"Ignore us at your peril": House may be lost if intrastructure plan not scaled back substantially

[NewsCenter28]

Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney, a New York Democrat who chairs the DCCC, discussed new polling of 1,000 likely 2022 voters in more than 48 battleground districts and areas. And Maloney told his colleagues: "If the election were held today, we would lose," according to multiple sources and confirmed by the DCCC.

One moderate Democrat with knowledge of the conversations told CNN that "there's lot of anxiety about doing more tax and spending" right now. While the Democratic source believes the Senate's bipartisan infrastructure deal could be helpful for their electoral prospects, the source says that liberals' hopes of passing a $3.5 trillion plan to expand the social safety net will have to be pared back substantially, something that would enrage the left.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/03/politics/house-democratic-fears-midterms/index.html

Who would have thunk it? Looks like Senator Sinema is on the right track after all. Her call to reduce the $3.5 trillion package may have been the key to us keeping the house.

Also, internal polls are highly accurate and Rep. Maloney is a rockstar. So, we should heed his warnings.

Based on this, we should probably move off our focus on the insurrection and voting rights and focus like a laser beam on making the economy work for the middle class and getting the country through the Delta resurgence. Expand the majorities in 2022 and then we can focus more on our pet projects like voting rights and the insurrection in the '23-24 session.

The elements of a winning Democratic agenda are "the economy is stronger for you in the middle class" with proof to back that up and "we reversed the COVID catastrophe and helped Americans to end the pandemic." Nothing else matters. Let's not run after the shiny objects that the GOQ wants us to run after, as it is clearly not working. Let's focus on our historic strengths.

[pbmus]

1. Nothing wrong with shedding light on the multitude of...

CORRUPTION AND WRONGDOING….

[NewsCenter28]

3. Not at all but remember President Clinton?

We need to be out there every day proving that "until the last dog dies, I'll be working for you". Language like his resonates. This should be a strength of President Biden. He is "middle-class Joe." Hey DCCC, that's your winning message. "Middle class Joe going to work every day for you and here's the proof." Simple as that.

[GoodRaisin]

17. Pardon me, but how have Republicans been working every day for middle class?

They don't do anything at all for working class. Just sayin'...

[PortTack]

2. "Pet projects like voting rights?" If ppl can't vote it won't matter how much we manage to get done

Polls show a large majority of Americans want to see voting made easier...not harder. It’s a winning issue.

[NewsCenter28]

5. It's not a winning issue

Maloney wouldn't have come back with the data he did if it was. Like, I said, we need to be one-track. "Middle Class Joe and his Democratic allies in congress out there every day working for you until the last dog dies." With results, that can get us pushing 65% approval.

[FalloutShelter]

26. If Sean Pat (my Congressman) says this, I would listen.

He is a great Congressman and a person of high integrity. He is also in a purple district, so he hears all sides of the arguments.

[PortTack]

41. GQP fear Dems voting protections bill polls well. A new poll says they're right

More than 80 percent of respondents said they supported preventing foreign interference in elections, limiting the influence of money in politics, and modernizing election infrastructure to increase election security. More than 60 percent of respondents supported requiring nonpartisan redistricting commissions, a 15-day early voting period for all federal elections, same-day registration for all eligible voters, automatic voter registration for all eligible voters, and giving every voter the option to vote by mail.

More at the link

https://www.vox.com/2021/5/3/22406391/hr1-poll-for-the-people-act

[Blue_true]

39. What we need to do is shut our mouths and get people registered to vote.

And educate people that are infrequent voters that they can get themselves removed from voting roles if they don’t vote. We win sizable majorities, then change laws to have actual democracy.

Our party nationally need to do like Democrats in Virginia did, silently build a super-majority.

[global1]

4. No Matter What Path The Dems Take They Are Going To Have....

some group of Dem voters that are not going to agree and say they wouldn't vote Dem.

So IMHO the Dems just need to get as much done as possible - infrastructure, voting rights, insurrection acountability, etc.

You can't please everyone - so you might as well please as many as you can.

[gratuitous]

6. Yeah, people will be real sore when their roads get fixed

And you don't want to hear them when the schools in town get badly needed repairs and upgrades. And when this spending on public works has a ripple effect in those areas lifting everyone's prospects? Oh, Katy bar the door!

Rep. Maloney is cordially invited to go piss up a rope.

[NewsCenter28]

15. The counterbalance to that is

We need to prove that we are sound fiscal managers, unlike the GOQ. "Sure, that stuff sounds great, but what about the debt?", says the average joe, no pun intended.

We need an agenda that pushes unemployment down to 4% to 5% with GDP growth of around 4% on average without being successfully labeled "tax and spend." That's the sweet spot.

[brush]

24. Ya know, that's bordering on being a republican talking point.

It sounds like you want to keep the lid on good things our party delivers to voters. No thank you.

[gratuitous]

27. What about the debt, then?

Remember all the way back to 2017? That bit of Republican fuckery blew up the deficit and added several trillion dollars to the debt. If they come mooching around about "debt" and "balanced budgets," we can bust their ear drums with derisive laughter. When the money in the Treasury is funneled into the overstuffed pockets of the wealthy, the deficit goes up because the money goes to work for the fatcats. When the money in the Treasury is spent for the public good, it has a multiplier effect as working people are lifted out of poverty and they spend their money supporting their friends and neighbors in their businesses.

