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Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 10:49 AM Aug 2021

Is it wrong to hate ? .....Is it wrong to wish bad things on your psycho political opponents ?

Lord knows the repubs hate the dems.

I find myself hating Dump, Gaetz, Gym Jordan and a host of others and I try not to to.

Am i too wraped up in politics?

Am I becoming my enemy/opponents?



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Is it wrong to hate ? .....Is it wrong to wish bad things on your psycho political opponents ? (Original Post) Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 OP
It's a waste if time, energy could be much better spent moving forward. Merlot Aug 2021 #1
I think it's wrong. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2021 #2
Yes it is wrong to hate. Just think of them as pwb Aug 2021 #3
...I don't want to be right. dchill Aug 2021 #4
I understand Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #5
I don't have the energy, myself. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #6
Was it wrong to shoot Nazis? lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #7
Wow.. I don't want to think in those terms. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #11
I'm with you. rownesheck Aug 2021 #16
" Hate is important when directed at people who deserve it. " Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #25
They're destroying the world XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #8
I believe it is wrong anotherOKIE Aug 2021 #9
Hatred Harms You More That Those You Hate MineralMan Aug 2021 #10
Good point. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #12
I try to avoid it, but there's a few people I hate Chautauquas Aug 2021 #13
There's hating, and then there's . . . gratuitous Aug 2021 #14
I like that. Good explanation nt XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #18
Inspiration... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #15
I resist hate. But I unapologetically and energetically despise. chia Aug 2021 #17
I agree....but its a fine line. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #28
"Others may hate you, but they don't win until you hate them Walleye Aug 2021 #19
Shall we answer the question as an ethicist, a psychologist, a spiritual mentor? sanatanadharma Aug 2021 #20
Thats very deep. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #22
I always love your posts bedazzled Aug 2021 #27
To achieve success in compassion one need only... sanatanadharma Aug 2021 #32
The hardest thing is to forgive yourself bedazzled Aug 2021 #33
that kind of hate doesn't have to be stress inducing agingdem Aug 2021 #21
Well stated! PortTack Aug 2021 #23
Yes it's wrong, but I do it anyway Poiuyt Aug 2021 #24
Exactly . Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #26
It depends on what you do with the hatred. Talitha Aug 2021 #29
Thank you for all your responses. Before this drops... Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #30
It doesn't do any good to hate them. They don't know it or even care. marie999 Aug 2021 #31
It's never wrong to hate fascists. roamer65 Aug 2021 #34
OK... Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #35
Absolutely yes. roamer65 Aug 2021 #36
Hatred is a parasite H2O Man Aug 2021 #37
hmmmm...thx Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #38

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. Was it wrong to shoot Nazis?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:09 AM
Aug 2021

Sometimes things have to be done to save the world. I'm not advocating shooting Reptilians, but I feel no guilt at all for wanting the worst of them locked up forever.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
16. I'm with you.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:22 AM
Aug 2021

Hate is important when directed at people who deserve it. I don't love racists. I don't love murderous far right politicians and their enablers either. All should be placed in solitary confinement for the remainder of their lives with no human contact ever again. Fuck em.

XanaDUer2

(10,643 posts)
8. They're destroying the world
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:11 AM
Aug 2021

literally.

Sometimes you gotta feel what you feel.

However, fight for liberals.

anotherOKIE

(90 posts)
9. I believe it is wrong
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:13 AM
Aug 2021

I do believe that it is wrong to hate anyone or anything; however, I find myself doing that all of the time. I am not happy with myself and I haven't been able to overcome it but I try to reset every day and think about something good and happy. I really think that half of the people on this planet -- the conservative (religious?) half -- have so much hate emanating from them that they are the cause of all of the hate in the world. I believe that the earth would be a paradise if it wasn't for them.

I do try at least a little bit to turn off the news so that it is not running through my brain and corrupting my thoughts by making me so angry. I even turn off msnbc (who I love) because they report on the crazy right wingers and then I am thinking about the crazy haters and becoming angry inside.

I think the best thing for me is to be outside and walk or sit in the sunshine whenever possible and maybe read.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
10. Hatred Harms You More That Those You Hate
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:13 AM
Aug 2021

It is a toxic emotion, which should be avoided whenever possible.

So, yes.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. There's hating, and then there's . . .
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:20 AM
Aug 2021

Observing with something approaching grim satisfaction when the consequences of their words and actions land on their pumpkin heads.

