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jalan48

(13,833 posts)
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 01:39 PM Jul 2021

Turner, Brown ads get nasty: Darcy cartoon

In the middle of the article is this interesting bit of information on Brown.


Shontel Brown is now the subject of a Ohio Ethics Commission review for contract steering. As a Cuyahoga County councilwoman, Brown voted for million dollar contracts awarded to companies her boyfriend and campaign donors are connected with.

It is a felony under Ohio law for a public official “to secure authorization of any public contract in which the public official, a member of the public official’s family, or any of the public official’s business associates has an interest.”

The case was referred to the Ethics Commission for review by the State Auditors office and Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost.



https://www.cleveland.com/darcy/2021/07/turner-brown-ads-get-nasty-darcy-cartoon.html

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Turner, Brown ads get nasty: Darcy cartoon (Original Post) jalan48 Jul 2021 OP
The Trump crime family has made these kind of laws moot. nt joetheman Jul 2021 #1
No. They work when applied, and they're still useful for smearing candidates. Hortensis Jul 2021 #8
I have a feeling the spotlight will find a lot when aimed at Nina Turner, as well... hlthe2b Jul 2021 #2
There is much that people do not talk about for obvious reasons. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #14
This article is kind of slanted, isn't it? padah513 Jul 2021 #3
It's from the Cleveland Plain Dealer-Cleveland's largest newspaper. I don't think slant is why jalan48 Jul 2021 #4
Shontel Brown is not being investigated. The Intercept's allegations are being reviewed. lapucelle Jul 2021 #52
Certainly is! See Post #5 Budi Jul 2021 #7
What a horseshit article. Budi Jul 2021 #5
Looks like this ethics investigation is breaking news today. Also, The Cleveland Plain Dealer jalan48 Jul 2021 #6
THE ELECTION IS AUGUST 3. Next week. If it were a hit job Hortensis Jul 2021 #9
The article was posted today with the info about the ethics investigation. There's also a Newsweek jalan48 Jul 2021 #10
At just the right time, then, SOP for "the allegation is the crime." Hortensis Jul 2021 #12
The State Ethics Commission chose to investigate. Are you suggesting the jalan48 Jul 2021 #13
Well, they're also investigating Turner's puzzling flow of unlimited Dark Money Budi Jul 2021 #17
Do you have a link about the State of Ohio investigating Turner? jalan48 Jul 2021 #19
Not the State but the FEC. Although this kind of self dealing may/may not be legal it reeks of... Budi Jul 2021 #25
Jalan, when an allegation/ethical complaint is filed, these boards have Hortensis Jul 2021 #26
Absolutely. jalan48 Jul 2021 #27
Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost is a Republican. Of course he'd play the smear game against a Dem. Budi Jul 2021 #28
LOL-it's a right wing conspiracy! Or was that left wing? It's all so confusing. jalan48 Jul 2021 #29
Not when ya follow the money. Its actually rather clear. Budi Jul 2021 #30
Well, right now it looks like the Ethics Commission is following Shontel's money. jalan48 Jul 2021 #31
Not a problem with that. Perhaps CPD should print the disclaimer that Bragman had to, & give... Budi Jul 2021 #36
Actually what they're doing is reviewing The Intercept's concerns after SIU declined to investigate. lapucelle Jul 2021 #46
Either way, this looks like some janky shit uponit7771 Jul 2021 #38
There isn't "also a Newsweek article", the cleveland.com article reference to this fake.... George II Jul 2021 #34
fuckin WOW !! They're scared shitless of Brown then uponit7771 Jul 2021 #40
The Newsweek article is by Walter Bragman & the headline says "faces a POTENTIAL ethics charge". lapucelle Jul 2021 #44
Cleveland Plain Dealer literally endorsed Turner. Expect nothing else but this from them. Budi Jul 2021 #15
Yes, it's the newspaper's fault for reporting the ethics investigation. How dare they! jalan48 Jul 2021 #16
Bias. Its a sensatuonalist story omitting the full truth. Budi Jul 2021 #18
You should contact the State of Ohio Ethics Commission with your information. jalan48 Jul 2021 #21
lol Celerity Jul 2021 #37
Why would anybody contact a state ethics board about a confused cartoonist misreporting facts lapucelle Jul 2021 #54
The newspaper isn't reporting that there's an ethics probe. A cartoonist lapucelle Jul 2021 #47
The Plain Dealer isn't reporting that there's an ethics investigation. An editorial cartoonist lapucelle Jul 2021 #45
Far right propagandist? Wut? progressoid Jul 2021 #11
Bragman is full on antiDemocratic & like his Red Rose cosplayers, writes his own sensational hits... Budi Jul 2021 #22
How does that make him far right? progressoid Jul 2021 #23
That in itself doesn't "make him far right", it's just a demonstration of fact. George II Jul 2021 #35
Oh Boo Freaking Hoo. Going "negative" on Turner is Cha Jul 2021 #20
No shit! NINA's own words calling Biden a 'Bowl of SHIT' & CLYBURN 'STUPID', is all hers. Budi Jul 2021 #24
This was a political "dirty trick" that is being twisted out of proportion by.... George II Jul 2021 #32
This is an opinion piece by cartoonist Jeff Darcy. He makes several evidence-free assertions. OilemFirchen Jul 2021 #33
.... George II Jul 2021 #39
CPD should print the disclaimer that Bragman had to, along with the Cartoon Newz Budi Jul 2021 #41
So the Ohio State Ethics Commission isn't investigating Shontel? jalan48 Jul 2021 #42
No, the Ohio State Ethics Commission is not investigating Shontel Brown. lapucelle Jul 2021 #48
But..but..but.. it's ALL over the inernet!! Budi Jul 2021 #50
It's disgusting to see this level of disinformation being promulgated against a Democrat. lapucelle Jul 2021 #51
I think all buyers of that particular package are quite aware. DFW Jul 2021 #53
Tribal us vs them. Win at all cost like a sporting event mentality Budi Jul 2021 #55
I don't even think there is much argument over the real beneficiary of a divided America DFW Jul 2021 #56
Indeed. Budi Jul 2021 #57
Mahalo, Oilem, for the Much NEEDED Reality Check.. Cha Jul 2021 #43
Mahalo Cha. The Ohio Ethics Commission is not investigating Shontel Brown. lapucelle Jul 2021 #49

