The "secret plan" for August 13th?

[kentuck]

They have dropped hints in the last week or two. For example, Mark Meadows talking about meetings at the Bedminster Golf Club with Trump and "Cabinet members". What do you think he meant by that?

Trump had another meeting with some third-string Republicans yesterday at the same golf course. A dollar to a donut that they talked about witnesses refusing subpoenas before the Select Committee?

Their primary aim is to discredit the Select Committee and to attack Nancy Pelosi and Liz Cheney while doing so.

In a few days, Trump will announce that Republicans cannot support Joe Biden or the present government in Washington. By then, he will have talked to many influential Republicans, including Congressmen and Senators, and will advise them that if they wish to retain their seats, they will need to denounce the last election as illegitimate or rigged. Most of these meetings will likely take place at this same golf course?

By August the 13th, Trump and his "Republican" followers will be ready to announce that they are representing a "government in exile". They will oppose everything coming from this illegitimate White House. Do not believe anything that comes from the "fake news" or from the RINOs. If it doesn't come directly from Trump or his "Cabinet", it cannot be believed.

This is the modus operandi.

[brooklynite]

1. That is a strategically complex idea, which means Trump isn't doing it.

You’re reading too much into Trump’s regular ranting. Nobody who hasn’t been saying the election was “Stolen” will be saying it later this month.

[kentuck]

3. It's not that complex.

But it's not checkers.

[Funtatlaguy]

16. What will happen "later this month"?

[brooklynite]

25. The OP is claiming a strategy built around Mike Lindell's latest crackpot theory...

Lindell is holding a non-public “cyber security conference” August 11-13 at which his “experts” will “prove” the election was stolen by internet hacking of all the voting machine. There isn’t one. Come August 13, nothing will have changed and the Trump faithful will jump to the next date target.

[Volaris]

31. That what I was gonna suggest. At his core, trump is an idiot, he doesnt know anything.

He has an animal instinct for manipulation, but that's not he same thing.

[LakeArenal]

2. That will fail.

Trump failed to pocket the military and he failed to pocket the Supreme Court.

Every state has confirmed JB President.

[kentuck]

4. I suppose that is why he was so pissed that they passed the Infrastructure bill?

Over his objections. He was testing their loyalty.

[DeeDeeNY]

5. Government in exile?

I think that may qualify as treason.

[kentuck]

9. Treason?

What's that?

He only cares that his supporters see him as the "President", and not Joe Biden. He doesn't care about the Supreme Court or the Generals. He doesn't need them. They have shown they will do nothing.

[Maru Kitteh]

22. Not unless the United States declares war upon them.

Which, btw, I think would be awesome, but it's not going to happen.

So no, not treason.

[Klaralven]

24. Not treason, but if involving the use of force to overthrow the government, it would be sedition

[GoodRaisin]

78. More like fantasy.

"Alternative Government" for his magats.

[RKP5637]

6. Throw the MF'er in jail for inciting an overthrow of the US government. n/t

[Eliot Rosewater]

36. He is a republican, put simply the rules and laws dont apply to them the same way

they apply to patriots or democrats.

A con has to do 100 violations to be held accountable, a dem has to do one.

Something like that. Mainly because if a democrat puts his feet on a desk the MEDIA will have heads exploding everywhere...a con can openly take the side of the KGB over the CIA and very little will be said by the media.

[RKP5637]

73. Sadly, quite true. The GOP has some implied immunity to everything thanks to Fox News and

other outfits even worse.

[LiberalFighter]

7. If any Republican supports the exiled government they should not be allowed in Congress.

[BigmanPigman]

8. When I read Aug. 13th I looked at my calendar....

My guess was correct, it is FRIDAY the 13th. Bad luck day

[Baitball Blogger]

10. Can we remove his Supreme Court picks if they

Plan to split up this country.

[Haggard Celine]

11. You mean Bedminster?

That's the name of his golf club in NJ.

[kentuck]

12. Thanks!

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Fixed.

Otherwise known as the new Trump White House. (To his supporters)

[obamanut2012]

29. No, it isn't known as that

[Maraya1969]

13. If they are in "Exile" they can't be paid right? And their health benefits stop

and a bunch of other fancy perks that most of them don't deserve.

