seriously people. prison rape is not funny. quit w the damn jokes.

[mopinko]

i've seen 5 today.
i'm an old mod w some frustration w the jury system. i've seen how hard it is to come up w clear rules around here, which is why they are kinda vague.
i've alerted on them in the past, and too often seen them stand.

i do wish it was an explicit rule, but it pains me that there is anyone who thinks those jokes are funny.
.
just stop it.
please.

[Skittles]

1. THANK YOU

it's disgusting and terribly distressing to read on a progressive board

[Mike Nelson]

2. Agree...

... seen that a lot here. "Jokes" about being raped in prison. It's wrong... everywhere, even in prison.

[mopinko]

4. it shouldnt be assumed to be 'part of the punishment'

it's sick enough that it happens.

[bluedevil4]

3. It was

making me sick to so I thank you for speaking up

[mopinko]

5. welcome to du.

it's been a peeve for a long time.

[wryter2000]

9. Hi, bluedevil

Here's a devil for you.

[multigraincracker]

6. Also, stop with the penis size crap.

Unless you can find review study of any correlation between gun owners and Dick size. Other wise it’s sexist BS.

[wryter2000]

8. Thank you

Besides being stupid, it's not funny.

[USALiberal]

18. +1000, some DUers are terrible about these topics! Nt

[Treefrog]

163. There seem to be some obsessed with dick, p---y etc., jokes and so on.

Really middle school stuff. Same posters all the time.

[Silent3]

84. I've complained about that before, but the complaints get no traction whatsoever

People just love that as their go-to sneer about gun nuts, or anything else that's considered "compensating" behavior.

Maybe there's some truth in some cases to that compensation idea, but half the men in the world are below average in size (well, technically, below median), many of those men are perfectly decent guys who don't do anything obnoxious because of their penis size, but they keep getting the message loud and clear that their penis is something they should be ashamed of.

Which, by the way, is a great way to encourage the feelings in inadequacy that lead to obnoxious compensating behavior.

[NurseJackie]

99. You're over-thinking and over-analyzing it.

Which, by the way, is a great way to encourage the feelings in inadequacy that lead to obnoxious compensating behavior.

You're over-thinking and over-analyzing it.

but half the men in the world are below average in size (well, technically, below median),

Enhhh. Again with the overthinking. But as long as you've got your calculator out, don't forget that that six-tenths of one percent have a micropenis condition... that probably skews your numbers too.

[tonedevil]

125. You are under-thinking. /nt

[NurseJackie]

126. Ha! I'm laughing.

[tonedevil]

127. I'm sure you are. /nt

[NurseJackie]

128. Yes.

[progressoid]

145. +1

[LiberatedUSA]

136. I've made a post before...

...to another poster trying to explain it.

When gun safety advocates accuse gun nuts of having a small penis, they are taking about them not having any courage. If an accused yanked down their britches and pulled out a Ron Jeremy-sized destruction device, the gun safety advocate would still say the gun nut has a small penis.

[NurseJackie]

138. I think that about covers it...

... or un-covers it, as the case may be.

[progressoid]

144. So how does that analogy work with female "gun nuts"?

Or is lack of courage/penis size thing only applicable to men?

[LiberatedUSA]

146. They are just saying penis size in place of...

...courage, so it applies. They mean courage no matter who. So yes, they would say those women have some short noodles.

Why do they insist on using penis size as a stand-in for courage? Probably because it annoys the other side.

[progressoid]

147. It's a lazy analogy.

[NurseJackie]

155. Who cares? It gets under their skin, so... mission accomplished.

It's a lazy analogy.

Who cares? It gets under their skin, so... mission accomplished. Why should people care about (or be offended about) this as much as you appear to be?

[progressoid]

158. Does it though?

I know a couple gun nuts IRL (nephew, brother-in-law), they would just laugh it off it you said this to their face.

Similarly, when they call us snowflakes or the "tolerant left" or communists, etc., does it get under your skin? I would assume it doesn't because it's a weak, juvenile attempt.