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. No. They work when applied, and they're still useful for smearing candidates.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jul 2021

These days where public officials and candidates are concerned, the allegation is the crime. What's an inappropriate connection? Our son-in-law's family owns a family bank in Arkansas and active in other businesses, and in various ways are likley to be connected with almost anyone doing anything in that state.

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
4. It's from the Cleveland Plain Dealer-Cleveland's largest newspaper. I don't think slant is why
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jul 2021

Brown is being investigated by the Ohio State Ethics Commission however.
It is interesting also that Brown began running negative ads when she was way behind in the polls last spring.

"Shontel Brown falsely claimed not to be directly running any negative attack ads against Turner in interviews WKYC News Anchor Russ Mitchell did with Brown and Turner. She pointed out how that would be contrary to the upstanding work she does with young people and children. Yet on the very evening the interview aired, attack ads directly sponsored and produced by Brown ran. They were not one of the several negative ads running for her campaign that have been produced by third party PACS.

Brown’s campaign began resorting to attack ads after polls in April showed her trailing Nina Turner badly by at least 8 points. The race has now tightened up, but Turner is still shown in the lead."

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
52. Shontel Brown is not being investigated. The Intercept's allegations are being reviewed.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jul 2021

The only "news organization" that paid any attention to The Intercept and Walter Bragman's fever dreams about a standard review of allegations possibly leading to a "probe" (after Ohio's SIU already declined to investigate) is the Washington Examiner, and that was probably only because they got to use Hillary Clinton's name as clickbait.