[The Magistrate]

14. That Would Be Formal Insurrection, Sir

It could, and would, be quashed. The military leadership has been quite clear about adherence to Constitutional process. Sad that we have to weigh a general's sentiments, but that is where we are now, and have been since last December.

[kentuck]

18. Sir, it will only succeed if we are not aware of what is happening.

What would happen if he had his supporters and most of the Republican establishment behind him, if he declared a "government in exile"?

What would Merrick Garland and the DOJ do? What would the Generals do? I suspect they would do what they are doing presently? Just talk about it.

Perhaps I am way too cynical?

[The Magistrate]

19. It's Hard To See It Being Treated With Inaction, Sir

There are some bright lines, and setting yourself up as an alternative government is one of them.

[kentuck]

23. Sir, per his usual modus operandi...

He will not say it himself. He will let someone like a Mark Meadows call it that. He will let One America News call it that. He will let "his people" believe it, while never having to say it himself. His supporters are ready and prepared for a "government in exile". He likes being called "dear Leader".

[Justice matters.]

37. Meadows or another crazy sycophant can call it anything they want...

but having no department under their fake maladministration would lead them nowhere.

No stupid policy, no budget, nothing.

[C_U_L8R]

15. So, it's a conspiracy

Just a little more evidence will hang them.

Do they realize they’re the bad guys in this saga?

[Turbineguy]

17. His problem is

how does he accomplish that without getting arrested?

[malaise]

20. This will not happen

The Slobfather and his fake cabinet will soon suffer the consequences of their failed coup

[First Speaker]

44. No, it won't...but they're quite capable of causing serious damage to the country...

...even *some* sort of half-assed action on the 13th could, at the least, polarize the country further, and further radicalize the GOP. No, they can't "seize power"...but they can make defending their action--whatever the fuck it may be--a litmus test for all GOP candidates. That would be bad enough.

[malaise]

48. They will try but thankfully none of his goons are in charge of any Federal agency

and he is being watched carefully. Hopefully the cult are hearing from their friends that none of the ReTHUG money will pay for their lawyers fees. Just wait for the MAGats to turn on them because all they will do is pretend they care by trying shit like showing up at prisons for media attention. They won't provide a dime for their base in the lock ups because if they do...there will be more consequences.

[kentuck]

52. I think he believes so long as he can divide the country along Party lines...

Nothing can be done. No one can hold him accountable for anything. Nobody would dare charge him with any crimes.

In that regard, he is holding the country hostage.

It seems to have worked for him up to this point.

I think it is his plan to make his followers believe he is the head of a government in exile because their votes were stolen and the election was rigged.

I think this is "their" secret plan but I do not believe it will work.

[Captain Zero]

63. DeJoy is still in charge at the USPS

Maybe they will mount a flotilla of mail trucks to storm the Pentagon?

[malaise]

64. Good point but he's harder to remove than most of the others

His time will come - hope he ends up in prison

[kentuck]

66. I have always loved the US Postal Service but...

...it has really gone downhill since the criminal has been in charge.

[malaise]

67. I have more than enough proof

He destroyed it

[Mr.Bill]

59. The more radical they get

the smaller their minority becomes.

[bucolic_frolic]

26. Trump has attempted to win at the ballot box, in the courts, and tried to overthrow Congress

So I'm expecting a Trifecta, but wondering what eviction of the current President from the White House would entail.

It's just a thought, but seriously, nothing is too outrageous or unimaginable with TFG Trump.

[Klaralven]

27. Advanced World War I Tactics with General Melchett

&list=RDAsXKS8Nyu8Q&start_radio=1

[obamanut2012]

28. If they do that, they will be arrested

And imprisoned. Mark Meadows should be brought in for questioning now.

[dutch777]

30. Trump is just making sure his NJ resort is getting enough bookings

Any planning or supporting of anything that Trump is now associated with is just to increase his business income. Simple plan being funded by the simple minded.

[JoeOtterbein]

61. Good point...

...thanks for posting it.

[DFW]

32. Even if they storm the Capitol with 10,000 militia terrorists

The election was certified as legit under the constitution, which they can try to violate, but they can‘t repeal it.

