white people and women of color have perpetuated this idea for generations, making it difficult to move past, even in a time as "progressive" as the New Millennium. Clearly, we've got a long way to go. Keep doing you, Simone; you and your hair are amazing!

https://www.businessinsider.com/simone-biles-responds-trolls-hair-comments-2017-12

The Gabbie's and Simone's of this world are an inspiration to young black women everywhere.




This:
Simone taking care of the baby goat, she knows she didn’t receive the same treatment, but she’s the game changer for the next Gen. That’s Simone Biles greatness, another perfect 10 in life’s lessons.
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
28. THIS Right here is so damned disturbing.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 10:33 PM
Jul 2021

Thanks for posting all the hits at her & our proud & best Black athletes from the past.

It has to be remembered.

Mosby

(16,310 posts)
17. It sounds like she's facing some unwanted pressure
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:59 PM
Jul 2021
"This Olympic Games, I wanted it to be for myself but I came in and I felt like I was still doing it for other people. It hurts my heart that doing what I love has been kind of taken away from me to please other people.”


Who are these other people she referred to?





crickets

(25,976 posts)
22. Simone Biles could retire today and still be the best.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 10:11 PM
Jul 2021

She owes no one any explanation or apology. Whether she decides to compete in later events or not, I wish her every bit of fulfillment and happiness she deserves, and she deserves a bunch. 💖

dlk

(11,566 posts)
23. Biles is a national treasure who has already given us so much
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 10:12 PM
Jul 2021

Why would anyone resent her for putting her mental health and physical safety first? She deserves better.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
27. This 10000000000000000000000 times
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 10:30 PM
Jul 2021

and if she were sulking she never would have stayed to cheer them on

NoMoreRepugs

(9,423 posts)
29. Shame on those that criticize this incredible individual who is
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 10:43 PM
Jul 2021

also an unbelievable athlete. I guarantee they are neither.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
30. Word
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jul 2021
Simone Biles was sexually abused by the coach entrusted with her care and responded by opening her own gym to vulnerable gymnasts and mentoring younger girls through possibly the most physically, mentally, and emotionally demanding competitive sport. She is so damned good at her sport that the Olympic Committee literally changed the scoring rules specifically for Biles so that other, lesser athletes wouldn't hurt themselves trying to compete with her. She's won 6 Olympic medals (including 4 golds) and she's maintained her dominance for years in a notoriously punishing sport. And today, she set aside her dreams and desires to do the right thing for her teammates and country by forfeiting her chance at another medal so her team could still stand a chance.

And I see a lot of dudes, (and they're ALL dudes) who look like they break a sweat opening a bag of Doritos and who almost certainly got cut from their JV second string football team and haven't run a mile since, mocking Biles for being "weak". These same dudes who exist in a state of emotionally stunted dipshittery and who haven't challenged themselves to do anything harder than play 8 straight hours of Call of Duty mock her for "cracking under pressure". It's a good thing Biles is too good of a person to track down shitty social media commenters and challenge them to a fight, because she could crack their spines with her calves and still do a full floor routine afterwards.


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10106752084380749&id=17803073

StClone

(11,683 posts)
32. She earned the right to do what's in her own best interest
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 11:01 PM
Jul 2021

She has given of herself out of love of sport and her country. Her's is a legacy beyond the slings and arrows of her spleenful detractors. Thank you Simone for your deep contributions to America.

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
34. This was posted sometime ago... here.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 11:16 PM
Jul 2021

It is a long article and I can only post a few paragraphs that will not complete the thought.

Posted here. https://www.democraticunderground.com/120484131

Simone Biles Made Gymnastics History. Now a Different Kind of History Is Repeating Itself.

Biles recently became the first woman ever to attempt the Yurchenko double pike in competition. By nailing the remarkably difficult maneuver, she not only expanded the boundaries of her sport—she ignited a controversy that feels all too familiar.

snip

For as much as the maneuver itself sparked a frenzy, the optics of the judges’ decision ignited a storm. Biles—by virtually any measure the greatest gymnast in history, and a Black woman in a sport with the racial variance of a tall glass of milk—entered her first competition in more than 18 months, landed the most impressive and difficult move imaginable, and was given a score that not-so-subtly told her not to do it again.

snip

The thing to remember about American beliefs is they’re never really new. There have been myths, for instance, as to whose claims to humanity are rightful and whose are not for as long as white people have been on this continent. John Lining, a colonial physician who lived in South Carolina, is cited by historians as an early peddler of the idea that there are innate physiological distinctions between people of different races. In Lining’s most famous text, which included his notes on Charleston’s 1748 yellow fever outbreak, he wrote, “There is something very singular in the constitution of the Negroes, which renders them not liable to this fever.” The implication in Lining’s message spread like wildfire.

Throughout 18th- and 19th-century slavocracy, similar theories were extolled as a means to justify bondage and its attendant violence. Myths of unlimited pain tolerance, unique muscle groupings, and increased physical prowess were seared onto Blackness, with those fictions propagated as fact. There is no way to understand modern perceptions of the human body—its limits and abilities, depths and promise—without first grappling with the legacy and outgrowth of these doctrines, both inside and outside of the United States.

And there is no way of separating athletics from this culture. For as much as the history of sports has been defined by advancements in athletic greatness, it is equally defined by an inherent distrust of Black physicality; a subtle but unshakable fear of the types of unbridled dominance that expand the confines of a given game or event.

So much more here. https://www.theringer.com/2021/5/28/22458616/simone-biles-yurchenko-double-pike-us-classic-scoring

I truly hope she finds the peace she seeks. Her body/mind, herself....HER CHOICE.


DinahMoeHum

(21,786 posts)
35. If she's a "quitter", why did she stick around. . .
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 11:35 PM
Jul 2021

. . .to encourage her teammates to do their best?

A real quitter would have just pouted and left the building while refusing to talk to anyone.

That the team managed to overcome this incident and win the silver medal is an accomplishment in itself.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
44. it's nobody's business but hers
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 05:46 AM
Jul 2021

We put far too much pressure on young athletes. Foregoing the spirit of competition for the toxic attitude that winning is all that matters.

dawn5651

(603 posts)
45. simone biles is a incredible talent and her pulling out of the olympics does
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:11 AM
Jul 2021

nothing to take that away from her. in fact it makes those who are hurling abuse at her for not competing look like asshole.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
52. Who said she's not "taking the criticism"?
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 11:51 AM
Jul 2021

In fact, she's taking it infinitely better than the people who are dishing it out are taking being criticized for their snowflakey hypocrisy. (Or is that hypocritical snowflakiness?)

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
47. The a***holes on fux nooze and their partners in fascists propaganda are beyond outrageous
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:18 AM
Jul 2021

it needs to be condemned and all of their mouthpieces to boot.

Simone Biles is an amazing and brilliant human being. eff those sniveling cretins who can't hold a candle to her accomplishments.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,966 posts)
48. Here's another way to put it, using a saying from a first century rabbi (emphasis mine)
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 11:14 AM
Jul 2021

"If I am not for myself, who is for me?

If I am only for myself, who am I?"

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