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Even the right wing Washington Examiner and the muckraking Walter Bragman are acknowledging that the "story" is only about the possibility of an investigation.

Why do you keep saying that Shontel Brown is being investigated?




 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
7. Certainly is! See Post #5
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:57 PM
Jul 2021

Walter Bragman, RW propagandist hacked his sensationalist LIE out to media & The Intercept.

Why would a RW Propagandist like sleazy Walter Bragman be shilling falshoods against Nina Turner's opponant?

HELLO, SOMEBODY ask Nina about her pal Walter Bragman, K?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. What a horseshit article.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:48 PM
Jul 2021
Turner had just been running a constant stream of standard, straightforward positive campaign ads until Brown’s campaign went negative. The Turner campaign ultimately responded with their own attacks ads against Brown and those produced by third party groups.

Whoa. Just stop right there.

Nina's campaign started this smear campaign long before Brown ever responded.

And as for that Ethics Violation sensationalism bs, it was hack out to the media by Walter Bragman.

Aftet his call out for this smear by lying campaign, Bragman issued this backtrack.:
Meaning, He Knows this never happened since, "The ethics commission does not comment on or confirm the existence of ethics investigations."...


Walker Bragman
@WalkerBragman
The ethics commission does not comment on or confirm the existence of ethics investigations. It does make settlement agreements public—but there is no record of a settlement agreement on this matter.


Following his being called out for this lie, here's his response:







Walter Bragman wrote these pieces for The Intetcept.
Why is he working for Nina Turner, you ask?
"Walker Bergman is a far right wing propagandist his "Opinion" pieces aren't based on the real world they are written in his fantasy world where America is a dictatorship
Why he fantasies about such crap I don't care to understand
Just know he is one sick puppy blame his parents"


Now stfu

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
6. Looks like this ethics investigation is breaking news today. Also, The Cleveland Plain Dealer
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:55 PM
Jul 2021

doesn't appear to share your viewpoint on the negative ads/smears timeline.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. THE ELECTION IS AUGUST 3. Next week. If it were a hit job
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:12 PM
Jul 2021

intended to sabotage a leading candidate, when would the hit be delivered as "breaking news"?

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
13. The State Ethics Commission chose to investigate. Are you suggesting the
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:47 PM
Jul 2021

State of Ohio is in on it?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
17. Well, they're also investigating Turner's puzzling flow of unlimited Dark Money
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:02 PM
Jul 2021

...from one to the next of the BIG Maze of her many PACS & SUPERPACS.

Its like one big ponzi money laundering scheme, but Cleveland Plains Dealer OMITTED THAT ONE, eh?

Bias is bias., & CPD is riden a one way street here.

It's horseshit.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
25. Not the State but the FEC. Although this kind of self dealing may/may not be legal it reeks of...
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:52 PM
Jul 2021

Unethical & deserves a look.

The maze of Pacs & SuperPacs that have been created to move the unlimited flow of money is a bfd.

Here's the gist of the Call for the FEC deeper dive:










DARK MONEY & 501C4










Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Jalan, when an allegation/ethical complaint is filed, these boards have
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 05:28 PM
Jul 2021

a duty to take it seriously. Even if those accusations they dismiss almost immediately as unfounded have to get a file to get that far.

These basic realities are something everyone needs to know, both those who insist on only supporting people of good ethical behaviors and those who, for their own reasons, support people famous for routinely campaigning on deceiving voters about goals, dishonest attacks on opponents, and lavish use of other dirty tactics. No matter who we support, or why, we all should know what we're doing.

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
27. Absolutely.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 05:39 PM
Jul 2021

"The case was referred to the Ethics Commission for review by the State Auditors office and Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost."

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
28. Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost is a Republican. Of course he'd play the smear game against a Dem.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:08 PM
Jul 2021

That's what Repubs do.
Whether it goesvanywhere or disappears after the election, it suddenly news & well timed the week before the election.