[NurseJackie]

159. Of course it does! Because they know it's true...

Does it though?

Of course it does!

they would just laugh it off it you said this to their face.

Because they know it's true and their nervous laughter is a way of disguising their feelings of inadequacy. It's just another way to over-compensate.

But, if what you claim is true, then these taunts bother them less than it bothers you. Why is that?

[progressoid]

160. Nice try.

But, if what you claim is true, then these taunts bother them less than it bothers you. Why is that?

[NurseJackie]

161. Nice dodge.

Nice try.

[Silent3]

166. Maybe we should call them Trump n*gg**s?

It would get under their skin, so mission accomplished. What's the harm them? Anyone else who might be offended or hurt should just get over it, right?

[NurseJackie]

170. Trump Nuggets? What a silly thing to say!

[Silent3]

172. I often find that this smiley...

...is used by people who can't really defend their positions, so they just pull the immature "here I am laughing at you" gambit.

[NurseJackie]

177. Actually...

I often find that this smiley...

I have much more imagination that I'm being given credit for.

...is used by people who can't really defend their positions, so they just pull the immature "here I am laughing at you" gambit.

And it's "often" used by individuals who think that the entire argument is ridiculous and find the extreme, exaggerated, overwrought responses and teeth-gnashing anger (over nothing) to be genuinely amusing.

"Trump Nuggets!" HA!! That's hysterical!!

[LanternWaste]

179. I'm not at all surprised you've reduced yourself to that argument.

[Scrivener7]

171. Courage doesn't enter into it. It is about the fact that the gun nuts are so obviously

broadcasting their feelings of inadequacy with their guns and their cosplay and their posturing that they think is "manly."

Even the gun manufacturers understand that all this is an attempt to alleviate feelings of inadequacy. Which was the manufacturer who said the gun was a "man card"? Was it Bushmaster? That's pretty blatant. And it's obviously designed to appeal to those who were not all that secure in their masculinity. Which they must have identified as their target market. So......

[Silent3]

152. I'm overthinking it, therefore what?

Let the big gun/small penis jokes fly?

[NurseJackie]

156. Sure! Why not?

I'm overthinking it, therefore what?
Let the big gun/small penis jokes fly?

Sure! Why not? Same thing goes for big trucks with loud mufflers, rebel flags, and brass truck-nuts hanging from the hitch.

[George II]

186. A couple of interesting sub-threads. Dr. Sigmund Freud would have a ball with these - pun intended!

(can I use this?)

[NurseJackie]

187. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...

... same thing goes for elevators and trains entering tunnels.

[NurseJackie]

95. Ha!

My husband and sons make comments about guns and penis size... and they also joke about drivers with loud mufflers and penis size.

And don't get me started on their comments about those ugly "truck-nuts" ornaments.

[BannonsLiver]

107. Those GD mufflers are so annoying!

Drives me crazy. It would also seem to correlate with low IQ, one would think.

[LiberatedUSA]

153. Overly loud trucks are another one...

...where the same concept applies.

Big, annoying, modified truck nut guy gets mad at being accused of having a small penis, gets out and pulls out a huge hog, only to be responded with:

Sir, you didn’t have to flash me your small penis, I knew by your truck.

[sarisataka]

101. I find it useful

If I am in a discussion with someone and they are making snickering penis/gun jokes like Beavis and Butthead I know I am conversing with someone who seriously lacks maturity. I don't need to waste time giving their opinion any weight and can discontinue the conversation.

[NurseJackie]

157. Does that happen to you often?

[sarisataka]

173. Not very much

Even the teenagers in my life find such humor juvenile. TBH I really don't discuss guns very much these days.

The only opinion that matters to me on the subject of penis has expressed her multiple satisfaction on many occasions so I don't care what anyone else thinks.

[Treefrog]

164. This.

And it does seem to happen often here.

[NullTuples]

184. Thank you.

[wryter2000]

7. No rape is funny

Just stop!

[mopinko]

10. male on male rape is bad shit.

happened to my son as a kid. he's a lost soul.

