Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Kaleva

(36,342 posts)
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 08:42 PM Aug 2021

"Scientists fear a critical Atlantic Ocean system might collapse"

"Scientists fear a critical Atlantic Ocean system might collapse, triggering 'extreme cold' and sea level rise

Scientists are worried the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), a "critical aquatic conveyer belt" that drives currents in the Atlantic Ocean, is at risk of near-complete collapse due to climate change, The Washington Post reports.

A shutdown of the crucial circulation system could "bring extreme cold to Europe and parts of North America, raise sea levels along the U.S. East Coast, and disrupt seasonal monsoons that provide water to much of the world," the Post reports. The effects, in short, would be devastating.

"The mere possibility that the AMOC tipping point is close should be enough for us to take countermeasures," warns Levke Caesar, a climate physicist at Maynooth University."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientists-fear-critical-atlantic-ocean-214801130.html

22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"Scientists fear a critical Atlantic Ocean system might collapse" (Original Post) Kaleva Aug 2021 OP
Berlin, Germany is as north as James Bay in Ontario, Canada. roamer65 Aug 2021 #1
I'm not sure how many people realize that the southernmost major city in Europe.... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #13
things are getting interesting. Grasswire2 Aug 2021 #2
That's the triggering event in The Day After Tomorrow film Doc Sportello Aug 2021 #3
That is exactly what I thought of. nt Lisa0825 Aug 2021 #4
For those who have seen the movie ... Doc Sportello Aug 2021 #5
Clip, The Day After Tomorrow movie, whoa! appalachiablue Aug 2021 #7
That movie is hilariously bad. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #9
I recall a climatologist saying it was to climatology what "Frankenstein" was to brain surgery. Dial H For Hero Aug 2021 #17
No joke but The Day After Tomorrow was based off a book by Art Bell maryellen99 Aug 2021 #18
Art Bell. Such a reliable source. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #20
Scientists have called the movie wildly inaccurate, but I see the current effects of climate change, Lisa0825 Aug 2021 #6
Good points Doc Sportello Aug 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Aug 2021 #19
we don't seem to have the ability to move beyond our greed, politics, and pettiness to survive. NewHendoLib Aug 2021 #8
George Carlin said our species is just circling the drain Doc Sportello Aug 2021 #12
yes. I am 65. the Dubya years made me realize we are toast NewHendoLib Aug 2021 #14
i am nearing/at a point of hopelessness when it comes to the environment nt orleans Aug 2021 #10
You aren't the only one. smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #15
I used to want children. Now in my 50s, I am glad I didn't have any so I don't have to Lisa0825 Aug 2021 #22
Link to The Guardian nitpicker Aug 2021 #16
They're been saying this for years.... LeftInTX Aug 2021 #21

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
1. Berlin, Germany is as north as James Bay in Ontario, Canada.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 08:52 PM
Aug 2021

Imagine the weather in Berlin if this happens.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,377 posts)
13. I'm not sure how many people realize that the southernmost major city in Europe....
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:43 PM
Aug 2021

Athens - is about the same latitude as Washington D.C.

The vast majority of Europe is where Canada is on the planet.

Doc Sportello

(7,529 posts)
3. That's the triggering event in The Day After Tomorrow film
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 09:11 PM
Aug 2021

Setting off a climate catastrophe. Whether it's scientifically accurate or possible I don't know, but most of the northern hemisphere was frozen over in a matter of days. Sleep well.

Doc Sportello

(7,529 posts)
5. For those who have seen the movie ...
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 09:22 PM
Aug 2021

... it definitely adds to the anxiety meter. Mexico is looking better and better.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
9. That movie is hilariously bad.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:19 PM
Aug 2021

At one point it shows instant freezing of everything. Just not possible.

Yeah, climate change is real and it's not good, but it will be NOTHING like that movie.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
6. Scientists have called the movie wildly inaccurate, but I see the current effects of climate change,
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 10:03 PM
Aug 2021

and how disruptive it has already been, and feel like it doesn't have to be a sudden, cataclysmic change (like in the movie) to cause worldwide suffering. It doesn't have to be a new ice age to change life as we know it. Just look at the dramatically increased wildfires in the west, and the almost annual "hundred-year floods" in the Houston area, among others.

The most terrifying question, though, is have we reached the point of no-return?

Doc Sportello

(7,529 posts)
11. Good points
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:34 PM
Aug 2021

Like you said, we have already seen how calamitous the effects have been without something as dramatic as the collapse of the AMOC. I don't like to talk about it with people (especially those with children) but I'm afraid we have reached the point of no return. I read another story the other day about climate scientists preparing to head for the safest place they could find. They might as well. The world isn't taking the actions needed anyway.

Response to Lisa0825 (Reply #6)

NewHendoLib

(60,019 posts)
8. we don't seem to have the ability to move beyond our greed, politics, and pettiness to survive.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:13 PM
Aug 2021

I am just fucking disgusted with our species. we deserve whatever is coming for us.

Doc Sportello

(7,529 posts)
12. George Carlin said our species is just circling the drain
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:38 PM
Aug 2021

It's just coming faster than many expected. I too am disgusted. Growing up in the 60s I was optimistic going forward despite the history of mankind. Oh well.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. You aren't the only one.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 01:17 AM
Aug 2021

I just can't see how it's going to get any better. I think it's too late.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
22. I used to want children. Now in my 50s, I am glad I didn't have any so I don't have to
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:42 PM
Aug 2021

worry about what the world will be like for them.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»"Scientists fear a critic...