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As Americans again grapple with the question of whether they should dine out, public health experts and epidemiologists agree on one thing: There is no such thing as zero risk. There are only degrees of risk, no matter your vaccination status or the damage the delta variant has done to your community.
Saskia Popescu, infectious-disease epidemiologist and assistant professor at George Mason University, likes to frame the question as a risk assessment. She says you should look at three factors before deciding whether you should dine at a restaurant: your vaccination status, the level of coronavirus transmission in your community (as determined by the Centers for Disease Control and Preventions Data Tracker) and your personal risk assessment (are you immunocompromised or do you share your home with someone who is vulnerable or cant be vaccinated yet?).
Popescu, for example, resides in Phoenix, in Maricopa County, where the transmission rate is high, which really sucks, she said, because its 110 degrees outside. She doesnt feel like dining under the summer sun where a customer can feel as fried as a bucket of chicken.
I really am just not leaning into dining indoors right now, Popescu said. Being indoors is a high-risk activity when youre dining because youre eating and youre drinking. You have no mask on. Theres a bunch of other people whose vaccine status you dont really know and who are also unmasked. Youre there for prolonged periods of time. I look at all of those, and thats how I make an informed decision. So its not black-and-white.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2021/08/05/restaurants-indoor-dining-delta-variant/
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)I miss eat outs a lot but I will be avoiding it for the foreseeable future.
BannonsLiver
(16,362 posts)I was surprised to learn that one of our most prolific Covid posters who often cautions others on their behavior regularly eats at restaurants. I havent been inside a restaurant since February 2020.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)I was constantly infected with colds, flu, stomach viruses. Viruses spread fast in a restaurant. I've gotten takeout and delivery since the pandemic started, but I'm not brave enough to sit in a restaurant and eat.
zuul
(14,624 posts)Theres no getting around the fact that your server has to stand over you multiple times during a meal, spewing Christ-knows-what over you. Even if theyre masked and vaccinated, Im not taking that chance.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)As you say, just not the wisest thing to do right now.
marble falls
(57,072 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I went to an Asian buffet Monday. Git there at 11am. Place was empty & I requested seating far away from areas where others would be seated.
Shoveled in my food & got out before it got busy.
1st since Feb 2020 & last time for the foreseeable future.
Tree Lady
(11,447 posts)In or out, after vaccine she still said to stay out and now neither.
They know how easy it is for things to spread. And with my sinus issues and high blood pressure she knows how it would affect me.
I bet doctors are tired of watching their clients not follow advice.
I have eaten out a few times mostly outside but in May a few times inside when cases were down.
I feel sorry for restaurants and wonder how long they can stay in business.
Mme. Defarge
(8,027 posts)I have not eaten indoors at a restaurant since February 2020, but was was just starting to enjoy the outdoor dining scene when the phenomenon of breakthrough cases of delta became news. Of course I am fully vaccinated, but have multiple risk factors and have since shied away from outdoor dining wondering if its actually riskier than being portrayed.
beaglelover
(3,465 posts)JoanofArgh
(14,971 posts)going out for lunch , dinner a couple times a week but we were going early before the restaurant got packed. Just checked our county and we'll be doing take out only for the time being.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)that everything in life is six to five against" - Damon Runyon
My wife and I regularly go out to eat, generally outdoors because in CT it's nice.
We've been doing it since restaurants opened up, before there was a vaccine. The plus side then was there was hardly anyone else in the place. We wanted to support local businesses.
You assess the odds, you make your choice.
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BannonsLiver
(16,362 posts)Were doing the same. Weve been doing takeout exclusively from local businesses since it started.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Chainfire
(17,527 posts)Along with all other events that pack people in. If the right wants to mix and match viruses in restaurants, it is fine with me, but I don't intend to participate. I went for 14 months without doing it, and I seem to have suffered no ill effects from the decision; I can do another 14 months standing on my head...What fools like DeSantis don't realize is that the doesn't have the power he thinks he has to keep businesses open as normal.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Pretty empty, and we didn't stay long. We're vaccinated, and are masked except while eating. Used the ordering kiosk and they delivered the food to the table.
On the way home, we did take out.
PortTack
(32,754 posts)Restaurants. The park: table for 2 by the water, geese and ducks squawking for entertainment, no noisy rude ppl at the next table. Its great!
FakeNoose
(32,626 posts)The ones that couldn't build up their carry-out during the last year are mostly closed for good. I try to patronize my favorite restaurants occasionally, but I only get carry-out. It's not worth the risk.
There are still a lot of mask-wearers in Pittsburgh, but I'm seeing fewer during the summer months.
beaglelover
(3,465 posts)maxsolomon
(33,285 posts)I went to visit my elderly father in Ohio. I have a vaccine, my wife has a vaccine, my Dad has a vaccine, his girlfriend has a vaccine, my siblings have a vaccine, their kids have a vaccine.
I went out to eat, maskless, indoors, probably 10 times. Lunch & Dinner. All around us the people of Cincinnati also dined unmasked. the restaurant workers were unmasked. It felt really strange, but also pretty great.
I went to an MLS game unmasked, along with >10,000 other people.
I didn't get sick. No one got sick.
We were about to win this, and now we're right back where we started, because of selfish, childish, petulant assholes.
Raftergirl
(1,285 posts)Met a friend for coffee at the coffee shop.
We have only dined once outside and that was about 6 weeks ago.
I wont even do that anymore and Im in a highly vaxxed community.
tanyev
(42,544 posts)in late September. Its a small town, so the main event is just getting together at a bar/restaurant for a few hours. I figured it had been called off or postponed because I hadnt seen any posts about it in a while. Turns out Facebook was deciding which posts it thought I wanted to see. Effing Facebook. They had a post late July to vote on the preferred weekend and not one person responded with Say, maybe we should wait until next year. Its too dangerous to do this now. This is year 40, so none of us have any room to be cocky. Needless to say, I will not be there.