[femmedem]

13. I'm so sorry to hear that! i know a handful of men who were raped as teens.

I was just about to thank you for consistently speaking out against prison rape here on DU without knowing the backstory. It gives all the more weight to your objections.

I hope your son heals. I was raped as a teen and it affected the course of my life for decades--I went from being an A student with a clear future to self-harm and years of being an exotic dancer--but it's far behind me now and I'm happy.

[mopinko]

14. i hope he gets where you are.

he was only 10. kid lived 2 houses down. kid's brother was in his class at school.
he didnt tell me for 15 yrs.

the weird twist is that before he told me, i bought the building. his kid sister lived on that apt.

he's 28, and so very nowhere. i've tried everything to get him help.


but ftr, this all predates my knowledge. when i was a mod that shit came down sooooo fast.

[femmedem]

24. 10 is so very young to experience that trauma.

I think it's worse for males, especially males who haven't had a healthy sexual experience yet. Plus the shame that a kid would likely feel, thinking he did something to bring it on.

But the fact that he finally told you is grounds for hope. He must love and trust you tremendously. If we're both on this message board in a decade or two, I hope you message someday and tell me he's doing great.

[mopinko]

30. yeah, he still hasnt

had a couple gf's but of the whirlwind variety. didnt last long, and did a lot of damage.

he loves me the best he can, but trust is hard. and i cant swear to him that getting help would help, cuz i cant say shrinks have done much for me.
he wants to bury it. he cant share it. yet.

he's such a tender soul, too. rough and tumble at play as a kid, but sweet to his sibs and pets.
that his friend stood by and watched is prolly the worst bit.

i hope i get to send you that message some day. worked rly hard to reach out to him in the last year. he did shitty shit. i had to kick him out of the house.
seems like reaching out just makes the hole deeper. i dunno.

[femmedem]

69. Heartbreaking.

Especially that his friend watched. Even though his friend was probably just a terrified kid, too, I can imagine how your son felt.

I wish I had answers for you, but I don't. I'm not even a parent. But it's obvious that you love him, and that you're trying to navigate a rough road with no maps.

[mopinko]

169. i'm reasonable certain

the kids were abused, and passing it on. the family always did set of my radar.
big extended family in an apt, but you rarely saw the kids outside. that kind of thing.

lesson learned too late- listen to your gut, mo. it sees shit your eyes dont.

[North Shore Chicago]

75. So very sorry

you suffered that trauma, but one nit to pick.

Millions of women may take issue with your "I think it's worse for males....."

They probably do not think that one bit.

[North Shore Chicago]

83. Good morning

My reply was to another poster, I quoted them.


Have a good weekend.

[wryter2000]

133. As a survivor of rape

I can tell you that being raped anally would have been much, much worse

[mopinko]

134. there are degrees.

there just are. i know someone who was kidnapped and gang raped for 4 days.
they intended to kill her when they were done, and tried to do so.
the youngest of the lot, the 17 yo son of 1 of the men, got her into a van, dropped her near where they picked her up, then shot himself a block away.

it was very painful for my son. one thing that upsets me about not being told was that i would have taken him to the doctor. he should have been. he had trouble w bowel control which i should have seen. he had had issues. he was that kid, but....

no rape is funny tho, none.

[duhneece]

11. I, too, wish it was an explicit rule.

Having a son in prison and reading those comments on DU is heart-wrenching, gut hurt.

[mopinko]

12. oh honey.

see that people. jebus.

y'all have no idea who is on the other side of the screen.

[brer cat]

15. Thank you.

It is a message that needs to be frequently repeated.

[mopinko]

16. apparently.

sadly.

[USALiberal]

17. I'll alert every post I read that does that. Many are blocked. Nt

[mopinko]

19. they usually do.

maybe i'm just chapped that an obvious personal attack on me passed the jury today.
i wish we could make notes on our alerts like you used to be able to do. subtle stuff usually escapes.

they've been so common on these threads about these traitors getting rolled up.

