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Two travellers who arrived in Toronto from the United States have been fined for providing fake COVID-19 proof of vaccination documents and lying about pre-departure tests.
The Public Health Agency of Canada says the travellers also didnt comply with requirements to stay at a government-authorized hotel or to get tested upon arrival.
The agency says in a news release Friday that the travellers arrived last week and have been handed four fines totalling $19,720 each.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/07/30/two-travellers-from-us-fined-20000-each-for-fake-vaccination-documents.html
DFW
(54,378 posts)How could these idiots think the Canadians were unprepared for such attempts, or not expecting them?
I hope they are kept locked up until their relatives wire the money, and then locked out of Canada for two years.
Because of two arrogant jerks, a lot of Canadians will look at all visitors from the States as potential vaxx-frauds.
Delmette2.0
(4,165 posts)I wonder how they got caught?
DFW
(54,378 posts)But if their docs were scanned, and the scans later verified, sooner or later something was going to go wronga QR code that turned out be a Five Guys menu in Kankakee, or whatever.
Delmette2.0
(4,165 posts)Pinback
(12,155 posts)Five Guys burgers contain Clorox. Or so Ive been hearing from some very smart people.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)See, Im smart!
DFW
(54,378 posts)I have serious cholesterol issues, so I haven't had a beef hamburger in over 20 years.
Pinback
(12,155 posts)A family history of heart trouble and tendencies in that direction myself have led me to make several dietary adjustments over the years.
But I couldnt resist the lure of a bleach quip.
DFW
(54,378 posts)Grokenstein
(5,723 posts)for fear of the tracking device in every dose!!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Seriously, how could Canada's 35+ million not know what's going on in the U.S.? A bunch of our friends each winter in Florida come down from Canada -- after carefully checking their chances of living to return home, of course.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Mins boggling at the national level though.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)this is worse than a meltdown Karen
StClone
(11,683 posts)But they will be punished, unlike the Marigold Manchild.
spanone
(135,831 posts)calimary
(81,265 posts)Has such a nice ring to it!
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)Just because they didn't take the Covid pandemic seriously they assumed no one else would.
Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)Because, you know, America!
Idiots.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)MAGAt hats and Trump flags flying on the back of their pick-em-up trucks.
That, and when the Border Control Officers asked them, "where were you born", they said. "from between my Momma's legs".
Not very bright, Trump's cult.
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WHITT
(2,868 posts)Good work.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)... are deportables!
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... not those who can't but those who don't want to and screw it up for everyone else.
Nittersing
(6,361 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)One that officials could not tell the documents were fake immediately before they were allowed in and two that they are letting unvaccinated people in at all without proof of a valid medical excuse. It seems like they got off easy as well since there could have been a six month jail term and 750,000 fines.
But I am glad they were fined etc.
ShazzieB
(16,396 posts)They aren't just letting the unvaxxed in willy-nilly:
Those who are not fully vaccinated are still required to stay for three days at a government-approved hotel, quarantine for 14 days and undergo tests pre-departure, post-arrival and eight days later.
These chuckle heads tried to circumvent the rules for unvaxxed visitors (probably because it was too inconvenient for their little snowflake asses :eyes and use fake documentation to pose as having been vaccinated.
I'm glad that they were caught and the fine is high enough to sting, but I sure hope they weren't positive for covid (especially delta) when they crossed the border.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They dont believe in vaccines or vaccine passports, but they try to fake that they have both. Took a lot more effort than getting the damn shot(s).
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)I am surprised they are letting non vaxed people in at all even with requirements such as testing etc. because those can fail obviously. I dont think is a good idea. Unvaxed people with no valid medical excuse not to be vaxed should not be allowed in imo. Let them get vaxed first, then they can travel there.
70sEraVet
(3,501 posts)Put their kids in cages and send them back across the border WITHOUT their kids, and no way for them to know where their kids are!
ShazzieB
(16,396 posts)There's no reason to expect our Canadian friends to lower themselves to the Former Guy's level!
Besides, we all know that hae way too much class for that!
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)What to choose? What to choose?
Bev54
(10,052 posts)that will be almost $40,000 but it is CDN $ so it is less, I think they should have charged them in American dollars.
dflprincess
(28,078 posts)at today's exchange rate it's just over $16,000 (USF) each.
Bev54
(10,052 posts)dflprincess
(28,078 posts)I corrected to 16K each, which is about what 20K Canadian is equal to.
LeftInTX
(25,328 posts)crickets
(25,979 posts)bahboo
(16,339 posts)C Moon
(12,213 posts)I bet they had a sly grin as they passed off the fake docs.
Rhiannon12866
(205,339 posts)Paying an enormous fine was preferable than getting a free vaccine - like others they've gotten all their lives - that could save their lives!
