49 people who were fully vaccinated have died of COVID in N.J. Here's what we know.

[Klaralven]

There have been 49 fully vaccinated people in New Jersey who have died from the coronavirus through July 12, state health officials told NJ Advance Media on Wednesday.

More than half of those who died had at least one underlying medical condition, according to Donna Leusner, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Health.

The number of deaths has increased since Gov. Phil Murphy announced on Monday that there had been 31 fully vaccinated people who died of COVID through June 28. The latest number includes cases through July 12, the latest data available, Leusner said.

All of the deaths were people over age 50, with 30 of them over age 80. Thirteen of the deaths were people between the ages of 65 and 79, and six were between the ages of 50 and 64, Leusner said.

Of the 27 deaths of people with underlying conditions, 17 had cardiovascular disease, seven had diabetes and nine had cancer or other immunocompromised conditions, she said. Five had chronic lung conditions, three had chronic kidney disease, one had chronic liver disease and five others are listed as “other chronic diseases.” Some of the people who died had more than one underlying condition.

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/07/49-people-who-were-fully-vaccinated-have-died-of-covid-in-nj-heres-what-we-know.html

Story as of July 25.

[elleng]

1. 30 of them over age 80

[bamagal62]

5. And, that age group probably got the vaccine at the beginning.

Time for some boosters!

[elleng]

17. as did I.

No side-issues, but will be happy to get booster.

[Lucinda]

2. ...

[lagomorph777]

59. 49 out of 5.2 million, or 0.00006% !!! Freaking amazing success! Deceptive headline.

Last edited Mon Aug 2, 2021, 09:37 AM - Edit history (1)

The headline is apparently meant to scare people by omitting the main point.

But if you don't want to be part of the 0.00006%, vax AND mask.

[appalachiablue]

3. Very sad, thanks for sharing this article.

[FarPoint]

4. Let's just put the facts on the table...

We did not meet our vaccination window of opportunity to reach herd immunity....This virus is like the Borg in Star Trek...this virus adapts and comes on much more vicious, resilient and has no mercy, unforgiving...it will find a host.

Get a vaccine series plus a mask is now needed...with ramping up 100 million more vaccines into arms...full set....might help...

[mchill]

6. Looking like we need boosters after 5 months now

Per new Israeli info. Would be nice to know when those who died in this article were vaccinated though those over 65 could avail themselves of the vaccine by mid-January or earlier if in skilled nursing facilities. Teacher could also get earlier.

[LisaL]

7. We need boosters but there seem to be no plans.

We are being told we don't need boosters at the moment. Other countries are already giving out boosters or making plans to do so.

[James48]

32. The data does not yet indicate boosters

Are necessary. Israel is making a 3rd booster to some to those over age 60. Data is being compiled from those- but there isn’t data yet saying either that a 3rd booster reduces deaths or disease. Let’s wait and follow the data, shall we?

[LisaL]

33. While we wait, people will start getting sick and dying.

It's not just Israel that is giving out boosters. UK and Germany will do it also. Booster is supposed to be given after 6 months (per Pfizer). How long are we supposed to wait?

[James48]

35. You don't know "the booster is supposed to be given at six months".

The FDA has not given emergency use authorization for boosters. The FDA has asked Pfizer for data to support a third injection, but so far, there is no data yet.
Don’t make up information that isn’t true.

[LisaL]

37. I clearly stated that booster has to be given at 6 months per Pfizer.

I know FDA has not given any emergency approval for boosters-isn't that the point? We have people who got vaccinated more than 6 months ago.
There are not even plans to give out boosters, while other countries are already doing it.
I really doubt our data on how long vaccination is efficient is somehow going to end up being different from Israel, UK or Germany.

[James48]

38. Facts.

Germany isn’t giving out boosters yet. Germany has only said it MAY need them next year.

The UK is limiting to a control group of 3,000, to be injected by September. As of last week, the Uk had not yet given anyone a third injection.

Israel is planning also to do just a small group, not everyone. Only those who are willing to go to participate in the research project.

It isn’t yet determined by ANYONE that a third dose is logical, safe or effective. Please stick only with verified facts.

