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Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 05:44 PM Jul 2021

Navy Formally Accuses Sailor Of Starting The Fire That Destroyed The USS Bonhomme Richard

The U.S. Navy will begin preliminary hearings to determine if it will bring arson charges against a sailor accused of starting the 2020 fire that damaged the amphibious assault ship USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6) so extensively it had to be scrapped. During the Article 32 preliminary hearing, an officer will review all of the available evidence before determining whether or not charges should be formally referred against the accused. The sailor has not yet been identified.

A media statement issued to Task and Purpose’s Jared Keller from Commander Sean Robertson, spokesperson of the U.S. 3rd Fleet, reads:

On July 29, charges under the Uniform Code of Military Justice [UCMJ] were brought forth against a Navy Sailor in response to evidence found during the criminal investigation into the fire started on USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6) on July 12, 2020. Evidence collected during the investigation is sufficient to direct a preliminary hearing with due process under the military justice system. The Sailor was a member of Bonhomme Richard’s crew at the time and is accused of starting the fire.

Vice Adm. Steve Koehler, commander, U.S. 3rd Fleet is considering court-martial charges and has directed a preliminary hearing at which an impartial hearing officer will make determinations and recommendations required by the UCMJ prior to any further trial proceedings - including whether or not there is probable cause to believe an offense has been committed and to offer a recommendation as to the disposition of the case.


https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41759/navy-formally-accuses-sailor-of-starting-the-fire-that-destroyed-the-uss-bonhomme-richard
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I'm a Navy brat, and this fire really hurt my heart. Just the thought that it could be arson, especially if intentional, hurts worse.

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Navy Formally Accuses Sailor Of Starting The Fire That Destroyed The USS Bonhomme Richard (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 OP
$30 million to scrap it. BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #1
Was he a fireman? Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #2
The article just says he is a sailor... BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #3
he will die a sailor.... getagrip_already Jul 2021 #5
Every sailor a firefighter Brother Buzz Jul 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #6
But is there not a particular class or rank Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #7
A pharmacist mate, or any other specialist is taught firefighting FIRST Brother Buzz Jul 2021 #8
There is a designation "fireman" in the Navy gladium et scutum Jul 2021 #10
Thank you Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #12
Hurts this regular 4 yr enlisted, too UTUSN Jul 2021 #9
I smell a rat. Archae Jul 2021 #11
Except I think this is entirely plausible. Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #13

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
1. $30 million to scrap it.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 05:51 PM
Jul 2021

"The emails also revealed that several other smaller fires broke out aboard three other San Diego-based ships in the 15 months leading up to the fire that eventually saw the Bonhomme Richard scrapped: a March 2019 fire on the USS Boxer (LHD-4) Wasp-class amphibious assault ship; one aboard the Avenger-class mine countermeasures ship USS Champion (MCM-4) in November 2019; and a March 2020 fire on the USS Harpers Ferry (LSD-49), the lead ship of the Harpers Ferry class of dock landing ships. It’s unknown if the suspect in the Bonhomme Richard fire was in any way involved with those other fires."

I wonder if he started these other fires too.

getagrip_already

(14,613 posts)
5. he will die a sailor....
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jul 2021

When is yet to be determined, but if they convict him he will retain a duty status for the duration of his incarceration, which will likely be life (though execution is one of the punishments he could get).

Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #4)

Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
7. But is there not a particular class or rank
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 06:14 PM
Jul 2021

or designation of "fireman" as there is for medics or pharmacist mates or other specialists? I ask because rather often in civilian life it's found that volunteer or even regular firefighters have set fires just for the "thrill" of it and so they can be "heroes" or something

Brother Buzz

(36,364 posts)
8. A pharmacist mate, or any other specialist is taught firefighting FIRST
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jul 2021

The worst threat onboard a ship is fire, and when a fire breaks out every sailor becomes a firefighter.

gladium et scutum

(806 posts)
10. There is a designation "fireman" in the Navy
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 07:35 AM
Jul 2021

It is a designation for junior non rated (E-1 to E-3) personnel in the engineering departments. There is no specific rating for fire fighters .Damage Controlman probably comes the closest. They normally are in charge of the fire parties at GQ or in-port duty sections. But they also work on watertight integrity, plumbing, minor weld repairs when needed.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
12. Thank you
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 04:35 PM
Jul 2021

That's what I was asking. I knew about firefighting training from my dad's memoir. He talks about in in the part where his ship was kamikazied. But I also seemed to remember there being a specific designation and I was too lazy to go find the book.

Archae

(46,300 posts)
11. I smell a rat.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:36 AM
Jul 2021

I posted in another thread this might be "USS Iowa 2.0" because remember that fiasco?

The Navy made up that wild claim about a sailor killing himself and everybody in that turret, because they refused to admit it was due to poor training and shoddy supplies.

Biggest difference here is the sailor in question this time is very much alive.

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