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What will the reaction be when there are not enough hospital beds (Original Post) Texaswitchy Aug 2021 OP
repukes DO.NOT.CARE. Skittles Aug 2021 #1
Yep Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #2
They're also blaming Healthcare Workers now for the spread.... OhioChick Aug 2021 #6
omg Skittles Aug 2021 #7
This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2021 #10
:) That's what they say about all of us too. They do care about their Hortensis Aug 2021 #15
'WHY DIDNT SOMEBODY TELL US?!?!'. Volaris Aug 2021 #3
President Biden will be blamed. His poll numbers are already going down mucifer Aug 2021 #4
Yep. Celerity Aug 2021 #13
And Pelosi. For some reason. tanyev Aug 2021 #17
No one will care. They don't even believe there is anyone in the hospitals Takket Aug 2021 #5
This clutterbox1830 Aug 2021 #22
I've read some say Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #38
They are already blaming, with zero evidence, "illegal immigrants Tanuki Aug 2021 #8
They'll blame immigrants. Hell, they're already doing that. Grokenstein Aug 2021 #9
MAGAts don't give a fuck IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2021 #11
Even a magat loves their kid. I guess it's going to take these stupid people GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #57
Hospitals should either refuse willful antivaxers SheltieLover Aug 2021 #12
Absolutely right. roamer65 Aug 2021 #27
Lol SheltieLover Aug 2021 #31
I think they don't want the bad press. roamer65 Aug 2021 #32
I suppose SheltieLover Aug 2021 #35
I hear ya. roamer65 Aug 2021 #37
Sickening SheltieLover Aug 2021 #39
I belong to a family of Nurses, including my wife who is retired. Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #42
So doctors should just throw out the Hippocratic Oath? marie999 Aug 2021 #34
Of course not SheltieLover Aug 2021 #36
Yes! Hi Sheltie Lover! smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #51
Hi SM! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #52
We need better protection for healthcare workers Klaralven Aug 2021 #14
Booster shots are in the works Horse with no Name Aug 2021 #23
I'm evil JustAnotherGen Aug 2021 #16
They are willing to endanger their own families for Trump. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #18
Hospitals should put up a big tent in the parking lot now NotASurfer Aug 2021 #19
Sounds like a plan. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #24
Put willfully unvaxed in tents! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #40
Most hospitals have tents ready to go. Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #44
There will be a H2O Man Aug 2021 #20
School starting with live attendance is a very bad idea imo (at least in many states). You watch. triron Aug 2021 #21
Agreed! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #41
According to the CDC Covid hospitalizations are about 20% of what they were in January. former9thward Aug 2021 #25
In some states they are. LisaL Aug 2021 #28
Yes, actually, they are SheltieLover Aug 2021 #43
I go by the CDC former9thward Aug 2021 #45
Your choice SheltieLover Aug 2021 #46
I go by what I hear "firsthand" n/t OhioChick Aug 2021 #47
Me too! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #48
Yes, I've been following him for a while now... OhioChick Aug 2021 #49
Good practice to read Dr. Ding's twitter! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #50
Yeah, like Eric Ding BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #55
Please feel free to ignore my posts. SheltieLover Aug 2021 #58
Even cranks like Ding get it right now and again BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #59
Harvard epidemiologist a crank? SheltieLover Aug 2021 #60
It's already happening. They don't care. mcar Aug 2021 #26
Billionaires welcome! moondust Aug 2021 #29
In red states and in conservative media President Biden will be blamed. 11 Bravo Aug 2021 #30
Privileged non-vaxers will piss and moan the loudest. lpbk2713 Aug 2021 #33
Huge numbers of Americans will die for Republican power trip. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #53
Already happening. Most hospitals in the South are full and out of beds. Marius25 Aug 2021 #54
I'm sure DeSantis will offer to work COVID shifts in hospitals gulliver Aug 2021 #56
Joe Biden did this! - That will be the reaction from the right. Jim__ Aug 2021 #61

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
1. repukes DO.NOT.CARE.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:26 AM
Aug 2021

they will blame the spread of Covid on IMMIGRANTS....they NEVER take responsibility FOR ANYTHING

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. :) That's what they say about all of us too. They do care about their
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:42 AM
Aug 2021

own children, but for many believing a Covid hoax is part of an evil Democratic plot has been baked in. You know it's bad when very ill patients sincerely believe hospital personnel are lying to them.

Denial is already getting harder and is about to get much harder. But of course it'll still all be the fault of whoever they fear and dislike. The universal mindless reaction.