[LisaL]

39. Israel is giving it to anyone over 60. Not a small group.

"JERUSALEM, July 29 (Reuters) - Israeli President Isaac Herzog received a third shot of coronavirus vaccine on Friday, kicking off a campaign to give booster doses to people aged over 60 as part of efforts to slow the spread of the highly contagious Delta variant."

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-president-launches-drive-give-third-covid-19-shot-over-60s-2021-07-30/

[mchill]

69. Probably going to happen here by Sept or Oct

Hope not too late.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/02/dr-scott-gottlieb-sees-covid-boosters-for-vulnerable-people-in-us-as-early-as-september.html

[FarPoint]

61. That thought about getting the Booster...

You have me scratching my head...I got my first dose of Moderna December 24, 2020....I'm into 7 months now...

[mchill]

70. How old are you?

I think the 5 months applies more to those over 60 and definitely immunocompromised.

[FarPoint]

71. I'm a first responder RN...

Still working IV specialty infusions/ immune compromised folks and covid-19 clients...I got my first vaccine the first day offered was for first responders such as myself..

[mchill]

72. I've heard those over 60 and immunocompromised

Will likely get boosters in Sept or Oct (retired FDA official testifying), but my guess they will likely look at date of initial vaccinations and whether a medical worker too. This is all speculation now and I heard the USA weighing the concern for providing vaccines to third world versus a booster here. Somewhere else I heard they’ve stockpiled enough for a booster for those over 60 and immunocompromised.

[Rhiannon12866]

45. That's it exactly! Thanks!

[Larissa]

50. Your description is dead on

. . . and chilling. When we've dicked around deciding what to do, the virus gets busy reinventing itself like the shape-shifter in the sci-fi flick, "The Thing." I received my vaccines on February/March 25th. The supposed date the immunity kicked in was April 8th. (BTW, it was Moderna.) If I've got a good six months of immunity from that date, then I'd need to be thinking about getting the booster in September's neighborhood. (Israel is doing this now.) When government and other officials learned that Pfizer was already prepping the works for the booster, they seemed displeased. That it would look poorly on America that we were hogging vaccines while some countries hadn't seen the first shot.

This thread is freaking me out. I'm in New Jersey. Governor Murphy put the state on police enforced lock-down from March 21st through June 9th, 2020. The lock-down flattened the hump of the infection curve like nobody's business. It was amazing. Even after the lock-down ended, mask protocol was strictly enforced and only certain businesses were opened. I've been wearing face masks for roughly a year and a half now. I've gotten so used to wearing them that I actually forget they're on.

And now Delta.

[Tomconroy]

8. I think to put this in context we need to know

how many recent covid cases there have been in NJ. There hasn't been a significant rise in covid deaths nationally as far as I have read.

[Klaralven]

13. 75 percent of 18 to 65 and 95% 65 and over have been vaccinated in NJ

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker

Daily deaths have been in single digits since June and haven't risen, despite daily new cases going from 191 to 891.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-jersey/

[Tomconroy]

15. This summer is going to be nothing like last winter.

[lapucelle]

9. Those numbers are from from January 1 through July 12.

It's an alarming headline with the story behind a paywall.
Try this link:

Of 5.2 million fully vaccinated people in NJ, 49 have died from coronavirus
Jul 23, 2021, 4:18 PM

Forty-nine coronavirus disease (COVID-19) deaths occurred among fully vaccinated people in New Jersey through July 12, according to an article from NJ Advance Media.

This is an increase from the 31 deaths through June 28 reported by Gov. Phil Murphy (D-N.J.) on Monday at a COVID-19 briefing. Though, more than half of the people who died had underlying medical conditions, said Donna Leusner, a New Jersey Department of Health (DOH) spokesperson, according to the article.

https://dailytargum.com/article/2021/07/of-5-2-million-fully-vaccinated-people-in-nj-49-have-died-from-coronavirus

[Tomconroy]

12. Oh for heavens sake!

[LAS14]

16. Well, thanks for that interesting bit of info!!!! nt

[oldsoftie]

20. oh wow, that makes a TON of difference!!! Thank you

[druidity33]

22. yeah but what worries me...

is the number we will never see is how many of those 5.2 million vaxxed people actually got Covid? Not everyone surely. That alters the percentages. How many people with very minor symptoms will have long Covid problems? Why isn't the CDC tracking minor cases? How will this variant affect the under 12 year old unvaxxed children? More data please!