[USALiberal]

21. I agree, I think we should be able to give a reason! Nt

[spooky3]

26. agree nt

[mopinko]

35. used to be able to.

many many alerts to mods would strike us one way, but the alerter explained why it was a problem, and we saw it.

[Treefrog]

67. A poster personally attacked me today and someone alerted, not me. It was hidden.

I just received a pm telling me to go “fuck myself, newb.”

Some real creeps on here.

[mopinko]

80. send that to admin

get the link, and send it on the ask the admins page.

there are people here who arent who they pretend to be. and some dont bother to pretend.

[Treefrog]

111. Thanks, I was wondering about going to Community Help. It was really nasty.

He definitely has some anger issues.

[mopinko]

113. the things that come out under the cloak of anonymity.

a major reason i wonder if this species was even a good idea.

[Ms. Toad]

119. There's an alert button on the bottom of the email.

Use it!

[Treefrog]

120. Aha!

Not sure how I missed that. Worth a try , I guess.

[Ms. Toad]

121. I had to go check to make sure it was still there.

I knew there used to be, for circumstances just like this. Since those go directly to the admins, you have a better chance.

[NNadir]

151. Why that's terrible!!!!

How could anyone, even your peers, possibly disagree with you on what is and is not insulting?

Well, I have noticed in our times that there are people who can find statements of facts as an insult, but hopefully most of us avoid it.

Myself, I rather like the jury system. I seldom find it necessary however to alert on anyone, because the MIRT team, another expression of consensus rules does an excellent job keeping the most egregious posters off the site.

An administration that is open to consensus is a good one, but certainly some rules are well advised.

I certainly agree that a rule against applauding rape would be a good one.

When I'm on a jury, or when it is my privilege to serve on MIRT, I rule against any expression of violence. Rape anywhere by anyone at any time in any place is not funny.

I had occasion in my life to have had to fight off a rape as a young man, and the experience was terrifying. At least I was free and could escape, but where one is confined it must be triply horrible.

[mopinko]

154. your ears burning?

[NNadir]

167. No. I'm just stating my opinion along with a fact from my life.

If, of course, you object to this, you could alert and see if other people agree with you that such a statement is objectionable.

I have agreed with you on the subject of rape jokes, but perhaps something else troubles you.

I have a somewhat thicker skin than some people, since I'm fairly sure about what I believe and know, since I spend the bulk of my free time being open to ideas. This process allows one to see and understand them and accept or reject them on the merits.

I have held ideas that did not stand up to scrutiny and am proud to have changed them. I have learned that ideas must be supported and I do support them, where appropriate with serious reference.

I have spent my entire long adult life checking on the validity of my views, and changing them when I recognize flaws in them.

The most important of these would be my views on energy and climate, which at the end of my long life, I consider the most important to humanity's future, since our planetary atmosphere is being destroyed by complacency and wishful thinking, including that expounded by obliviously bourgeois types. I have certainly changed my ideas on this topic. I used to spew popular pablum but I confess this was wrong. Having worked very hard for three decades, for long hours developing my ideas on energy, reading tens of thousands of somewhat abstruse technical papers, I am far more confident in them than I would have been if I relied on pop sources or repeating rote mythology.

I will not live much longer myself, which may make some people more happy than others, but my ethics require me to care about the future even though I will not live in it.

It's not like I confine myself to my suburban backyard. I care as much for example for example, about a kid in Bangladesh eating rice irrigated with ground water contaminated with arsenic because of all the dams on the Ganges than I would about, say, a subsidy for which I might qualify.

I will point out on occasion that I find narrower views of the world to be especially provincial, and I suppose that if I point out and dismiss provincial views, a provincial might find that insulting and alert, and then complain that the alert went nowhere.

It certainly seems possible.

I trust in the judgment of my fellow DUers to determine whether such remarks as I might make are offensive. Most DUers have good judgment, some don't but most do, which is why the jury system is to be applauded.

At least I think so.

We do have people who are too thin skinned to regard any failure to embrace their pronouncements on subjects on which they clearly have little, if any, understanding as a personal insult.