Takket

(21,528 posts)
5. No one will care. They don't even believe there is anyone in the hospitals
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:40 AM
Aug 2021

They believe hospitals are empty and just make up covid numbers to make drumpf look bad.

clutterbox1830

(395 posts)
22. This
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:33 PM
Aug 2021

That will make up their own facts anyways. A lot of these anti-vaxer believe the vaccine kills more people than Covid. You can't reason with crazy.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
8. They are already blaming, with zero evidence, "illegal immigrants
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 05:29 AM
Aug 2021

pouring across Biden's open borders." It is already the right wing's widely-distributed talking point of the week.

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
9. They'll blame immigrants. Hell, they're already doing that.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 05:33 AM
Aug 2021

And, of course, they're blaming Biden for not "securing the border." (Don't ask what all the National Guardsmen sent from the red states are doing. Maybe they're already back home.)

GoodRaisin

(8,908 posts)
57. Even a magat loves their kid. I guess it's going to take these stupid people
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 02:02 PM
Aug 2021

losing THEIR children for them to wake up from the stupor they have fallen into. Unfortunately that is too late.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
12. Hospitals should either refuse willful antivaxers
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:28 AM
Aug 2021

Or put them in palliative care in empty buildings or tents, as suggested by another DU member yesterday.

Not smart to clog & overwhelm the healthcare system with them.

Accident victims, heart attacks, etc. etc., etc. need space & medical attention they will not get because of the anti-vax hypocrites.

This is so wrong on so many levels.

Like a very poorly written movie script.



roamer65

(36,744 posts)
27. Absolutely right.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:54 PM
Aug 2021


Children first. Willfully unvaccinated covidiots, dead last.

No pun intended…sort of…

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
32. I think they don't want the bad press.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:16 PM
Aug 2021

They are waiting for FEMA and other emergency management to step in.

Meanwhile, children and immunocompromised people die.

Sad, but true.



SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
39. Sickening
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:44 PM
Aug 2021

People's kids are going to die &, per Dr. Ding approx 1 in 12 will struggle with long haul.

Mr.Bill

(24,241 posts)
42. I belong to a family of Nurses, including my wife who is retired.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:49 PM
Aug 2021

You will have a hard time getting any health care worker to not offer the absolute best care possible to every patient. Theoretically, a convict gets the same treatment as a Saint. The ugliest it gets is in disaster scenarios when people get triaged. And even then, it's based on who is savable, not who they are.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
51. Yes! Hi Sheltie Lover!
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 03:18 AM
Aug 2021


That might have been me, or at least I was one of the people calling for the same.

I am so tired of these horrible, selfish people. I don't think any healthcare worker or institution should be forced to go out of their way to save them. They knew the risks and they took their chances. There is no reason that other innocent people should have to suffer for their ignorance and stupidity.
 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
14. We need better protection for healthcare workers
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:32 AM
Aug 2021

They should be given close to 100% immunity by booster shots and by booster shots tailored to the new variants.

We also need better drugs for those who do get sick. Something at least as effective as Tamiflu is for flu.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
23. Booster shots are in the works
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:33 PM
Aug 2021

But it isn’t going to be a 3rd dose of the existing vaccine. There is one on the horizon that helps with some of the variants.

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
16. I'm evil
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 07:55 AM
Aug 2021

They can't be sent to NJ. We did this last year. We then took all of the steps necessary to get vaccinated, slow rolled the opening, offices are still doing half team in, half team out . . .

I've put off sinus surgery for 14 months. They can't come fill up our hospitals.

They LAUGHED at us last year. Said we were brainwashed and it was a plandemic.

We can send ventilators - but in the meantime - we've moved on.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
18. They are willing to endanger their own families for Trump.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 01:57 PM
Aug 2021

Trump took his shot.

Most of the Republicans in Congress did.

These fools will not.

NotASurfer

(2,146 posts)
19. Hospitals should put up a big tent in the parking lot now
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:11 PM
Aug 2021

Call it the contingency plan. If anybody asks, explain that the hospital is saving enough beds for core medical care, L&D, dialysis, cancer treatment, and the emergencies of life like appendectomies. If Covid gets bad enough, all the remaining beds are for patients who can be helped

The tent in the parking lot is for triage. Patients in the best shape can be monitored for a couple hours and sent home to quarantine and self-medicate. Patients who might be treatable wait for a bed to become available. And patients who are simply too sick for the hospital to provide heroic care for, get sent behind a divider and checked every hour or so

Put the tents in the parking lot now as a warning. Then, hope the warning is heeded and we never have to use them

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
24. Sounds like a plan.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:41 PM
Aug 2021

My Grandfather said when he was wounded in WW1 in France the Army set up death tents for those with the Spanish Flu.

