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Delta Variant Spreads as Easily as Chickenpox
July 29, 2021 at 9:10 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 58 Comments
https://politicalwire.com/2021/07/29/delta-variant-spreads-as-easily-as-chickenpox/
"SNIP.....
An internal CDC document says the delta variant of the coronavirus appears to cause more severe illness than earlier variants and spreads as easily as chickenpox, the Washington Post reports.
The document strikes an urgent note, revealing the agency knows it must revamp its public messaging to emphasize vaccination as the best defense against a variant so contagious that it acts almost like a different novel virus, leaping from target to target more swiftly than Ebola or the common cold.
.....SNIP"
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)So long, been good to know ya.
applegrove
(118,492 posts)every single person got it.
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)Considering the refusal by the GOP to allow any kind of mitigation (masks, closures, etc.), prepare for the medical system to be overwhelmed in many areas of the country.
By early Oct. we are going to be in a world of hurt.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)That's the second highest R0 rate of major infectious diseases. The only disease more infectious is Measles.
marybourg
(12,586 posts)that easily. Back before the vaxx, we sometimes had to work pretty hard to inoculate our kids against chickenpox by purposely exposing them to other kids with it. I had to send my daughter to sleep with her babysitter. It took 3 such sleepovers before she came down with a mild case. She then gave it to her younger sister who was allowed to play with her in hopes of innoculating her.
Now, measles, thats a different story. I dont remember anyone having to purposely expose their kids to measles. Everyone got measles naturally, unless you lived in a very isolated place. But if you didnt get it as a child, you could be in big trouble as an adult. To think of what parents had to go through to protect their children from disease, and now we have malevolent nincompoops refusing life- saving vaccinations.
applegrove
(118,492 posts)pox. So over years almost every child got it. That would be 1 in 10. Which is a huge percentage every year. If Delta is that bad god help us.
marybourg
(12,586 posts)of opportunities to expose them to it. Otherwise they might reach adulthood without having been innoculated to it.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Siblings were made to sleep in the room with me.
They had it within two days.
This was circa 1984-85.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)All my siblings and friends had it and my parents just decided to expose me just to get the inevitable over with, but I never came down with it. I had like 2 or 3 little itchy bumps and that was it. So maybe that was CP, but it was such a mild case so as to be almost non-existent.
applegrove
(118,492 posts)rarely let us stay home from school. That would not go over well these days. I can barely remember having chicken pox. I don't know how old I was.
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)The school literally closed for a week because there were almost no students who didn't have it!
It was miserable. I was scratching and crying and bleeding and not sleeping at all for a whole week. AND because I had chickenpox, I'm at risk for shingles now. Fuck that.
haele
(12,640 posts)Parents would send all the kids out for chicken pox parties to try to get all the kids in the family to be sick at the same time as young as possible, so as to reduce the chance of one of them getting the pox if one hadn't gotten it yet, or if they had gotten it, they won't get shingles later on. The older siblings typically suffered worse in large families.
Subsequent kids would not go to these parties, and would often be kept out of school to ensure that "one time" run through the family would be it.
Chicken pox is worse the older you are, it could be fatal for an adult.
I had a mild case that lasted 3 days; my younger brother was down for two weeks.
If delta COVID is as contagious as chicken pox, a "COVID" party could be fatal to 1 in 20 participants.
Haele
applegrove
(118,492 posts)brick like rash on the side of my abdomen that hurt when I brushed my had over it lightly. So I think you can get both.
underpants
(182,621 posts)Theyve done that with chickenpox and measles.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I seem to remember some idiots having "Covid parties" back in the earlier days of the pandemic. Idiots.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)I'm not surprised to hear that the Delta variant is more contagious than originally thought as well as more serious. The anecdotal stories out there of so many breakthrough infections--people talking about every member of their family getting infected even though all are vaccinated, or everyone in an office being infected, including those vaccinated--it just seems there were a lot more breakout infections than "rare". I think symptoms are more severe in both vaccinated and unvaccinated too. It's just that if you are vaccinated you will avoid the hospital, and if you aren't vaccinated then god help you.
I can guarantee you that the CDC will reverse their initial stance that booster shots aren't needed. I think they know already that booster shots are needed but are holding back out of concern that there won't be enough shots for those still unvaccinated. I say screw that...if people aren't going to get the vaccine don't punish those who did the right thing and want to remain protected.
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)Iowa is about to throw out 200k+ doses at the end of August.
That could be a lot of booster.
womanofthehills
(8,661 posts)Pfizer just said their vaccines last about 6 months so this is necessary.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)I got my 2nd shot 2/26/2021, so Im right at the 6 month mark. Will be 62 in August too.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)LisaL
(44,972 posts)NT