So even if they want to install Trump or Chuck Norris or Ted Nugent as President, they can‘t do it, especially after the bloodbath that will ensue if they try.

[AverageOldGuy]

33. Of course, the big question is:

How many of those to whom Trump talks will fall in line with him, and, are they Republicans who will make any difference?

Here in Virginia, the Republican gubernatorial candidate is a political newcomer. He came from The Carlyle Group where he made a few zillion $$ buying companies, striping them, shipping jobs overseas. When he was nominated, Trump was first to endorse him and he is playing up the Trump endorsement. Virginia has not elected a Republican for the past two election cycles, and Democrat took over the General Assembly two years ago. While the Democrat likely will be elected governor, we VA Dems are working our asses off to win.

We won't know until Nov, but, if the Repub loses in VA, it won't do Trump any good.

[orwell]

34. Still taking "Loser 45" seriously?

I guess TFG still has you under his spell.

I could care less what the asshole thinks or what any of his minions think.

He's a loser and his minions are morons.

We are in a new era...the end of Bullshit!

[kentuck]

41. He doesn't care what you or I think.

He is only concerned with what his base thinks.

Of course, he will be nothing officially. But, what will his followers believe? Will they continue to believe that he is the true President? That the election was rigged?

In so doing, Trump maintains control of the Republican Party and his cult. Also, he maintains control over the scam of stealing money from the suckers.

It is not a trivial matter.

We shall see the "plan" more clearly in the days ahead.

[thenelm1]

70. Laugh at him if you must, but blithely dismissing what may possibly be a real attempt to...

overthrow the duly elected President/gov't, even given the penchant of this of this motley crew to royally screw up everything they touch, and in plain sight? This needs to be taken seriously. They are promoting sedition at the very least. And for who? This crazy mofo? One would hope that the security apparatus in this country is taking the threat seriously at some level. (And no, they aren't about to broadcast to us, the country at large, what they know or their assessment of the actual threat and their plan to thwart it.) Dump is a clown. We all know it. Yet somehow we all underestimated this fool once, and he somehow ascended to the presidency in 2015. "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." Do not underestimate this would be King - or more to the point, the monied interests that are the Kingmakers. Doing so is at our own peril.

[AverageOldGuy]

35. Meanwhile . . .

We live in rural VA. Wife has a doc's appointment two hours away in Richmond, early afternoon, Friday, August 13.

My county and a couple of the counties through which we pass to get to/from Richmond are Trump country . . . and I have BIDEN bumper stickers on my vehicle.

If they start any shit on August 13, out of an abundance of caution, we are going to/from the doc's office heavily armed . . . this is not a joke . . . will have semi-auto pistols, pump 12 gauge, and AR-15 in case we run into any Trumpsters who want a civil war.

[Justice matters.]

39. Don't forget a good smartphone with a direct call to 911

just in case they've got grenades or sh!t like that.

[global1]

38. If We Let The Get Away With This Plan....

then maybe we deserve it.

This is why we need to hold these criminals accountable.

Give them and inch and they'll take a mile.

They got a taste of a coup on 1/6 and they learned what they did wrong and will make corrections the next time.

[Justice matters.]

40. People should alert the Capitol Police Department and...

the United State Secret Service to make sure they'll be ready this time. (Hoping the FBI already did.)

[kentuck]

42. I would not expect any type of planned violence..

It is more of a propaganda strategy, in my opinion.

[David__77]

43. That doesn't sound far fetched.

Other than political packaging, it sounds like a “shadow cabinet.”

[keithbvadu2]

45. Lin Wood: Trump has secret military backchannel to authorize nuclear strikes

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017656338

Lin Wood: Trump has secret military backchannel to authorize nuclear strikes

[greenjar_01]

46. You sound a bit giddy, I have to say

[dflprincess]

47. Any current Member of Congress who would support a farce like this

needs to be stripped of their committee assignments and, if possible, expelled, and impeached for violating their oath.

[kentuck]

50. Isn't that about where most of them are right now?

They are not in touch with reality.

[dflprincess]

51. Good point.

Though I don't know if that many of them have done something quite as overt as this would be.