Big tents.

Most died but some made it.

Mr.Bill

(24,241 posts)
44. Most hospitals have tents ready to go.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:54 PM
Aug 2021

They even set them up for drills. They drill for specific types of disasters. They have specific written procedures and policies for it.

triron

(21,984 posts)
21. School starting with live attendance is a very bad idea imo (at least in many states). You watch.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:30 PM
Aug 2021

Need to continue remote learning in most places.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
41. Agreed!
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:49 PM
Aug 2021

But in the town I live in, they did not quarantine anyone when they had outbreaks this past year.

Mask mandates? Pfffft - teachers & even principle not wearing them.

former9thward

(31,941 posts)
25. According to the CDC Covid hospitalizations are about 20% of what they were in January.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:50 PM
Aug 2021

And the hospitals were not "overwhelmed" then and they are not now.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/covidnet/COVID19_5.html

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
43. Yes, actually, they are
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:50 PM
Aug 2021

DU posts recently about infant having to be flown 150 miles for care, 25 ICU beds open in all of Arkansas, etc.

Yes they are overwhelmed.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
49. Yes, I've been following him for a while now...
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:51 AM
Aug 2021

He's been on target throughout this entire Pandemic.

As for the CDC, they knew Delta was a VOC (variant of concern) but only labeled it a VOI (variant of interest) for far too long. The WHO even called Delta a VOC for a good month prior to the CDC.

I've lost trust in the CDC after Walensky was on the MSM crying for what was about to come and then did an about face shortly thereafter with the horrible mask recommendation.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
50. Good practice to read Dr. Ding's twitter!
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 02:01 AM
Aug 2021

He has been sounding alarms over delta for quite awhile!

I have to wonder what's up with the CDC?

BannonsLiver

(16,305 posts)
55. Yeah, like Eric Ding
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:50 PM
Aug 2021
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/605644/



By the time of this writing, Feigl-Ding’s thread has roughly triple the likes and retweets of Jabr’s. This is one of the realities of the current information ecosystem: While out-and-out conspiracies and hoaxes will draw some attention, it’s really the stuff that’s close to the boundaries of discourse that grabs the most eyeballs. That is, the information that’s plausible, and that fits into a narrative mounting outside the mainstream, gets the most clicks, likes, and retweets. Bonus points if it’s sensational or something that someone might want to censor. After all, which is more interesting: “HOLY MOTHER OF GOD,” or “the essential data are still being collected and assessed,” as Jabr ended his thread?

moondust

(19,959 posts)
29. Billionaires welcome!
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:56 PM
Aug 2021

In a supply and demand system they just raise the price of everything through the roof to reduce demand, right? Isn't that why the U.S. health care system is what it is? So the fat cats can get whatever they want whenever they want it?

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
30. In red states and in conservative media President Biden will be blamed.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 05:45 PM
Aug 2021

TFG will vomit a spew of incomprehensible gibberish.
Carlson will blame immigrants.
DeathSantis will ban social distancing mandates.
Maria Bartiromo will climb into the nearest wine bottle and gurgle about how it wouldn't have happened under Trump.
A whole host of Republican assholes will continue to ignore even the most basic precautions, causing countless Go Fund Me accounts to appear.
Steven Miller will still be a shitweasel.

lpbk2713

(42,738 posts)
33. Privileged non-vaxers will piss and moan the loudest.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:22 PM
Aug 2021


And they will be pointing their fingers in every direction but at themselves.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
53. Huge numbers of Americans will die for Republican power trip.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 10:40 AM
Aug 2021

Just ignore what is going on and try to act like it is normal.

Sick Republicans.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
54. Already happening. Most hospitals in the South are full and out of beds.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 10:52 AM
Aug 2021

Florida hospitals are running out of oxygen for Covid patients.

Louisiana just had to shut down some Emergency Rooms so they could move staff from there to the ICU wards.

Texas is so full, Houston (which has the largest medical complex on Earth), had to fly an 11-month old girl 150 miles away to get treatment for Covid.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
56. I'm sure DeSantis will offer to work COVID shifts in hospitals
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:55 PM
Aug 2021

Otherwise, people might start to think he's a typical Republico-Trumpie jerk.

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