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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:42 PM Oct 2012

Amanda Todd's Alleged Bully Named By Anonymous After Teen's Tragic Suicide

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/amanda-todd-bully-anonymous-suicide_n_1969792.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Hacktivist group Anonymous has reportedly tracked down the man who bullied Amanda Todd, a 15-year-old Canadian girl who committed suicide after suffering torment that led to depression and anxiety.

Anonymous named Todd's alleged bully on Monday in a post on Pastebin.com. The accusers allege that the man who targeted Todd, made her flash him and then turned her life into a living nightmare is a 30-year-old from New Westminster, British Columbia. The post describes him as the man who "extorted amanda todd for pictures. This is the pedophile that social engineered Amanda Todd into supplying him nude pictures."

Anonymous also revealed his address.

Vice magazine posted information that reportedly further links Todd to the alleged bully, including Google Map screenshots of his house, his Facebook profile, chat conversations and screenshots from a "jailbait" website account supposedly tied to the man.
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Amanda Todd's Alleged Bully Named By Anonymous After Teen's Tragic Suicide (Original Post) Bill USA Oct 2012 OP
"Bully" is NOT the word for this. Try: Predatory Stalking (at very least) Xedniw Oct 2012 #1
yes. it is so far beyond "bullying". thank you. very good point. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #4
And what if Anonymous is wrong? randome Oct 2012 #2
I really hate to agree with you on this Zalatix Oct 2012 #3
yes. just like the three years being stalked and harrassed and threatened by the man. the law seabeyond Oct 2012 #6
Anonymous is setting him up for extrajudicial violence. ASSUMING they have the right man. Zalatix Oct 2012 #9
nor did you hear me state that i believe in people taking this into their own hands. seabeyond Oct 2012 #13
Anonymous is ENABLING people to take the law into their own hands. Zalatix Oct 2012 #14
ok. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #15
Yes. It's like that family that was "exposed" as Zimmerman's family, but it wasn't? They had toleave Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #22
That's exactly what I was thinking. NaturalHigh Oct 2012 #25
I guess you have more faith in ANONYMOUS that I do. NaturalHigh Oct 2012 #18
not really. i also read where the police got a tip a year ago from someone who knew the man. seabeyond Oct 2012 #26
And what of they are better and faster at hacking and have bettyellen Oct 2012 #5
What if they are wrong? randome Oct 2012 #7
Posting his name and address sets him up for vigilante violence. Zalatix Oct 2012 #10
Anonymous has done more for child predators than the DOJ has in years. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #8
I'm rather wary of them ever since their San Francisco BART activity arcane1 Oct 2012 #11
I generally support Anonymous Downtown Hound Oct 2012 #12
Yep. I'd turn this information over to the police myself... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #17
This really makes me nervous. NaturalHigh Oct 2012 #16
According to what is posted by radaronline, LisaL Oct 2012 #20
I hope nobody gets hurt. NaturalHigh Oct 2012 #21
Me too. LisaL Oct 2012 #23
Anonymous drops the ball again.... Llewlladdwr Oct 2012 #19
They are setting someone up to get killed. NaturalHigh Oct 2012 #24
 

Xedniw

(134 posts)
1. "Bully" is NOT the word for this. Try: Predatory Stalking (at very least)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:46 PM
Oct 2012
https://www.stalkingriskprofile.com/what-is-stalking/types-of-stalking

What this pedophile did was a crime. He should be tried for predatory stalking:


The Predatory stalker

Predatory stalking arises in the context of deviant sexual practices and interests. Perpetrators are usually male and victims are usually female strangers in whom the stalker develops a sexual interest. The stalking behaviour is usually initiated as a way of obtaining sexual gratification (e.g., voyeurism targeting a single victim over time), but can also be used a way of obtaining information about the victim as a precursor to a sexual assault. In this sense the stalking is both instrumental and also gratifying for those stalkers who enjoy the sense of power and control that comes from targeting the usually unsuspecting victim.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. And what if Anonymous is wrong?
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:46 PM
Oct 2012

What if they just make shit up?
What if the people who released this info are not even part of Anonymous?