Walleye

(31,009 posts)
19. "Others may hate you, but they don't win until you hate them
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:32 AM
Aug 2021

Because then you destroy yourself“ Richard Nixon August 1974 farewell speech to his staff in the White House. I’ve never forgotten that. Lesson learned. Too late

sanatanadharma

(3,699 posts)
20. Shall we answer the question as an ethicist, a psychologist, a spiritual mentor?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:38 AM
Aug 2021

Hate happens in the human condition.
Like all emotions, hate comes and goes; and like all emotions, one can become addicted to it.
Perhaps free will exists in transcending any binding, limiting or self-injuring notions.

What to do?
I can recognize that my worlds are overarching orderly-systems; indeed science is based upon this reality.
My lesser being may be provoked by opposition, and frustration often births anger, but I do not need to identify with that anger.

I can let it go in a bit of ritual release.
"OK, it is all beyond me, my actions are necessary but insufficient to remove opposition"
"Nonetheless, things happen within the congruent orders of the universe and bad things do occur."
"I can't manifest karmic-justice but I can stand aside and watch it happen."
"I do not wish revenge upon anyone. I just want to be there to see it."

bedazzled

(1,761 posts)
27. I always love your posts
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 12:50 PM
Aug 2021

I think it is important to process and dismiss hatred as soon as possible. That emotion harms you physically and blocks positive and healing energies. That said, as difficult as it is, having compassion for those who perform such acts is a true challenge and I fail sometimes. I feel that this education is why we are here. Thank you...

sanatanadharma

(3,699 posts)
32. To achieve success in compassion one need only...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:04 PM
Aug 2021

To achieve success in compassion one need only have 100% compassion for one's own self-predicaments; honesty and acceptance of our own omissions and commissions.

Simple

bedazzled

(1,761 posts)
33. The hardest thing is to forgive yourself
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:18 PM
Aug 2021

Which leads to recognition that personal healing will impact the whole in a positive way. It's so needed yet so difficult when you bask in negativity. Negativity is the worst drug of all

agingdem

(7,848 posts)
21. that kind of hate doesn't have to be stress inducing
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 12:07 PM
Aug 2021

once you accept that there are monsters among us and the toxicity of their very existence is calamitous to you, your family, friends, and the planet, it's ok, and, in fact quite liberating to wish them dead...face it, when the orange dung heap was whisked to the hospital after having contracted covid, how many of us pleaded with our personal god to end that depraved sociopath's life?...I know I did as did my children and grandchildren...so take a little piece of that loathing, tuck it away in your mind and find comfort in the knowledge that what was done to us as a nation, the near destruction of our democracy, the overt hate of "the other", the 600,000 lives needlessly lost, is/was so horrendously unforgivable that anything other than hate is inexplicable...

PortTack

(32,757 posts)
23. Well stated!
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 12:20 PM
Aug 2021

They will get their due. Unfortunately it will drag many of us along with them..but as a species we can only
Ignore the laws of physics and nature
Act with depravity towards others
Harm the children- allowing them to be subjected to a plague among other things before the agent of darkness comes calling.

I do feel elements of hate welling up at times, but I try not to let it overwhelm me and remember what is in store for them..they brought this on themselves. The self loathing they must feel as they draw their last for what they did..that will be payment enough..at least in my book

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
24. Yes it's wrong, but I do it anyway
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 12:29 PM
Aug 2021

and I'm ashamed of myself.

Interestingly, there was a study that showed that most Republicans think of Democrats as enemies of America, while most Democrats think of Republicans as political opponents.

 

Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
26. Exactly .
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 12:33 PM
Aug 2021

Repubs really hate the dems and justify anything they do on that basis.

Its hard not to hate back when they base their actions on that hate.

I too am sometimes ashamed of myself.

Talitha

(6,582 posts)
29. It depends on what you do with the hatred.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:39 PM
Aug 2021

IMO, hatred is like a hot coal in my hand.
I can hang onto it and wait for the other person to get burned.
OR I can let it go and move on.

I choose the latter.

 

Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
30. Thank you for all your responses. Before this drops...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:40 PM
Aug 2021

I know its hard not to hate...and I fight it frequently .

But there are evil actions by evil people that you cant control yourself.

Sometimes , like someone said, you have to feel what you feel.

Thanks to all.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
31. It doesn't do any good to hate them. They don't know it or even care.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:42 PM
Aug 2021

Being happy if they are convicted and sent to prison is fine. Jesus said you should visit people in prison, he did not say you had to visit these types of people.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
34. It's never wrong to hate fascists.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:21 PM
Aug 2021

It’s a self defense mechanism.

Hitler and Mussolini may not have gotten as far as they did if they had been fought much earlier.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
37. Hatred is a parasite
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:38 PM
Aug 2021

that consumes all of your other qualities. As Mark Twain noted, bitterness contaminates the vessel that contains it. Since hatred and bitterness are a choice, I will say they are not a good option.

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