"Sound fiscal management" is precisely what the full infrastructure bill is all about. When working folks have stable jobs and they're making a living wage, and the federal budget is trending back in the direction it did under Obama and the surplus the Clinton economic policy generate, the average joe is not likely to listen to Republican deficit peacock squawking.

[LanternWaste]

38. You consistently move the goalposts from their spot in the OP.

Every counter argument you received i this thread, you've replied with variations of "yeah, but that ain't enough..." without providing objective data to support it as such.

[Blues Heron]

21. Totally agree with your post

it felt like that was the main message of the OP - stop talking about the insurrection.

[Chainfire]

8. I think that that is bologna

A year from now people won't be talking about the infrastructure spending unless is is talking about how many jobs it created. This spending is necessary and I think that most people know it. We can't go on living off of the infrastructure our fathers and grandfathers gave us, we have to chip in if we want to remain competitive in the world. Eisenhower's interstates aren't going to keep propelling us into the future!

Yea, the Republicans are going to bitch and moan about it but if we exercise any of our Democratic values, it will be the same thing. The assholes will condemn us for doing the same things that they have done for decades....it is who they are. There is not point in us continuing to elect Democratic politicians if we have to keep serving Republican interests. We have a window to lead, damnit, we need to lead. We have to be willing to quit playing by the variable rules that the Republicans keep confronting us with and push their minority ass out of the way. If we can't do that, or we will not do that, then the people will come to the conclusion that we don't deserve to govern and we may never win another election.

[NewsCenter28]

18. My heart is with you

I hope you're right but my primary priority at this point is to do whatever it takes to avoid a 2010 wipeout again.

[Chainfire]

23. And my point is that if we don't pass progressive legislation, then what is the point?

We may only have a majority for 18 months, if not now, then when?

[brewens]

9. People just hate seeing their government spend their tax dollars doing good things for them.

Better just keep shoveling money at those that already have it working for them.

[brush]

12. Ahhh...FYI: We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

We don't have to give up fight for voting rights and just concentrate on one thing.

And IMO if we pass both infrastructure bills soon and get projects with millions of good jobs started all over the country, we'll be ok come election time as the economy will be booming with both Dems and republican voters making more money. And remember, Sinema is a former Greene Party member. You know the party that only exists to take votes from Dems so republicans can win.

[jalan48]

13. Are we still doing the rich are job creators thing?

[MFM008]

19. They talk about Democrats messaging

What exactly are Republicans offering at this point? I haven't heard any plans about anything coming from their side except to stop more voting and allow covid to spread that's it that's their platform, and people are supposed to go all in for this?
McCarthy better not make too many plans as far as being speaker goes yet.

[rickyhall]

20. Voting rights not a winning issue? How about Fascist Dictatorship?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

25. Lol, end covid payments, start up evications, scale back infrastructure, kick voting rights

back to organizers. Sounds like a winning plan!

[gab13by13]

29. Yeah, I'm with ya,

Dems need to scale back to fire up the base. Is that the moral of the story? Count me out. Do I need the sarcasm thingy?

[pbmus]

30. Sounds like a repuker plan...

[58Sunliner]

28. OMG, who woulda thunk. Voting rights are pet projects.

[empedocles]

31. The DCCC is worried about legislative and electoral results, not policies per se.

[PSPS]

32. LOL! Yes!!11!! "we should probably move off our focus on the insurrection" !!111!!11!!!

We can look at that whole issue after the next one, right? RIGHT???

[Mr.Bill]

33. Because polls are so accurate

when you don't even know who you are running against yet.

[cachukis]

34. Democrats are do gooders. Republicans pride themselves

on living without. Not talking about the country club side. The real Kentucky, dentists are too expensive, side. Maloney is talking about those districts that are tight with many republicans who live the fear pushed on them by the country clubbers.
Democrats are generally laid back, let live types. We got TFG out and need to get back to chill.
Dems are expecting them to pay for a better road, internet, healthcare ad nauseam.
We are tough, proud, independents who would rather die than give in. We change our own oil, buy used tires and day old bread. If we can't escape our lot, we will show how much we can take. We will bitch and moan about those who want us to enjoy their lives.
Maloney can count. It's a fine line in this America.
Do good and get voted out. Dunning Kruger rules in gerrymandered FL, TX, NC, GA etal, where the home team does no wrong.
What, me worry? Yes, moreso than ever. Has any country ever come back from an autocracy?

[Blue_true]

36. I just don't understand some voters.

We have one party, the Republican Party, that wants to end democracy as we know it, yet it would still get to lead? Kevin McCarthy is a slimy weasel who stands for nothing, the thought of such a weak person being Speaker in mind-boggling.

[WHITT]

37. I Call Bullshit

poll after poll has shown what the Dems have proposed for infrastructure is popular, but when you add in raising taxes on the Rich & Corporate, the polling takes off like a rocket.

And it's PAID FOR.

Sounds to me like somebody is shading the questions, like just 'raising taxes' and 'spending resulting in debt'.

[ShazamIam]

40. Neo liberal Democratic I hope no one believes him or the polling which has been tightly controlled

since 2011. The biggest lie going, be more conservative, keep stealing the wealth of the working and middle class and retirees.