[lapucelle]

25. It's pretty much a given that the data is incomplete and likely an undercount,

especially since asymptomatic folks are less likely to get tested unless they have a specific reason to do so (i.e. contact tracing or athe requirement of having a negative test result in order to engage in an activity or to travel).

COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Case Investigation and Reporting

The number of COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC likely are an undercount of all SARS-CoV-2 infections among fully vaccinated persons. National surveillance relies on passive and voluntary reporting, and data might not be complete or representative. These surveillance data are a snapshot and help identify patterns and look for signals among vaccine breakthrough cases.

Data on patients with vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died will be updated regularly. Studies are being conducted in multiple U.S. sites that will include information on all vaccine breakthrough infections regardless of clinical status to supplement the national surveillance.

snip==============================================================================

Identifying and investigating hospitalized or fatal vaccine breakthrough cases

As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance.

Previous data on all vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC from January–April 2021 are available.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

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COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections Reported to CDC — United States, January 1–April 30, 2021

Beginning May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections to investigating only those among patients who are hospitalized or die, thereby focusing on the cases of highest clinical and public health significance.

CDC will continue to lead studies in multiple U.S. sites to evaluate vaccine effectiveness and collect information on all COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections regardless of clinical status. Additional information and resources to help public health departments and laboratories investigate and report COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases are available at https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e3.htm

[hay rick]

41. Thank you for providing crucial context OP failed to provide.

OP article behind a pay wall. Misleading and irresponsible OP.

[lagomorph777]

58. So, it's amazingly good news.

Nice alarmist OP there.

[obamanut2012]

65. Damed clickbait doomscrolling headline

Ugh.

[NickB79]

10. That's an incredibly good number

Given the millions of people vaccinated in the state.

[NJCher]

27. yes, it is

And as a resident of the state, the northern part, I can tell you that people never really stopped wearing masks. Oh sure, for a short time you might see one or two people in the grocery store without a mask.
For the most part, however, everyone kept wearing them. I want to stress, though, that I am in a blue county, very blue town. One would expect to see that kind of behavior.

These two paragraphs from the Targum story seem to sum it up rather well:

“It is important to point out that 49 deaths due to COVID-19 among 4.8 million fully vaccinated state residents is slightly greater than one in 100,000 fully vaccinated individuals,” DOH Communicable Disease Service Medical Director Edward Lifshitz said. “That means vaccines are about 99.999 (percent) effective in preventing deaths due to COVID-19.”

The state reported 3,474 cases among fully vaccinated residents through June 28, equating to a 99.92 percent rate of effectiveness against contracting COVID-19, Murphy said on Monday.

[Zeitghost]

40. Things must be different out east

I've been to San Francisco and Portland, two fairly liberal and progressive cities, in the last two weeks and I'd say 1/10 at best were masking indoors.

[JoanofArgh]

11. Their immunity levels probably weren't good.

[NJCher]

30. did you happen to watch Jonathan Capehart this morning?

Pulitizer Prize winning journalist Laurie Garrison explained that this morning on his show. If anyone has access to Jonathan's show on their on-demand or dvr, I highly recommend watching it. In fact, I'll probably watch it again. It has to do with the window of time the antibodies have to muster a defense after they have been in the body for a while. It's kind of like your memory--sometimes you can't quite think of what you need, but given a little time it comes back.

With the Delta variant being so much more efficient, there is going to be an effect. In other words, the antibodies are there but not quite ready to do their job. They do, however, regain their memory and protect the person.

If anyone watches this segment and wants to add to this post (or even correct anything I've gotten wrong), please do so.

Laurie Garrison is my absolute fave when it comes to explaining this virus. She is very, very smart.

