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Adam Kinzinger is looking better and better every day: (Original Post) George II Jul 2021 OP
I think I'm falling in love Walleye Jul 2021 #1
He still insists he is a republican. madaboutharry Jul 2021 #2
He is, a hardliner obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #5
Two things can be true at the same time. madaboutharry Jul 2021 #7
+1 Being conservative doesn't make one a bad person. I used to say years ago, before the toxicity.. George II Jul 2021 #9
He is anti LGBT rights, anti-abortion rights obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #10
You can't compartamentalize with these people Bucky Jul 2021 #11
investigating the "security posture" TxGuitar Jul 2021 #3
It was all in a letter posted in response to this tweet. I posted it as a separate OP but here it is George II Jul 2021 #4
Contrast to this UpInArms Jul 2021 #8
That Is A Pretty Damning Document, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2021 #14
Yes it it. It's the "smoking gun" (or as trump would say "smocking gun") that blows up the claim.... George II Jul 2021 #15
Not so much as a helmet for protection. Ligyron Jul 2021 #21
Should He Run For The Senate, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2021 #6
Only if he loses. murielm99 Jul 2021 #12
Cheney/Kinsinger 2024. Chipper Chat Jul 2021 #13
Thanks for doing your job, keep it up RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2021 #16
Kinzinger cares about complying with Constitution & maintaining our democracy. True patriot. n/t iluvtennis Jul 2021 #17
I can respect this congressman Jerry2144 Jul 2021 #18
Agree. To me, he's like John McCain. wnylib Jul 2021 #19
Apt comparison JHB Jul 2021 #20
Great catch! Duppers Jul 2021 #23
In my view, he's from Illinois bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #22

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
2. He still insists he is a republican.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:34 AM
Jul 2021

I’m waiting for the epiphany when he realizes that the Republican Party no longer exists.

Kinzinger is a good man. I wish him well on the rocky road he is traveling.

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
7. Two things can be true at the same time.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:42 AM
Jul 2021

He is very conservative, a political world view I will never understand. But I think one can still be a decent person and a conservative at the same time. He is not a hateful person.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. +1 Being conservative doesn't make one a bad person. I used to say years ago, before the toxicity..
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 11:02 AM
Jul 2021

...of the "two sides", that Democrats and republicans really want the same result, but they way they want to achieve that is different.

Democrats want to get there by reinforcing the good in people.
republicans want to get there by suppressing the bad in people.

But again, that was years ago, long before the polarized society we have today.

obamanut2012

(26,072 posts)
10. He is anti LGBT rights, anti-abortion rights
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 11:02 AM
Jul 2021

Voted to repeal the ACA, and refused to impeach Trump the first time, along with lots of other RWNJ stuff.

He is not a traitor, and I respect him for that. But, a decent person cannot be against basic human and civil rights. Hopefully, he may evolve some.

Bucky

(54,005 posts)
11. You can't compartamentalize with these people
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 11:06 AM
Jul 2021

He's an honorable man and he supports the principles of democracy. We can share a country with him. You wouldn't like him running the House Ways and Means Committee. Not that he'll ever have that chance now.

TxGuitar

(4,190 posts)
3. investigating the "security posture"
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:36 AM
Jul 2021

must make some Rs nervous, as in who ordered the lighter security, who declined to send the Guard in, etc. They're gonna wish they didn't go down that path.

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. It was all in a letter posted in response to this tweet. I posted it as a separate OP but here it is
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:38 AM
Jul 2021

Acting Secretary of Defense, probably on orders from trump himself, is the culpable individual:

UpInArms

(51,283 posts)
8. Contrast to this
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:58 AM
Jul 2021


Where there are no flagpoles or other things that can be weaponizing … no flak jackets, no threatening garb …

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
14. That Is A Pretty Damning Document, Sir
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 12:47 PM
Jul 2021

The man needs to account for it under oath.

There is no room for doubt the Trump administration stripped the Capitol of its usual defenses against unruly crowds, and did so while assembling a mob of violent insurrectionists to assault the tallying of electoral votes.

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Yes it it. It's the "smoking gun" (or as trump would say "smocking gun") that blows up the claim....
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 12:57 PM
Jul 2021

...that it was Nancy Pelosi's fault that security around the Capitol wasn't prepared.

I'm sure the committee is going to get around to the fact that help from the National Guard was requested several times DURING the riot and was refused.

Adam Schiff and Jamie Raskin are on that committee. I'm sure their staffs are putting together a comprehensive list of witnesses and a rock solid line of interrogation.

If it wasn't such a serious situation this could be fun to watch. But heads are going to roll and trump people are going to jail.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
6. Should He Run For The Senate, Sir
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:40 AM
Jul 2021

It will remain my duty to vote against him, and I will, but I doubt I would enjoy it much. Voting against Rauner and Oberweis was great fun, and even voting against Kirk was a pleasure.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
16. Thanks for doing your job, keep it up
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jul 2021

nothing more nothing less.

It shouldn't take this much courage to tell the truth.

wnylib

(21,449 posts)
19. Agree. To me, he's like John McCain.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jul 2021

I disagreed with McCain's political views, but respected his integrity.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
22. In my view, he's from Illinois
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jul 2021

and carrying the Lincoln roots of the Republican Party.

Smart people - historians, political scientists, reasonable old time Republicans - know the path the GOP is on has reached maximum insanity. It's not sustainable, not even if fascism succeeds. So in my view a rebirth of the GOP is in the incubator. They may not assume power for 15 or 20 years. But they will endure.

I sure disagree with most of Liz Cheney's policy views, especially on the environment. But she is a realist. She knows what's going on.

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