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The following is a transcript of the August 6, 2001, presidential daily briefing entitled Bin Laden determined to strike in US. Parts of the original document were not made public by the White House for security reasons.
Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America."
After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a -- -- service.
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Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
https://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
Bush knew what was coming down 20 years ago today and, much like Trump with COVID-19, sat on his ass and let hell rain down on the country he was supposed to be protecting.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)Incapable, rich, entitled stupid, sociopathic ex- president. Like his daddy was.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)Incompetence - thy name is REPUBLICAN!
soldierant
(6,857 posts)I never put it past a Republican to deliberately set up chaos and harm to Americans in order to have a talking point to push some harmful measure or other which will only make things worse.
And that isn't incompetence. It is malice.
mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)Kill
Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)US casualties after the orange terrorist LIED: 615,000 (approx.)
leftstreet
(36,107 posts)yeah I didn't think so
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)erronis
(15,241 posts)Relegated by wikipedia to "conspiracy theories"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIHOP&redirect=no
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)There were other red flags flying that summer that didn't get acted on. I always figured that the "shock" Bush was showing when he heard about 9/11 was not that something happened, but about how bad it was. They expected a simple bombing or hijacking, not a sophisticated plot aimed at several targets of economic and political significance involving multiple aircraft in near simultaneous attacks.
They made the classic mistake of underestimating our enemies and the US paid for it.
electric_blue68
(14,891 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,755 posts)Bush was/is an idiot in a lot of ways (so... so many ways) but I don't think he intentionally tried to kill Americans. From your link, the end of the PDB:
"The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."
Bush did not stop the investigations, publicly denounce them, brag about his love letters with Bin Laden or any of the other insane, traitorous and murderous things TFG did... Not even close.
robertpaulsen
(8,632 posts)But I'll respectfully disagree about the magnitude. What Bush and Cheney did was criminally negligent and that they faced no consequences emboldened Republicans to take things to the next level, hence Drumpf. They used their criminal negligence on 9/11 to exploit a scared populace into supporting an unnecessary war based on false pretexts that killed thousands more Americans than died on 9/11 and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. I'll grant you Cheeto Mussolini has a higher body count, but I hope we can agree not to downplay Bush/Cheney - their sociopathy paved the way for the sickness we see in our body politic today.
Ohio Joe
(21,755 posts)Your OP though reads as though you are saying he intentionally let 9/11 happen:
"Bush knew what was coming down 20 years ago today and, much like Trump with COVID-19, sat on his ass and let hell rain down on the country he was supposed to be protecting."
I do not agree at all and I don't think the PDB proves it. And every time I see it used as supposed proof of letting it happen, the end is always conveniently left out. Lets deal with what is and not what we want things to be. I do not downplay anything... I try not to overplay either.
I would also disagree with this statement:
" their sociopathy paved the way for the sickness we see in our body politic today."
I myself place them as a cog in the march to where we are today. It was Reagan who paved the way IMO.
SergeStorms
(19,200 posts)"Now watch this drive".
Baby Bush had much more important things on his mind.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.
Takket
(21,563 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)for a REALITY CHECK - "HOW in the hell can we let them GET AWAY WITH THIS SHIT!?!"
(we now return to our regular "but they all do it" bullshit.........)
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)Conservative wish list to pay attention. Now watch this drive. Fucking republicans
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)niyad
(113,284 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)then Cheney, et al, used it to further their anti-American agenda of war, torture, imprisonment without due process and invasive searches. The Patriot Act and the second part (that they did not get passed, at least).
twodogsbarking
(9,739 posts)Champp
(2,114 posts)Shame on the Republicans for failing to defend America.
Pas-de-Calais
(9,904 posts)From the whole terrible spectacle. Too many stove pipe information stacks preventing sharing of information.
Too big to move, to decide a course of action
Another GOP behemoth sucking down tax money
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)That's what he ran on.
This country cant stop gusling down right wing gas lighting.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)inanna
(3,547 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,281 posts)I was with the Bush Knew and "let it happen anyway" for years, but it has occurred to me, that maybe he really didn't know after all.
Condi knew. Dick Cheney knew. George Tenet knew. Rumsfeld knew. Probably Andrew Card and Scotter Libby knew too.
The problem is people in position to know, knew.
And there hasn't been any accountability and never will be. At least not in our Justice System.
twodogsbarking
(9,739 posts)down our throats and up our collective asses for decades.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)The CIA warned the US president, George Bush, weeks before September 11 that al-Qaida terrorists might hijack US aeroplanes, the White House admitted yesterday.
Mr Bush is believed to have received the warning in August last year as part of his regular intelligence briefing while on vacation at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. The president was not warned that the planes might be used as missiles to destroy buildings, his official spokesperson said.
"There has been longstanding speculation, shared with the president, about the potential of hijackings in the traditional sense," the White House press secretary, Ari Fleischer, said yesterday. "We had general threats involving Osama bin Laden around the world and including in the United States." He said the administration, acting on the information received in early August, notified the "appropriate agencies" that hijackings "in the traditional sense" were possible. The warning was never made public, he said.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,281 posts)Just the same, it is possible he didn't effin know what it said or meant.
We didn't call him Pres. Dumbya for no reason.
That dude was really stupid. He was protected by all the people who knew exactly what the hell was going on and what the memo said and meant.
Initech
(100,068 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,599 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)That day contributed to the downfall of America we are seeing, today. Would that it did not.