[bdamomma]

34. Thank you for sharing

Very interesting read.

[SouthBayDem]

36. I think this was the Capehart segment you were summarizing

MSNBC has always been good about uploading its shows for free viewing online

[NJCher]

47. thank you SouthBayDem

That was a good part of it. It misses the part I wrote about above with the timing and the antibodies. I watched it again and took notes. Here is what she says:

Bottom line is that we all have to wear masks now because even vaccinated people can have billions of viruses in their nose and mouth and can spread it through simple conversation. She said the viral load being emitted is like Niagara Falls.

She earlier explained that the original Wuhan virus had an RO of 2.5 and the Delta variant has 8. That means that each person will infect 2.5 or with Delta, 8. Huge difference! That is why this thing is coming at us so fast.

So even if you have been vaccinated, you may not know it and you can be spreading it around--unless you are wearing a mask. You can feel fine and not know that you are spreading the virus around.

She was particularly incensed that healthcare workers who aren't vaccinated could be spreading it. She wants to see all healthcare workers and employees in senior care facilities have to get vaccinated. And they would still have to wear a mask. She also mentioned fire departments--any field where the responsibility is to protect and to serve.

[FarPoint]

62. I never heard of either....

Do you think a video clip is on YouTube? I agree with the statement...the vaccine is working but can not respond quite fast enough...

As I understand it, the Delta is 1000 times higher in viral load in anyone's nares, vax'ed or not...The vaccinated infected/exposed responds but is just not as fast as the virus loading...may take 2-3 days to build up enough of a resistance while the virus continues its assault thus one shows at a minimum positive PCR for covid-19...the virus is being neutralized as well...a process.... Kind of like oral antibiotics...got an infected finger, get on antibiotics and you see improvement in about 2 days...requires doses for 10 days....

So, I'm thinking...I'm vax'ed and also going to wear a mask, N95 if in any close contact with another...reduce the exposure concentration...Not going to any public events, groups etc...shop in early AM only, revamp all protective protocols....

Fingers crossed.


Ohhhh an MSNBC Segment...familiar indeed...just piss poor with names...hahahaha..

[Indykatie]

14. How Many People Usually Die In Same Period of Time?

What is the point of reporting these deaths? With a large percent of folks being vaccinated we will of course have people dying who were in fact fully vaccinated.

[SergeStorms]

18. Did the type of vaccine matter?

Just wondered in the mRNA vaccine worked better, or if it made no difference.

[oregonjen]

28. So many would like to know the answer to that. I wish we could get a breakdown

for each vaccine.

[Ex Lurker]

52. There's some anecdotal evidence that Moderna is a little better than Pfizer

Perhaps because of the larger dose.

[JohnSJ]

31. Exactly. Leaving that detail out irresponsible, but that is the pattern that has been followed

The mRNA vaccines have a 90%+ efficacy, while the JNJ has something like 60% efficacy, and that is based on the original Covid strains

[Jon King]

19. More evidence the vaccine works extremely well.

Thats the message. Remember 30000 die of the flu each season, most with similar risk factors.

Covid will be with us from now on, even as we get more and more vaccinated. And every year 1000s will die of Covid and 1000s will die of the flu. That is simply a fact of life.

[Cousin Dupree]

21. And yet, everywhere I go lately, the spouse and I are the ONLY

ones with masks on.

[Fiendish Thingy]

23. 49 deaths out of 5.2 million fully vaccinated NJ residents - not a reason to panic.

Folks with underlying conditions should continue to take protective measures as much as possible, but the most important takeaway from the current data is this:

Fully vaccinated people, even those with underlying conditions or who are elderly, are at extremely low risk of severe illness or death from a breakthrough delta infection.

[Zeitghost]

43. It's good news being repackaged as bad to instill fear (and get ratings/clicks/views)

As you pointed out, 49 out of 5.2 million, the majority of which had serious health problems and were older than the average life expectancy, is no reason to panic. The vaccine is working.

[maxsolomon]

24. in 2017-2018, 61,000 Americans died from influenza.

167 per day.