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)Have them taxidermied, and placed in the Royal Ontario Museum 'Anthropology' wing, right next to the Neanderthal display.
Small cranium with a sloped forehead, lanter-jawed, wide nose with flared nostrils, stooped posture, knuckles dragging on the ground, and no discernible sex organs.
Yes, Canada, keep them as a cautionary example for your children, as to what can happen if they don't stay in school and they vote for the Conservative Party of Canada.
Please, and thank you.
llmart
(15,539 posts)This is just one more reason why I love Canadians.
wnylib
(21,463 posts)on August 9th and Biden is holding out for August 23.
So how were these Ameticans crossing into Canada?
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)peppertree
(21,635 posts)In Argentina, a man (Santiago Solans Portillo, 29) who spent time in Florida was caught not only coming back with the Delta variant - but with a fake PCR test.
Around 200 were exposed on the plane - plus however many they exposed Covid to.
This was in May, as Argentina was in the throes of a massive wave of the Manaus variant - which is a lot like the Delta.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/traveler-faked-coronavirus-certificate-fly-130253390.html
róisín_dubh
(11,794 posts)to figure out how I get cleared for travel. I'm supposed to fly back to the US on the 9th. I tested positive for COVID (though fully vaxxed) and will complete my mandatory 10-day isolation on Monday. I have been advised not to attempt re-testing for travel because of false positives. Instead, the CDC accepts a letter from a healthcare provider or public health official, but...my GP in England cannot provide one and the NHS doesn't seem to give them out either
The US Embassy told me to take a lateral flow.
I'm happy to stay here forever, but I suspect my boss will not appreciate this at all. Plus I do need to go back to the US for a few reasons.
Still, I won't forge documents. I guess I'll get back eventually.
wryter2000
(46,045 posts)Their office can help run interference with federal agencies.
róisín_dubh
(11,794 posts)Maybe I'll email Manchin instead. I'm hoping the airline will take a letter from my doctor in the US.
A ray of hope is that I did an at-home test this morning and was negative. But I don't want to wait until the last minute at the airport and then have a problem.
MerryBlooms
(11,769 posts)charged and fined here in the US? Seems to me they should also be held accountable under our US COVID-19 fake vax card, laws and penalties.
crickets
(25,979 posts)Lasher
(27,597 posts)The feds should meet them at the gate when they return.
thinkingagain
(906 posts)Charging them with a federal felony.
Sure that it wont happen. But making fake Medical records should be especially to cross a international border.
Im just getting sick and tired of the bull crap and if fines and jail or prison is what it takes for liars and cheaters then so be it. To me they are worse than someone who just wont get the shot for whatever reason that is bad enough possibly spreading death but to add lies and fake documents on top. Grrrrr
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,672 posts)it's the only thing they will understand.
zuul
(14,624 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)whopis01
(3,514 posts)Only that they arrived in Canada from the US.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Canada has the right climate for a Gulag.
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)if this keeps happening!
I expect that couple arrived in Toronto by plane. Land crossings for non-essential visits are a no-no and they would have been turned back immediately.
wryter2000
(46,045 posts)I hope they didnt infect anyone while they were there.
PatrickforB
(14,574 posts)any of them understand.
For the life of me, I just don't get how refusing to take a vaccine makes 'Murika grate agin.'
New Breed Leader
(623 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)Canada does not open to fully vaccinated Americans until Aug 9. The people in the article crossed from the US but were either Canadian citizens or non Canadians who live in Canada.
Canada's vaccine strategy was different than ours. I believe they concentrated on first dose as many as possible then worry about the 2nd. They should hit Trudeau's goal of 75% fully vaxxed Canadians by the time the borders open to American travelers.
LeftInTX
(25,328 posts)In an email to Newsweek, the Public Health Agency of Canada said the travelers were Canadian citizens. It said the incidents the government described Friday "are the only instances since July 5th of fraudulent documents detected at the border."
https://www.newsweek.com/us-travelers-hit-20k-fine-falsifying-international-vaccination-documents-1614839
Who knows..
marble falls
(57,081 posts)... Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are the right team for these times. Now we begin holding people accountable.
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)Ha Ha!
CaptainTruth
(6,591 posts)barbtries
(28,794 posts)they could get famous.
Grins
(7,217 posts)Just sayin .
samplegirl
(11,477 posts)BlueWavePsych
(2,635 posts)Nevilledog
(51,104 posts)Link to tweet
Jason Linkins
@dceiver
fuck aboot and find oot
Ana Cabrera
@AnaCabrera
NEW: Two travelers from the US fined nearly $20K each for providing false vaccination information to Canadian authorities, according to the Public Health Agency of Canada.
7:29 PM · Jul 31, 2021