When I'm on a jury and rule that a post clearly doesn't break a rule, I almost always attribute it to misunderstanding, and being in good faith. I would do this with such an alert.

I've alerted maybe less than ten times in my long tenure here, and then only for obvious trolls especially since I learned to use the fabulous ignore button for people whose views I find absurd and inflexible.

Recently, although I have in my files copies of literally thousands of technical papers on the subject of the chemistry, physics, and biological properties of the widely naturally distributed 92nd element in the very wonderful periodic table, a table as a scientist I have intimate knowledge, someone deigned to lecture me on that element obviously from a rather limited cartoonish perspective. I could have claimed that this silliness insulted my intelligence and I suppose I might have alerted on it, but what good would that have done?

DUers, being by and large, sensible people, would not have approved of such an alert I'm sure and frankly they have better things to deal with than my parochial wounded ego.

There's that famous maxim that ends with the words "...remove all doubt..." I kind of like cliches because in general, cliches become cliches by being true.

I'm inclined to let bad ideas hang out in the air where they can be smelled to see whether they stink.

Anyway, I do applaud your views on rape "jokes" and I would certainly agree that any comment belittling the horror of sexual violence should not be allowed to pass here. Sexual violence is always abhorrent and is never funny no matter what the context. I have recc'd your post accordingly.

[Iggo]

39. Alerts are hit and miss.

The ignore function works every time, though.

[mopinko]

98. i have a pretty long list.

i highly recommend it.
still, i care about this place. it's worthless if people cant be civil.

[Hekate]

135. I use half the block function

That is, block mail creates a list, and I can still see what they’re up to. Every so often I cull the list and remove those who've been tombstoned.

Cockroaches.

[mopinko]

137. i assume there are replies here i cant see.

prolly just as well.

[Hekate]

141. It's just as well....

A couple of those who have been escorted off the thread stunk it up pretty good before and after the explicit posts that got deleted. They were proud of themselves and their wit.

[mopinko]

148. i peeked

actually only a couple. the usual suspects w the usual attitude.
better than i expected.

[Iggo]

143. Yep. I use that as a replacement for the old "Friends" list.

[Iggo]

142. Me, too.

I’ve been here quite a while. There’s a few things I have zero tolerance for and that’s one of them.

[MenloParque]

20. 100%

I don’t give a flying fuck if it is just a joke, but just as much as I hate prison rape jokes, I also find making fun of peoples looks immature and just lazy. Low hanging fruit jokes are lazy and lame, no matter who the target. Breast size, penis size, fat, skinny…it ain’t funny so just knock that shit off.

[USALiberal]

22. +1000, some like school children! Nt

[TNNurse]

23. It is never OK to make rape jokes, ever.

[LiberatedUSA]

25. Lot of cheers for extra, on the side, prison punishment...

...outside of their sentence; for those we dislike.

And if you bring it up? You get accused either outright or hinted at of being pro whomever you are saying shouldn’t be tossed into a situation where they take a group beating as a way to feel that showed them; instead of asking to improve prison so that people do their time in safe conditions.

[mopinko]

33. yeah, it's so 'soft on crime'

to let people be brutalized and twisted while in jail.

[maxsolomon]

40. I was assused by 2 DU dudes just yesterday of "excusing" crime

because i objected to their endorsement of prison assault and murder. of teenagers.

[Behind the Aegis]

27. It is sad you have to remind people, but it is not surprising.

Of course, as a survivor of sexual assault, I was told because I was gay I wasn't "really" assaulted because "you can't rape the willing." Yeah, that statement really was stated here and to a survivor of sexual assault. So, that you need to 'remind' people that rape "jokes" aren't funny, and shouldn't be acceptable here, sadly, doesn't surprise me.

[mopinko]

31. egad.

part of my son's problem, as a victim of male on male rape was being told that made him gay.
at 10.

i swear sometimes empathy is dying out in the human species.