If Covid deaths are knocked down to those levels, versus 10X that that they were in 2020, we'll be ok.

Don't freak out.

[alphafemale]

26. TERROR! TERROR! FEAR! FEAR!

49 seriously?

More people probably choked on gapes.

[JohnSJ]

29. What were they vaccinated with, JNJ or Pfizer/Bio n Tech or Moderna. Isn't that importnat?

The reporting and journalism regarding this type of reporting is irresponsible, but has been the standard of reporting, leaving out important details

[joetheman]

49. It would seem to be very important.

Can someone here explain whether or not monoclonal antibodies should be used more to help this situation? And no matter what others may think, I believe the best answer lies in some kind of nasal vaccine or prophylaxis.

[lapucelle]

56. Scientists and researchers are working on an answer to your question.

SARS-CoV-2 Variant Classifications and Definitions
Updated July 27, 2021

Laboratory studies suggest specific monoclonal antibody treatments may be less effective for treating cases of COVID-19 caused by variants with certain substitutions or combinations of substitutions in the spike protein.

L452R is present in B.1.526 (Iota), B.1.427 (Epsilon), and B.1.429 (Epsilon) lineages, as well as the B.1.617 (Kappa, Delta) lineages and sub-lineages.

E484K is present in B.1.525 (Eta), P.2 (Zeta), P.1 (Gamma), and B.1.351 (Beta), but only some strains of B.1.526 (Iota) and B.1.1.7 (Alpha).

The combination of K417N, E484K, and N501Y substitutions is present in B.1.351 (Beta).

The combination of K417T, E484K, and N501Y substitutions is present in P.1 (Gamma).

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/variant-info.html

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Here's one of the studies that suggests specific monoclonal antibody treatments may be less effective for treating cases of COVID-19 caused by variants with certain substitutions or combinations of substitutions in the spike protein:

Reduced sensitivity of SARS-CoV-2 variant Delta to antibody neutralization

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03777-9#Sec23

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Here's a recent study concerning a breakthrough case:

Monoclonal Antibody Therapy in a Vaccine Breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 Hospitalized Delta (B.1.617.2) Variant Case

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971221005865

[Joelteply]

42. Just like my second cousin tonight

He died tonight in Kansas City and had the Pfizer vaccine. He was on a ventilator and then it was pulled. His lungs suffered too much damage. It’s so sad. This variant is dangerous.

[luckone]

57. My condolences to you & family. Months ago it was thought possible we would soon beat Covid

as a nation with just vaccines. But the dominant variants which are always evolving here with so many willing hosts, make it less of a possibility in the near future
and so sad this hit your family Joelteply.

[Worried2020]

44. I'm curious to know if they still masked up and did social distancing.

.

We know this Delta thing is ferocious, and haven't really dealt with it successfully.

I'm fully vaccinated (Pfizer), but I still mask up, maintain distancing, and avoid unmasked people like the plague - which is wise imo.

70 and not in the best of health - I figure if I catch the bug - I'm dead.



W

[LisaL]

46. Thirty of them were over 80.

Seems unlikely they did a lot of partying or bar hopping.

[Ex Lurker]

53. My parents are over 80

They're not hitting the bars but they're out and about most days of the week. Not everyone is a shut-in.

[orleans]

48. that article gave me a paywall

here's a link to the hill
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/564243-new-jersey-officials-say-nearly-50-fully-vaccinated-residents-have-died

[MyMission]

51. Of 5.2 million fully vaccinated people in NJ, 49 have died from coronavirus

That should have been the headline!

I suspected the right wing nuts would peddle that but didn't think about MSM.

Playing up that "many" in hospital are unvaccinated, or when medical staff express surprise at having vaccinated patients in ICU or very ill, yet there are far more cases of hospitalization and death in the unvaccinated. They are also playing up the fact that we vaccinated people can spread it, and are trying to blame us for spreading it. I've heard that craziness from a few who are not vaccinated. I know some left leaning antivaxers who spout the same rhetoric, but at least they were a mask, compared to the right wing nuts who don't.

I believe we'll need boosters and yearly shots. And masks to protect us as well, for years to come.

