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orangecrush

(25,671 posts)
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:26 AM Aug 2021

CNN NOW DESCRIBING 1/6 AS "ATTEMPTED COUP"



The full picture of Trump’s attempted coup is only starting to emerge


President Donald Trump – back in the final days of his presidency – didn’t exactly make a secret of his effort to overturn the election he’d just lost and so it’s very easy to get tired of thinking about it, now that he’s out of office and his official powers have been clipped.

But in addition to the lies he was spreading all along, we continue to learn new and disturbing details about his obstinate and pernicious efforts to poison the system from within, which included an “Apprentice”-style showdown between two top Justice Department officials at the White House and threats of resignation.

Timeline: What Georgia prosecutors are looking at as they investigate Trump’s efforts to overturn the election

Woven together, they show that Trump’s assault on democracy, which looks more and more like an attempted coup, was even more reckless and insistent than previously thought.

The recent news includes these items:

Trump pressured acting DOJ officials like acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen on December 27 to “Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen,” according to the notes of acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue’s notes, shared with House investigators.

A day later, on December 28, at least one acting DOJ official, Jeffrey Clark, who was in charge of the civil division, apparently bought into Trump’s lies, or wanted to assuage him, and drafted a letter suggesting there were election irregularities in the election (there weren’t), but it was rebuffed by other top acting officials.
Officials like Rosen’s chief of staff Patrick Hovakimian drafted letters of resignation in case his boss was pushed out in favor of Clark.
CNN’s Marshall Cohen, Jason Morris, Christopher Hickey and Will Mullery have put together an in-depth timeline of Trump’s efforts to corrupt the US government and the Georgia government. It is exhaustive and shocking.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/what-matters-trump-doj-coup/index.html


The dam is breaking.

I hope the consequences take down all who bought into this treason.
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CNN NOW DESCRIBING 1/6 AS "ATTEMPTED COUP" (Original Post) orangecrush Aug 2021 OP
It has been the chyron for a couple of days now. madaboutharry Aug 2021 #1
Nancy and House committee orangecrush Aug 2021 #3
I'd add "an attempted coup culminating in a violent act of domestic terrorism that killed five" Justice matters. Aug 2021 #31
It's tipping! marble falls Aug 2021 #2
A big question for me orangecrush Aug 2021 #4
Especially since we KNOW these twerps aren't going to honor a subpoena, right? flying_wahini Aug 2021 #5
Oh, trust me! MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #34
Congress is doing that right now. They send their findings to the Justice Department ... marble falls Aug 2021 #6
Congratulations from Captain Obvious. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #7
It came faster than it took them most to call Trump's lies lies. [nt] Nexus2 Aug 2021 #9
time to lock up the coup plotters! Blues Heron Aug 2021 #8
As I've Stated Previously wyn borkins Aug 2021 #10
"Leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen" dalton99a Aug 2021 #11
Thank you Dalton! orangecrush Aug 2021 #17
Thanks for the reminder! America needs these reality checks right now. KPN Aug 2021 #23
'Bout time. 2naSalit Aug 2021 #12
Thing is now he has years to get professional planning for the next time UTUSN Aug 2021 #13
They did not succeed orangecrush Aug 2021 #16
Yeah, before the professional planning makes it work. UTUSN Aug 2021 #18
And before orangecrush Aug 2021 #19
A planned, organized and financed attempted coup. C_U_L8R Aug 2021 #14
McConnell, Cruz, Hawley, McCarthy, Scalise, etc. etc. etc. Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #15
I'm not sure about McConnell..... SergeStorms Aug 2021 #32
ITs it me but i have not heard much from Jim Jordan lately .... ace3csusm Aug 2021 #35
An attempted coup peggysue2 Aug 2021 #20
New evidence reveals TFG came a lot closer to pulling off a coup than any of us realized LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #21
really telling when he did the sig heil salute .( banned in germany, automatic goto jail card ) AllaN01Bear Aug 2021 #38
Yay! About time! KPN Aug 2021 #22
call it like it is - attempted treason ! life in Prison or hanging! no in-between!! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #24
Absolutely! robertpaulsen Aug 2021 #44
Slowly everyone is reaching where we reached malaise Aug 2021 #25
But it isn't over orangecrush Aug 2021 #28
They will fail again malaise Aug 2021 #29
About f'ing time! BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #26
Indeed! Duppers Aug 2021 #33
Thank you! BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #50
good. media needs to stop referring to this as a "riot" Takket Aug 2021 #27
We were extremely lucky orangecrush Aug 2021 #30
Took 'em long enough. Grins Aug 2021 #36
the tide is turning for lard lips . AllaN01Bear Aug 2021 #37
You allow facts and truth to lead the awakening bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #39
How many of the attacker admitted that was their goal on the cameras that day? lindysalsagal Aug 2021 #40
of course llashram Aug 2021 #41
Fair enough. calimary Aug 2021 #42
Great progression. From ATTEMPTED COUP next needs to be TRUMP TREASON! robertpaulsen Aug 2021 #43
No It wasnt a coup Prichards115 Aug 2021 #45
No, you are wrong. mnhtnbb Aug 2021 #48
K&R bluewater Aug 2021 #46
Good. MiroJarvis Aug 2021 #47
Kudos to CNN for using 'coup' in the headline crickets Aug 2021 #49
Been saying it since day 1 JCMach1 Aug 2021 #51
Only difference is I prefer the term: Trumphole.Putsch JCMach1 Aug 2021 #52
They're Right COL Mustard Aug 2021 #53
A violent, deadly attempted coup. twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #54

madaboutharry

(41,971 posts)
1. It has been the chyron for a couple of days now.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:29 AM
Aug 2021

Call it by its name. It was an attempted coup and the list of co-conspirators is long.