[Solly Mack]

28. K&R!

[littlemissmartypants]

29. Rape in any circumstances and wishing or making statements of

Desires to inflict serious bodily harm ON ANYONE is totally repugnant.

Any such language signals depravity and evil and is the reflection of the true mind and lack of morality
of the person making such statements.

[mopinko]

32. maybe the saddest thing is what a common threat rape has become.

seems like every woman w a voice gets rape threats allllll the time.
the meaning of the threats is clear.

[sarisataka]

34. Extra judicial punishment "jokes"

Are a very popular pastime with some people. It is revolting.

I used to alert but it became so frustrating seeing rape jokes stand while those admonishing such posts get hidden that I just gave up.

[mopinko]

36. yup.

you'd think not here, but that would be naive.

[Iggo]

37. It never ends.

In fact, I’ll say that back when we had mods, one of the things that got taken care of, and taken care of quick, was prison rape enthusiasts. We don’t have mods anymore.

[mopinko]

38. yeah. shoot on sight.

one of the few things you could almost do alone if they were bad enough.
but all it ever took was a second, cuz no one ever argued those.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

41. I'd expand it to prison violence as a whole.

(Of course, see my sig line for what I'd REALLY like.)

[mopinko]

42. right there w you.

the waste of it all.

jeebus we are a sorry species.

[ZERTErYNOthe]

43. Prison Bitch

This was a played a lot for a while on local morning drive time radio in the DC area:

I thought it was funny at the time (not now), but yeah, it's tragic how that has become accepted, and somehow humerous.

I think it is progress that imprisoned Republicans are now advocating for reform.

[Scrivener7]

112. You should remove that video.

[Treefrog]

165. Why is that still here?

Sheesh.

[Scrivener7]

168. Beats the hell out of me.

But isn't the "Look at this! I don't agree with it but..... Here it is!" approach slick?

SMDH.

[mopinko]

45. i'm not the govt. and i cant remove anything.

but this place has a tos, and those 'jokes' violate it.

they arent funny. they arent even jokes.

[LW1977]

54. Thank you!

[mopinko]

59. you signed a tos, too.

this sort of shit is expressly forbidden here.
apparently you think that's a bad thing.

nice to get to know you.

[Hekate]

61. Another one? You signed the TOS. You apparently did not read the TOS. I suggest you do so. nt

[obamanut2012]

73. So, you think rape "jokes" are funny?

Wow.

You have issues. I mean that sincerely -- you need to talk to someone.

[LanternWaste]

149. Unsurprising you applaud the jar-jar binks of posts...

[Iggo]

162. .

[Hekate]

60. "Censorship"? You signed the TOS. You apparently did not read the TOS. I suggest you do so. nt

[obamanut2012]

72. So, you think prison rape "jokes" are funny

Wow.

You have issues. I mean that sincerely -- you need to talk to someone.

[greenjar_01]

46. Totally agree

One of the real weaknesses of the jury system. It's disappointing that so many in this community find these jokes "funny."

I'm also disturbed by the gaslighting of those winking at prison rape, who say "I'm just describing how it is for (whatever class of offender) har har har." They're even more cowardly than the outright jokers!

Do better, juries.

[LW1977]

51. Well done!

[Scrivener7]

115. How sad of you.

[LanternWaste]

150. You chose poorly. Again.

Bless your heart...

[mopinko]

56. is that supposed to be funny?

what.the.actual.fuck?

[Tarc]

91. Yep

[AngryOldDem]

102. Proves your point.

In a topic YOU started about the very thing that the poster is mocking.

Unfuckingbelievable.

[mopinko]

110. at least the jury got it right.

that's something, anyway.

[AngryOldDem]

116. Really glad to see this.

That was absolutely disgusting.

[Hekate]

62. Jesus

[Tarc]

92. You're welcome

[Hekate]

130. That's one

[obamanut2012]

74. Explain why rape "jokes" are funny?

Seriously, explain.

[NYC Liberal]

78. It's only funny if you think rape is a punishment for wrongful actions

rather than a violent crime.