Unlike Turner's ties to RE donors & Foreign corrupt Mercury PR Lobbyists where there exists a valid list of receipts to prove the uncomfortable ties being sheltered from public view, Republican AG lands the Cleveland Plains Dealer a hit piece to print & sit on right before the election.

Bets it disappears from the RW AG's docket as soon as the election is over.

This ain't Nina's 1st rodeo!!
She's obviously got some RW High $$$$ Donors paying big money investments in this high stakes game.

Re: Charles Dunlop

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
36. Not a problem with that. Perhaps CPD should print the disclaimer that Bragman had to, & give...
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jul 2021

...give the public it's unbiased report of Turner's RW & foreign donars as well as her unlimited Pacs/Super Pacs & RU affiliated Mercury Lobbying group.

You think the press wouldn't want to be caught hiding this info to the OH-11 voters anymore than the "Ethics hit piece".



lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
46. Actually what they're doing is reviewing The Intercept's concerns after SIU declined to investigate.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 11:05 AM
Jul 2021

At least that's what your source says.

Hillary Clinton-endorsed Candidate Shontel Brown Faces Potential Ethics Probe
By Walker Bragman and Andrew Perez, Daily Poster On 7/27/21 at 8:45 AM EDT


The Intercept's report was forwarded to the auditor's office, and, according to a June 2 email from a representative of the office's Special Investigations Unit, the matter has now been sent to the Ohio Ethics Commission, the state's official public corruption watchdog, for review.

"The recommendation by the Special Audit Task Force was to refer this matter to the Ohio Ethics Commission for its review and consideration," noted the email. "The Auditor of State strives to make sure all matters are referred to the agency which has jurisdiction. For this reason, the Auditor of State is referring this matter to the above-mentioned agency."

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. There isn't "also a Newsweek article", the cleveland.com article reference to this fake....
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:42 PM
Jul 2021

....ethics probe is BASED on the Newsweek article. cleveland.com did absolutely zero independent reporting on this. They just took Walker Bragman's (now retracted) word and ran with it.

Repeat: there is ONE now discredited article on this subject, not "also" another one.

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
44. The Newsweek article is by Walter Bragman & the headline says "faces a POTENTIAL ethics charge".
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:36 AM
Jul 2021
Hillary Clinton-endorsed Candidate Shontel Brown Faces Potential Ethics Probe
By Walker Bragman and Andrew Perez, Daily Poster On 7/27/21 at 8:45 AM EDT


The "reporting" that there may or may not be an unconfirmed "potential ethics probe" comes courtesy of Walter Bragman and The Intercept, rose twitter's iteration of Judicial Watch.

The Intercept had hoped to stoke an investigation with Ohio's Special Order Task Force, but SIU declined to investigate and forwarded the report to the Ohio Ethics Commission for review. At this point what is known is that the Ethics Commission is reviewing a claim made by the Intercept, not that it's investigating Brown.

The Intercept's report was forwarded to the auditor's office, and, according to a June 2 email from a representative of the office's Special Investigations Unit, the matter has now been sent to the Ohio Ethics Commission, the state's official public corruption watchdog, for review.

"The recommendation by the Special Audit Task Force was to refer this matter to the Ohio Ethics Commission for its review and consideration," noted the email. "The Auditor of State strives to make sure all matters are referred to the agency which has jurisdiction. For this reason, the Auditor of State is referring this matter to the above-mentioned agency."

https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-endorsed-candidate-shontel-brown-faces-potential-ethics-probe-1613460

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The article in the Cleveland Plain Dealer is not a news story. It's an opinion piece.

Given that the cartoonist conflates "The Intercept's concerns are now the subject of an Ohio Ethics Commission review" with "Shontel Brown is now subject of an Ohio Ethics Commission review", and cites Walter Bragman as his source, he should probably stick to cartooning.

Jeff Darcy, cleveland.com Editorial cartoonist and opinion writer for cleveland.com


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Caveat lector


 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
15. Cleveland Plain Dealer literally endorsed Turner. Expect nothing else but this from them.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jul 2021

The ethics bs is a propagandist piece shoved out to damage Brown by none other than RW propagandist Walter Bragman & his go-to rag mag, The Intercept.