[Ms. Toad]

55. That snapshot in time would have been incredibly misleading.

Many of those 5.2 million do not yet have, and have not died yet. The fact that they have not YET had a breakthrough case does not mean that they will not.

Those 49 deaths were generated largely when Delta was not around, largely when the infection rate was low, and largely when other mitigation measures were in place.

That is not a reasonable estimate of what is likely to come, now that we're back up to 100,000 cases a day (with death, with delta, without mitigation measures).

[lapucelle]

60. A statement of facts is not misleading. Facts are not responsible for the inferences (good or bad)

that people make based on them.

Additional facts for consideration are that 19 of those deaths occurred in the most recent 2 week period and that not all of the deaths of vaccinated people who were covid-positive when they died were actually deaths related to covid.

As an example, here is a NJ State Department of Health press release from June 2021 (the most recent breakdown currently available).

As expected, people who were fully vaccinated had less severe illness demonstrated by a small number of hospitalizations and deaths. The Department found that 92 individuals with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection were hospitalized, however only 30 were reported as related to COVID-19 illness. There were 14 deaths among individuals with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection, however only 7 were reported to be related to COVID-19.

“This data shows us overwhelmingly that these vaccines work,” Commissioner Persichilli said. “It also suggests the COVID-19 vaccines approved for use in the U.S. offer protection against most COVID-19 variants that are circulating. However, variants circulating in the state may cause some of the breakthrough cases.”

The 1,319 breakthrough cases represent 0.06% of the 2.2 million individuals who were fully vaccinated between the start of the state’s vaccination program on December 15, 2020 and April 23, 2021.

Of 92 individuals hospitalized, which represents 0.004% of those fully vaccinated, 30 of the hospitalizations were COVID-19 related and 62 were hospitalized for other illnesses. Of those 30 individuals hospitalized related to COVID-19, 20 had underlying conditions. Nearly three-quarters of those hospitalized—71%--were 65 years or older (37% were 80 years or older) and 59% were female.

https://www.nj.gov/health/news/2021/approved/20210609a.shtml

[Ms. Toad]

64. While I agree that facts, accompanied by complete information about what the facts mean

are not misleading.

But they are misleading when used in a way which is intended to minimize the risk of breakthrough cases - including when they are intentionally cited without intentional reference to the circumstances in which those facts were gathered.

I have not, on DU, seen "facts" such as this used for any purpose other than to minimize the risk or seriousness of breakthrough infections by implying that the risk of breakthrough cases is miniscule when the reality is that the risk of becoming a breakthrough case is likey to be about 5 for every 100 cases of original COVID, and 12 for every 100 cases of delta COVID, since that is the meaning of vaccine effectiveness.

[Iggo]

54. How many fully vaccinated people in NJ have contracted the virus?

49 dead is tragic, for sure. But that number is not very useful without knowing the total number of breakthrough cases.

[FarPoint]

63. I think getting active hospitalized infection rate post vaccinated would help.

Just knowing if positive/breakthru is not enough information as one will be positive asymptomtic with such an immediate 1000 fold initial viral load.....I would find it valuable to know who actually is rather ill ...may need monoclonal antibodies with a fully vaccinated illness...

I expect many positive asymptomatic folks with that massive vial load in the nares/mouth at onset of exposure....

Stock up on KN95 masks at least....

[lapucelle]

66. The CDC is collecting the hospital case data, but not all states are choosing to report them.

Studies are currently being done and data are being collected on both the efficacy of therapeutics on the delta variant and the efficacy of monoclonal antibodies on breakthrough delta variant infections.

The best place to keep track of emerging data is the MMWR. You can subscribe to the free publication at the CDC website and get all updates sent to your inbox.

MMWR Covid Reports:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/Novel_Coronavirus_Reports.html


Complete MMWR:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/index.html

[kentuck]

67. What is the total number of people who have died from Covid?

Since the vaccination program began? That would be a useful stat.

[themaguffin]

68. All but 6 were 65+ according to the article. That coupled with underlying issues seemed to be the

common thread.