Holier-than-thou vigilantism gives me such a warm feeling inside.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
3. I really hate to agree with you on this
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:51 PM
Oct 2012

it is in fact an issue for law enforcement, for the very reason you mentioned.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. yes. just like the three years being stalked and harrassed and threatened by the man. the law
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:53 PM
Oct 2012

enforcement failed to do their job, regardless of the info they had. NOW, they are getting on it, with a dead girl. they know who it is. if it was not this man, we would have heard.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
9. Anonymous is setting him up for extrajudicial violence. ASSUMING they have the right man.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:03 PM
Oct 2012

If you are looking for someone to agree with the idea of extrajudicial violence in response to a crime then I am most certainly not your man.

This is an issue for law enforcement and the rule of law. The problem here is that law enforcement is too busy protecting the 1% to do their real job.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
13. nor did you hear me state that i believe in people taking this into their own hands.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:10 PM
Oct 2012

anyone commits any violence or any unlawful action against them, they should pay the price.

and the reality is, this man outed a girl, went after a child, stalked, harrassed, threatened, blackmailed. and he is feeling the same kind of repercussion that girl did for her actions when he preyed on her. the reality of the net.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
14. Anonymous is ENABLING people to take the law into their own hands.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:13 PM
Oct 2012

Negligence? Their behavior goes WAY past that. They should have just forwarded it to law enforcement.

I want this man to spend the rest of his life in prison. But I don't want mass vigilantism.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. Yes. It's like that family that was "exposed" as Zimmerman's family, but it wasn't? They had toleave
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:51 PM
Oct 2012

They had to leave their home because of the threats of violence, etc. It was the wrong Zimmerman. They had a son George, but not THE George. I think that's what happened.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
25. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:57 PM
Oct 2012

It really bothers me to see anyone supporting what "ANONYMOUS" did in this case.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
26. not really. i also read where the police got a tip a year ago from someone who knew the man.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:48 PM
Oct 2012

they knew who he was and did nothing. they came out after the anonymous leak and said it was wrong that they did that and they need to handle it. like they did for a whole year.... BEFORE the girl killed herself. they also found child porn and other incriminating shit on his computer.

i am sure, if it was not the correct man, the police would have worded it differently.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
5. And what of they are better and faster at hacking and have
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:52 PM
Oct 2012

Sent the info to the police? Which seems to be the case.
I'll be upset about your scenario when it happens. But from what I have heard his man has already been charged with other crimes against young girls. And it seems the police might not have been doing too well connecting the dots.
There's so much negative harrassment on the Internet for fun, I'm sure as hell not going to complain when people try to counter it.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
10. Posting his name and address sets him up for vigilante violence.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

That should have been sent privately to the cops, not sent out for the world to see. This guy may never make trial because of that.

We are a nation of laws, you know. Not wild animals running around hunting and killing each other.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
11. I'm rather wary of them ever since their San Francisco BART activity
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

Specifically: "protesting" the actions of BART police by releasing the personal info of BART customers who have an account with BART. I am one of those, and I can't say I felt very good about it.

So I'm happy when "they" do something cool, but I hope there is some solid outside confirmation of this person's identity before anything happens to him. If they have the right man, he won't get any sympathy from me!

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
12. I generally support Anonymous
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:08 PM
Oct 2012

I just really hope they're not wrong here. This is the type of thing that can ruin lives if you accuse the wrong person.

regnaD kciN

(27,427 posts)
17. Yep. I'd turn this information over to the police myself...
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

...and have them check it out and take action. If they turn out to have made a misidentification...well, his blood would be on their heads if someone reads the information and decides to dispense a little vigilante justice.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
16. This really makes me nervous.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

Yes, whoever tormented this young lady deserves whatever he gets, but I don't really trust an anonymous group of internet hackers to get it right beyond a reasonable doubt. If they have the wrong guy, this could easily get an innocent person killed.

LisaL

(47,343 posts)
20. According to what is posted by radaronline,
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:45 PM
Oct 2012

anonymous did get the address wrong.
I don't trust "vigilante" justice either.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
24. They are setting someone up to get killed.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:55 PM
Oct 2012

If the authorities ever find out who this particular "ANONYMOUS" is, they should prosecute him for reckless endangerment.

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