Bragman himself says:

@WalkerBragman
The ethics commission does not comment on or confirm the existence of ethics investigations. It does make settlement agreements public—but there is no record of a settlement agreement on this matter.

Cleveland Plain Dealer could do everyone an honest favor and disclose the same statement.

But ya know, "MONEY & MEDIA!"

Truth that's not being told by the Cleveland Plain Dealer are the Foreign & Dark Money ties from RU owned Mercury PR Lobbying group, who Turner literally gets $$$$ support from, and her RW donor.

Charles Dunlop, CEO of Ambry Genetics











--------

Man, first it's RU agent Kirill Gorenchenko & Mercury Public Affairs (global lobbyists) $upporting Nina, then it's Buddy Romer's $8million $$$ offer to Cenk to start TYT (as long as Roemer sits on the board), and Now This!

How the heck did TYT, JDems & Nina all get conned into these nefarious affiliations?

It's FORIEGN, it's RW, & it's RICH CORPORATE DONORS.
Whaddya spose any of thoe 3 listed might expect in exchange?

Here, reach right in there & grab yourself a big handful of Foreign, Corporate Cash.
No worries, we won't ask for anything in exchange.



HELLO! SOMEBODY Please ask CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER about the Dark RW Corporate Donations to these Turner recipients.

Thanks.

Unlike Bragman, Brown actually has the receipts.





 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
18. Bias. Its a sensatuonalist story omitting the full truth.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:06 PM
Jul 2021

Now tell the truth of Turner's dark foreign money flow to her maze of super pacs and we'll even provide the receipts !!
Otherwise CPD is a biased piece of horseshit.

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
54. Why would anybody contact a state ethics board about a confused cartoonist misreporting facts
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 01:53 PM
Jul 2021

about a standard review of The Intercept's claims?



lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
47. The newspaper isn't reporting that there's an ethics probe. A cartoonist
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jul 2021

wrote a boilerplate opinion piece in which he confuses a review of the Intercept's allegations with a review of Shontel Brown. That's what appeared on the cleveland.com website.

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
45. The Plain Dealer isn't reporting that there's an ethics investigation. An editorial cartoonist
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:48 AM
Jul 2021

wrote an opinion piece for cleveland.com/The Cleveland Plain Dealer that conflates "The Intercept's concerns are now the subject of an Ohio Ethics Commission review" with "Shontel Brown is now subject of an Ohio Ethics Commission review", and cited Walter Bragman as his source. Even Walter had to admit that the ethics probe is only "potential" in his headline.

Jeff Darcy, cleveland.com Editorial cartoonist and opinion writer for cleveland.com

Why would anyone want people to think that an opinion piece on cleveland.com is a news story in the Cleveland Plain Dealer?

Cui bono?




progressoid

(49,916 posts)
11. Far right propagandist? Wut?
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jul 2021

I don't know much about him but the few articles I just perused were anything but far right.



 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
22. Bragman is full on antiDemocratic & like his Red Rose cosplayers, writes his own sensational hits...
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jul 2021

Because that's what he gets paid to do.

Notice his walkback when he was called out for shoving the Ethics Lie.

Oh wait... there's NO RECORD OF THIS MATTER AND...ethics commission does not comment on or confirm the existence of ethics investigations

@WalkerBragman
The ethics commission does not comment on or confirm the existence of ethics investigations. It does make settlement agreements public—but there is no record of a settlement agreement on this matter.


Bragman's full of shit & CPD as as well in running this bs story without the disclaimer.

The ethics commission does not comment on or confirm the existence of ethics investigations. It does make settlement agreements public—but there is no record of a settlement agreement on this matter.

THIS ⬆️

Cha

(296,679 posts)
20. Oh Boo Freaking Hoo. Going "negative" on Turner is
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jul 2021

quoting her own words Against now Pres Joe Biden.. that's NEGATIVE.

