Rep Jayapal is on CNN saying she will not vote for the bipartisan infrastructure deal, unless they

[JohnSJ]

tie it to the reconciliation bill

I doubt that will happen.

What I don't understand is why they not view this as two separate bills. Maybe I don't understand the mechanism.

Why can't they do the bipartisan bill, then follow through with the Democratic only bill through reconciliation?

I don't if we have the votes for the reconciliation plan, since Sinema has said she has issues with the 3.5 trillion reconciliation bill.

We are running out of time.

The republicans would love nothing more than nothing getting accomplished.

I really feel sorry for Biden.

Between the progressive caucus, sinema, manchin, and the republicans, I don't think things look very bright because of the narrow margins we are dealing with

[PortTack]

1. Not good...geez!

[JohnSJ]

3. She was on CNN, but between the progressive caucus, sinema, manchin, and the republicans

it will be a miracle if anything happens I think

[Fiendish Thingy]

23. Actually, it is excellent strategy from the Progressive Caucus

If they didn’t take this position, then the bipartisan bill would end up being a $350 billion, bridges and roads only piece of shit bill that steals its funding from COVID relief funds, and then Manchin and Sinema could walk away from the reconciliation bill.

A threatened veto by the Progressive Caucus holds the GOP and Manchin and Sinema accountable for crafting a meaningful bipartisan bill, while also supporting the reconciliation process, otherwise Pelosi and Schumer will just go straight to reconciliation, and kill the bipartisan bill entirely.

[jimfields33]

2. We can have a few democratic house members vote no

We only need 218. We have a handful to spare. At least one other bill was barely passed, but passed it did.

[JohnSJ]

4. For the bipartisan bill, doesn't it have to go back to the Senate if the House makes any

changes?

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. It goes to conference committee to reconcile any differences. Nt

[tritsofme]

21. Conferences, especially formal ones, are frequently bypassed.

It’s likely the House will be forced into a take-it or leave-it proposition with the Senate bill, as any substantive changes would blow up the deal and its ability to win 60 votes.

[Me.]

5. Once Again

It always annoys me to the nth degree when Brian Williams says, which he does every chance he can, that the Dems are prone to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and yet time and again that little saying is proven by one Dem, or another, another throwing the gauntlet at their own party and Rep. Jaypal seems to have a habit of doing just that.

[dsc]

6. Pelosi has already done that

she has made it crystal clear that there will not be a vote on the bipartisan bill unless both bills have been passed.

[JohnSJ]

7. I don't think that was very wise to announce one's strategy. Regardless, she didn't make that

linkage today, but only said that the House would need to see exactly what the bipartisan bill said before they vote on it.

If the strategy is to hold up the bipartisan bill in the House until the reconciliation part comes through, that might be a long wait, since sinema has already indicated she is not for the 3.5 trillion dollar reconciliation bill

If we had a good 4 or 5 seat majority in the Senate there would be no problems, but unfortunately that is not where things stand, and I suspect the republicans would be very happy if there was no bill

There is a real question if even this bipartisan bill can get 10 republicans to vote for it

Of course if that is the case, the the Democrats have no choice but to just go with the reconciliation bill by itself, and hope sinema and manchin are on board

[ShazamIam]

8. I think the one being referred to is the budget legislation, and I hope the Democratic dump the

bipartisan idea, it will be like the ACA where the Republicans load it with poison pills, one is more privatization, (tax conversion to profit and wage and service reduction), along with other horrors.

This bipartisan bs is nothing but the Republicans getting the Democratic to legislate the Republican agenda, Mitchell already announced there will be no Republican votes.

[JohnSJ]

9. I think that is will happen, but with Sinema coming out saying she would not support the

3.5 trillion dollar reconciliation bill, I think it is an uphill battle that anything will happen before the clock runs out

[Johnny2X2X]

13. Sinema didn't say that (exactly)

She says she won't support the bill if it's $3.5 Trillion, basically she's posturing and will get some stuff scraped out of it before she supports it, might end up being $2.9 or $3.2 Trillion.

[Fiendish Thingy]

15. Post a link to Sinema's statement in opposition to the $3.5 T reconciliation bill. Nt

[JohnSJ]

17. I am not so sure. I think she taking the bipartisan republican position, and removing any

linkage to the reconciliation bill that the Speaker and the Progressive Caucus said they would require in order to vote for the bipartisan bill

I am not even sure if this bipartisan bill has 10 republican votes in the Senate

[maxsolomon]

10. Jayapal is staking out a negotiating position.

She will vote for the final bill.

[JohnSJ]

11. Probably, but because of the narrow margins the Democrats have in the Senate and House,

along with the resistance from sinema and manchin, I am not sure there is much of a negotiating position

[OnDoutside]

12. Exactly. As I said re Manchin and Sinema, the time for judgement is when the vote is called on the

floor. Everything else is positioning and noise.

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. Pelosi has already stated the bipartisan bill must be linked to reconciliation

Otherwise the Republicans (or Manchin and Sinema) could sabotage one or both. The bipartisan bill won’t get a vote in the house until reconciliation approval has passed in both chambers.

It’s the smart thing to do.

[JohnSJ]

19. The speaker didn't say that today, which is the right thing to do, say nothing. I wish they

would have not spelled out that strategy publicly until after the bipartisan bill was passed, and sent to the House first.

[The Magistrate]

18. If The 'Bipartisan' Bill Does Not Pass, Sir, That Is What Will Be Done

I expect Rep. Jayapal knows this, and doubt she expects ten of the Republican shit-heels who befoul our Senate to vote for the bill everyone is pretending to negotiate....

[brooklynite]

20. Much more important to stand firm and get nothing accomplished....

[NurseJackie]

22. I'm sure her constituents will appreciate that.

This type of showboating politics serves no good purpose (other than vanity and ego). Sad. Right now is an all-hands-on-deck moment and she needs to get with the program.

[qazplm135]

24. this will all happen

they wouldn't be doing this if Sinema and Manchin weren't roughly on board with a 3.5 trillion ish bill.

Now, along the way there will be raised voices, last minute problems, anger, but ultimately something around 3.5 trillion will get done and that bill will be voted on in the House at the same time as the bipartisan bill.

The latter will get voted on first in the Senate, then sit in the House until the reconciliation bill passes, and then the House will pass both together.

And as always they will get around the spending bills have to originate in the House rule.

It won't be smooth, but it will happen. No one will be completely happy, but a 90 percent solution will happen.

[JohnSJ]

25. It will be quite a finesse if they pull this through