Justice matters.

(8,644 posts)
31. I'd add "an attempted coup culminating in a violent act of domestic terrorism that killed five"
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:55 AM
Aug 2021
instigated by a lying domestic terrorist's refusal to accept defeat in order to try to avoid prison for his crimes" but that's probably too long a headline...

orangecrush

(25,671 posts)
4. A big question for me
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:33 AM
Aug 2021


Is once all the information is gathered, how to you proceed to deal with such widespread rot and corruption?

flying_wahini

(8,117 posts)
5. Especially since we KNOW these twerps aren't going to honor a subpoena, right?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:37 AM
Aug 2021


When they are cuffed and arrested Magats will lose their shit, whatever is left of it.

marble falls

(67,018 posts)
6. Congress is doing that right now. They send their findings to the Justice Department ...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:42 AM
Aug 2021

... and other entities, like SDNY or the Manhattan DA or the other grand juries actively looking to indict him have access to the evidence and charges.

He's going down, the skids are greased.

wyn borkins

(1,372 posts)
10. As I've Stated Previously
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:45 AM
Aug 2021

I would like to see orange-on-orange in the morning...and before Halloween (!)

C_U_L8R

(47,681 posts)
14. A planned, organized and financed attempted coup.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:58 AM
Aug 2021

and this conspiracy includes the cover-up.

These traitors should all receive a fitting punishment.

SergeStorms

(19,670 posts)
32. I'm not sure about McConnell.....
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:35 PM
Aug 2021

he never went "all in" for the orange colostomy bag, but the rest on that list.......oh yeah. Accessories to all of MF45's crimes, and all very worthy of their very own orange jump suits.

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
35. ITs it me but i have not heard much from Jim Jordan lately ....
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:47 PM
Aug 2021

After that interview where he was asked if he spoke to TFG on 1/6 and it finally sinked in thats he's in trouble...

peggysue2

(12,025 posts)
20. An attempted coup
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:38 AM
Aug 2021

During which the Republican Party and its House and Senate members were complicit. Not all but a large enough contingent to provide inside help and assistance in overturning the US government.

These are seditionists and they all belong in jail for a very long time!

Not to investigate and charge is an invitation to a redo.

Nancy Pelosi is the Boss. to her and our Democratic Reps, men and women who still believe in our democratic Republic. We owe them a lot.

AllaN01Bear

(26,445 posts)
38. really telling when he did the sig heil salute .( banned in germany, automatic goto jail card )
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:50 PM
Aug 2021

Takket

(23,085 posts)
27. good. media needs to stop referring to this as a "riot"
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:47 AM
Aug 2021

Once you are committing violent acts for the purpose of disrupting and overthrowing the duly elected government, you are not just a "riot" anymore. Now you are an insurrection and coup.

orangecrush

(25,671 posts)
30. We were extremely lucky
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:51 AM
Aug 2021


Had the scum gut to reps, the outcome would have been far different.

bucolic_frolic

(51,472 posts)
39. You allow facts and truth to lead the awakening
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:51 PM
Aug 2021

This is why you don't rush in 3 months ago and start charging people at the top of the pyramid. The shock value of 1/6 had a lot of the public blitzed. Now the pattern, the preponderance of the evidence, many corroborating story lines all converging on similar conclusions. This may be how we get through this. But we still have to balance voting rights that prevent other means of election theft.

lindysalsagal

(22,717 posts)
40. How many of the attacker admitted that was their goal on the cameras that day?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:52 PM
Aug 2021

It's all on film. They were putting tfg in the office with violence. They were bragging about it.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
41. of course
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 01:16 PM
Aug 2021

they wanted to kill progressive leaders of our democracy. Execute them on live television. RW fascist attempted coup? YES!!!

calimary

(87,056 posts)
42. Fair enough.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 01:26 PM
Aug 2021

Sure looks like it, sounds like it, more so with every new police video being released from that day.

If it quacks like a duck...

robertpaulsen

(8,697 posts)
43. Great progression. From ATTEMPTED COUP next needs to be TRUMP TREASON!
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 02:05 PM
Aug 2021

That means life in prison at a minimum.

 

Prichards115

(37 posts)
45. No It wasnt a coup
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 02:44 PM
Aug 2021

Coups REQUIRE the support of the military and they didn't have it. Coups require precise timing and coordination, from Donny Dipshit, get fucking real. It was a mob of pissed off racist whites. Yes people were in danger, but there was absolutely ZERO chance the properly elected gov't was going to be overthrown! Whomever stated this on CNN is a goddamned moron is looking for shock value and ratings.

mnhtnbb

(32,643 posts)
48. No, you are wrong.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:11 PM
Aug 2021
Definition of coup d'état

: a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coup%20d'%C3%A9tat


The events of January 6th fit the dictionary definition of an attempted coup d'état.

crickets

(26,158 posts)
49. Kudos to CNN for using 'coup' in the headline
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:55 PM
Aug 2021

and for the extensive internal links, particularly to the timeline of what went on in Georgia. Yikes. But I will quibble with their statement that, "it’s very easy to get tired of thinking about it." NO. No it is not. We are not tired at all of thinking about what happened and what needs to be done about it.

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