[kentuck]

54. I think they already have.

135 voted against certifying Joe Biden for President. After the violent insurrection!

They know they are guilty of sedition. They have no choice but to pretend it never happened. To deny reality. They cannot handle the truth.

[Aussie105]

53. There are bigger questions, surely?

Why hasn't the GOP been marked as a terrorist organization and why isn't it treated as such, why hasn't Trump faced the music for Un-American activities and sedition, collusion with the enemy, etc?

There is no such thing as a 'Government in exile' on American soil, now if Trump was in Mexico, or France, and wanted to declare himself such, he could. And should.
As is, Trump lost the election. There is no way he can have any pretense at being an alternate semi-legitimate government.


The head of the snake . . .

Honestly, Trump needs to be neutered. Too many still follow him, don't see him for what he is.

If it is Al Capone style, through tax evasion, it's a fairly weak avenue, but it would have to do.

Once he is locked up, all the follower snakes will slither away and deny their own history.

[malaise]

55. Excellent post

He is the head of the snake

[kentuck]

56. So long as the country is divided and they refuse to accept the facts about what happened...

...on January 6th, it will not be possible for one Party to hold another Party accountable. They understand that.

In order to hold Trump and his confederates accountable, there would need to be members from both Parties that agree to a verifiable reality.

It is simply not possible to jail political opponents unless there is a consensus of the crime.

[RKP5637]

74. Many, millions in America, need a crash course on what a sociopath is and their modus operandi. n/t

[CrackityJones75]

57. They always do this.

The always… ALWAYS accuse others of doing exactly what they are guilty of or plan ing to be guilty of in the future.

In this regard think back to when they were accusing Obama of running a deep state shadow government. So yeah of course they are going to try this. They will fail miserably but nonetheless they will try. If even jist to grift more money.

[kentuck]

58. The entire plan is dependent upon all the sycophants refusing to obey subpoenas.

Once that hand is played, it is a whole new ballgame.

It depends on how aggressive the DOJ will be in addressing the problem.

Hopefully, the rule of law will prevail. Subpoenas from the US Congress must be obeyed or there is no rule of law.

[brooklynite]

60. The won't refuse subpoenas

It doesn't matter what Trump people did when he was President; he's not and the Justice Dept/US Marshalls/Sergeant at Arms of the House won't refuse to enforce the subpoenas.

[kentuck]

62. I hope you are right about that.

Common sense would suggest they would cooperate with any subpoenas.

But, if they believe their argument is strong enough to persuade their "half" that the requests are not legitimate because the election was not "legitimate", they may choose to fight it out in court?

They have ignored the laws for so long, it is difficult to imagine the laws of this country ever working as they did before.

[brooklynite]

65. No Court will hear the case.

Discounting a legitimately issued subpoena would put the entire civil court system at risk.

[kentuck]

68. Why were they able to ignore the subpoenas from Congress in the last few years?

Should the Congress have done something differently?

[brooklynite]

72. Because the Trump DOJ and Executive Departments wouldn't enforce the subpoenas.

[kentuck]

75. Great damage to our justice system...

...and great encouragement to criminals that still believe they can get away with anything.

[brooklynite]

77. And who are going to receive a rude surprise when the new DOJ knocks on their door.

[ShazamIam]

69. It is a real threat to our anti-government conservative billionaires, they will loose so much money

and political power if democracy prevails. I agree we are in very dangerous times and I think the billionaires are desperate enough to try to whip up another violent attack by their cultish militias.

Here is an online recruiting site for militias set up in 2021.
https://americanmilitiaassociation.com/groups/

This is a list from SPLC, Southern Poverty Law Center, it is titled, hate groups but includes the known by them militias.

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

edit to add: https://militia.watch/ but I don't know anything about the site owners.

[scipan]

71. So what? Not much different than what they're doing now.

It will clarify the position of the repukes to everyone else.

[orangecrush]

76. Let him keep pushing his luck.

He will be the first former president put in jail.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

79. All of this hype and bluster...

is just to keep the Grift-O-Matic chugging away.

Trump's not going to do shit.

He just want those nickels to keep flowing in from his brainwashed sheep.