Sanders Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Rips Biden: Choosing Between Him and Trump is Like Eating From a ‘Bowl of Sh*t’

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213815901

NT is responsible for her Own Words.. No one else.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
24. No shit! NINA's own words calling Biden a 'Bowl of SHIT' & CLYBURN 'STUPID', is all hers.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:18 PM
Jul 2021

OWN IT NINA!

Your words outta your mouth.

No one had to make up that vile, hateful talk.

You own that Nina.

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. This was a political "dirty trick" that is being twisted out of proportion by....
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:31 PM
Jul 2021

....Shontel Brown's opponent(s)

Even the person who "broke" the story a day or two ago, Walker Bragman, has backed off.

The story is presented as though Brown unilaterally gave those contracts to the company that was awarded the contracts.

In fact, the Cuyahoga County Council has eleven members, the votes were UNANIMOUS. Ten other members of the Council voted to award those contracts.

I wish those who want to smear Shontel Brown on this issue would be upfront and provide the complete and accurate truth.

Further, the article (by the way, the Chief editor of cleveland.com is a republican) claims that Shontel Brown began running attack ads when she fell behind. Not true! Her campaign has not run a single attack ad. This is another falsehood in the article.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
33. This is an opinion piece by cartoonist Jeff Darcy. He makes several evidence-free assertions.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:36 PM
Jul 2021

Please stop representing this as a news story.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
41. CPD should print the disclaimer that Bragman had to, along with the Cartoon Newz
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:48 PM
Jul 2021

@WalkerBragman
The ethics commission does not comment on or confirm the existence of ethics investigations. It does make settlement agreements public—but there is no record of a settlement agreement on this matter.

Following his being called out for this lie.

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
48. No, the Ohio State Ethics Commission is not investigating Shontel Brown.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 11:50 AM
Jul 2021

They are reviewing the The Intercept's allegations about Brown.

Glad I could clear that up.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
50. But..but..but.. it's ALL over the inernet!!
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jul 2021

Damage done, mission accomplished, eh Nina!

Nina's buddy Walter Bragman & The Intercept came thru at the last minute.
See, it doesn't have to be true, just effective.

Now that's some professional ratfking right there.
And the glazed-over eyes for Nina, repeating the dirty bowl of shit thrown at Brown are applauding & retweeting & MSNBS is running headlines with the BIG LIE.

This is how Nina Turner just does business.
Buyer beware --

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
51. It's disgusting to see this level of disinformation being promulgated against a Democrat.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 12:12 PM
Jul 2021

We expect it with Judicial Watch and HRC or with Newsmax and Dr. Fauci.

But I don't expect anybody to bring that stuff here.

DFW

(54,254 posts)
53. I think all buyers of that particular package are quite aware.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jul 2021

And they are still enthusiastic consumers.

I'm sure they would be quite content to sleep in this bed they are making. I hope we don't have to.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
55. Tribal us vs them. Win at all cost like a sporting event mentality
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 02:05 PM
Jul 2021

The intent is to drive deep division, whether by Truth or by Lie.

When one sees who funds the division via media & rhetoric, it is not difficult to pinpoint where the desire for a deeply divided America originates & who is the real beneficiary.

Divide to weaken & conquer is a global power move & one the US & our allies have long fought to contain.

Those who see the shining glitter for the glaring threat are fools.

DFW

(54,254 posts)
56. I don't even think there is much argument over the real beneficiary of a divided America
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jul 2021

It's just that some see that beneficiary as an ultimate ally, and some see that beneficiary as a foe.

I would count myself in the latter category.

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
49. Mahalo Cha. The Ohio Ethics Commission is not investigating Shontel Brown.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 11:56 AM
Jul 2021

It's reviewing The Intercept's allegations.

The Ohio Special Investigations Unit and it's Special Audit Task Force already declined to investigate.

Why is this kind of disinformation showing up here at DU?

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