If rape is a ”punishment” for bad people in prison, then by their logic you could make an argument for justifiable rape outside of prison.

It’s deeply disturbing.

[Tarc]

93. Humor is in the eye of the beholder

[sarisataka]

105. I suppose...

Some people find Holocaust and racist jokes funny too.

[Hekate]

140. Probably the same ones. The through-line is enjoyment of extreme cruelty to others. nt

[Scrivener7]

106. Grow the fuck up.

[Ferrets are Cool]

48. K and R

Anyone who thinks prison rape is funny NEEDS to watch Oz. Nothing at all funny about it dammit.

[marble falls]

49. You know where I stand on this! Absolutely!

[mopinko]

58. utterly disgusting considering the subject.

there's something wrong w you.

[Hekate]

65. Oh good, it's gone

[mopinko]

66. thank you jurors.

sheesh. ppl.

[zipplewrath]

52. There's alot of this "problem"

I understand the desire for "justice" for people of horrific crimes. But none the less, we must maintain our basic principals.

[BannonsLiver]

55. Seems like a solution in search of a problem.

What, has there been a run on prison rape jokes here? This thread is the only thing I’m seeing on the subject.

[mopinko]

57. cuz fortunately, most get a quick hide.

[NYC Liberal]

79. Check out LBN when there's a thread about someone being

convicted of a violent crime or sentenced.

[Scrivener7]

122. You didn't see them? Well, gosh. That must mean they don't exist.

[BannonsLiver]

123. Well golly gee, I must have missed the part where I said they don't exist.

I questioned how big of a problem it was. Is that okay?

[Hekate]

63. I'm with you, mopinko. Some of the responses are heartwrenching, & some are plain disgusting

What the hell is wrong with some people?

[mopinko]

64. argh. i wish i knew.

some sad shit on display here.

i intend to take the opportunity to update my ignore list.
but a good reminder that all here are not who they seem to be.

[Treefrog]

68. A poster here wrote about their own horrible experience with prison violence.

I was then amazed to see this same poster post that they hoped someone would be attacked in prison.

[BannonsLiver]

103. We have someone who is a smoker and who eats out at restaurants

That has somehow positioned themselves as an authority on public health, so those kinds of inconsistencies are probably more common than we think.

[Treefrog]

114. Lol, I'll have to keep my eyes out for that one.

[Mike Niendorff]

70. Thank you.

WTF is wrong with people who think state-sanctioned rape as a means of social control is somehow the punchline to a joke?


MDN

[obamanut2012]

71. Yeah, and some are being "cutesy" about it

Why, I didn't mean anything in my post! Not little ole meeeeee.

Rape in any way is a crime and vile -- lauding corrective rape? That makes that person as much a sociopath as the criminal.

[mopinko]

85. yeah, i've seen

hey, it's punishment, it's prison, what do you expect?
and jokes about dropping the soap.

same folks likely assume that anyone who has been to prison has been destroyed and are to be avoided.

[obamanut2012]

89. And think everyone in prison is guilty

People who cheer corrective rape are psychopaths.

[mopinko]

90. and they manage to fly around here under the radar.

le sigh.

[BannonsLiver]

124. Agreed.

Now do people who mock and cheer the deaths of unvaccinated people. Because that seems pretty sick, too, and is infinitely more pervasive here than tasteless prison rape jokes.

[mopinko]

175. yeah, i'm not that happy about those comments, either.

[stopdiggin]

183. point. one doesn't justify the other

But we'd probably be better off with a lot less of both.

[Hortensis]

76. Agree entirely and thanks, Mopinko.

[North Shore Chicago]

77. Last weekend

a person commented about hoping someone would be "gang raped" in prison, I asked very nicely that comment was extremely inappropriate. The response was that I must be too sensitive.

[LuckyCharms]

82. Agree 100%. n/t

[mopinko]

87. good to see you back.

[LuckyCharms]

88. Thank you, mopinko. Good to see you as well and...

excellent OP.

[cally]

86. Thank you!!!

I often don't read the threads about new arrests or convictions because of this. RAPE IS NEVER FUNNY OR DESERVED!

[mopinko]

96. yeah, i skip a lot of them, too.

the general celebrations dont cheer me up. it's all fucking sad.
dont rly need constant reminders that we are a pathetic species.

[Wednesdays]

94. And, how do they know

the person they're cheering to be raped don't turn out becoming the rapIST!?

[mopinko]

104. it def builds new rapists.

the system we have is fucked enough w/o the extra ugly sauce.

[AngryOldDem]

97. Agreed.

And let me concur with the jury system comment. I’ve been away for awhile and since I’ve been back I’ve served on some juries, and the vagueness of the rules has made me opt out a few times. Otherwise, I vote with my conscience and best judgment.

ANY post that makes light of sexual violence should be removed.


ON EDIT: I’m pretty tolerant and I don’t alert often, but I just did. The guidelines are practically useless, IMO.

[intheflow]

100. You know what's depressing?

I've seen this very same OP posted at least 10 times on year here on DU, since I joined back in 2004. The people who think rape of any kind is appropriate to wish on others are assholes, and I'm sorry to see so many on DU so consistently. Thanks, mo.

[mopinko]

108. yup. it does take constant maintenance to keep things decent here. it's a sad fact.

but after everything i've seen here, i know very well that a big chunk of it is lurking magats.
i have my own fan club on the dark side, partly cuz the local magat likes to point out anything he finds newsworthy about me. he stalks me here. he's posted things from mental health support about my kids in that sewer. i know who these people are on the other side of the keyboard.

i cant ban them, but i can call them out.
i cant change them, but i want it known that they cant change me. glad many here get that.
i'm very happy for all the support in this thread.

[mopinko]

188. worth noting

several posts removed here. they werent noobs.
ppl showed their hands, and now they're on record.

[Scrivener7]

109. The cockroaches are coming out of the woodwork on this thread.

Sad that there are so many creeps even here.

[mopinko]

131. meh. it's just a couple.

and the jury got em.
i think it's been a good convo.

[Iggo]

182. It's good to turn the lights on every now and again.

[Ms. Toad]

117. Thankfully, I mssed whatever triggered this.

But I completely agree.

[mopinko]

132. it's been a trickle.

but there were 2 in a row in one of the magat arrest threads.

[Johnny2X2X]

118. Can't agree more

And more than just rape, prison violence is not a joking matter in any instance. Not a joke when a 1/6 terrorist gets beat up in prison, not a joke when a child molester gets beaten in prison.

You are either for humane conditions in prison or against them, it's not conditional. These terrorists shouldn't be assaulted, raped, or have feces thrown at them. I get it, they're anti American scum, but we want human conditions in prison for everyone.

[Cinnamonspice]

129. I agree.

Nobody deserves to be raped, not even the more vile people. Rape jokes are not funny.

[Caliman73]

139. It is part of the human condition, that we do need to work to change.

People have a visceral reaction to people they hate, who are engaged in cruelty, and ironically the mind goes to punishment and revenge.

This and the penis size/gun thing are wrapped up in tropes on the meaning of masculinity. Not only is anal rape painful, but it is humiliating because "you allowed your manhood to be taken". There are some who think that it is an "ultimate revenge" because of the physical and psychological destruction it unleashes on the victim, who "deserves it".

I agree that it isn't funny. It has been engrained however in the minds of many, mostly men, as something feared, and something that "the worst of the worst" deserve.

It is a mindset that should be challenged and changed.

[Bucky]

174. Someone on du woke me up to this about 10 or 12 years ago

When I've been a chastising people ever since not to drop "prison rape jokes" in the shower... I mean, into conversations

[Catherine Vincent]

176. Agree!

[PatrickforB]

180. Thank you. No, rape of any kind anywhere is NO JOKE.

It isn't.

[Ishoutandscream2]

181. K and R. Agreed

It’s disgusting to take glee in such a thing. We’re better than that.

[NullTuples]

185. Just adding another Thank You.