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Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:01 PM

Tomorrow would be a good day for Diane Feinstein to retire

She is very old. Her mental state is questionable. The Governor may be recalled.

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Reply Tomorrow would be a good day for Diane Feinstein to retire (Original post)
Peppertoo Aug 2021 OP
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #1
themaguffin Aug 2021 #15
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #17
Sewa Aug 2021 #18
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #19
Sewa Aug 2021 #20
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #28
themaguffin Aug 2021 #23
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #24
themaguffin Aug 2021 #66
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #67
themaguffin Aug 2021 #68
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #69
Peppertoo Aug 2021 #22
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #26
Hekate Aug 2021 #58
BlueLucy Aug 2021 #61
msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #32
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #36
msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #39
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #42
msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #45
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #48
Hoyt Aug 2021 #2
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #3
msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #33
Hortensis Aug 2021 #62
Hekate Aug 2021 #4
msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #34
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #49
msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #51
Hortensis Aug 2021 #63
msongs Aug 2021 #5
ripcord Aug 2021 #6
Deuxcents Aug 2021 #7
Bev54 Aug 2021 #8
Sewa Aug 2021 #9
Skittles Aug 2021 #10
Sewa Aug 2021 #11
Skittles Aug 2021 #13
Hortensis Aug 2021 #64
pnwmom Aug 2021 #12
Hekate Aug 2021 #14
Peppertoo Aug 2021 #21
Celerity Aug 2021 #25
SYFROYH Aug 2021 #16
Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #27
Hortensis Aug 2021 #65
totodeinhere Aug 2021 #29
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #31
msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #35
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #40
msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #43
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #47
Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #53
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #54
Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #55
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #56
msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #37
totodeinhere Aug 2021 #59
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #60
totodeinhere Aug 2021 #30
David__77 Aug 2021 #38
maxsolomon Aug 2021 #41
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #44
maxsolomon Aug 2021 #52
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #57
Initech Aug 2021 #46
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #50
Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #70
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #71
Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #72
JohnSJ Aug 2021 #73

Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:03 PM

1. Are you from California, and are you a doctor? Who are you to question her mental state?

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:30 PM

15. I absofuckinglutely question her mental state.

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Response to themaguffin (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:00 PM

17. Are you from California? Do you know her voting record? Gee I guess when Graham fist bumped

VP Harris that must of really made your head explode

YOU are NOT the one who decides. All the voters in California decide, and up to now the majority of us in California has decided she is a good Senator for our state




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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:29 PM

18. Her actions and lack of good judgment effects everyone

Sen. Feinstein undercut the Democratic candidate in SC Jaime Harrison by praising Graham. Then the infamous maskless hug.

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Response to Sewa (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:50 PM

19. Are you from California? She did not undercut Jamie Harrison in SC. Harrison did remarkably

well in SC, and expanded Democrats vision of what is possible in deep red states

He ran a campaign on massive registration of African Americans, but also tried to attract white voters who ha become disillusioned by Graham, by exploiting Grahamís flip-flopping, along with the fact that grahamís friendship with trump did little to benefit the state

Unfortunately the pandemic forced Harrison to pause his aggressive voter-registration effort, where he planned to tour across every county in SC, where he moved online where rural residents lack adequate internet speeds.

Republicans had no qualms about in-person campaigning, along with the partisan lean of the state along with trumpís popularity there.

Harrisonís loss had nothing to do with Feinstein. It was an uphill battle from the start, and he did extraordinarily well under the circumstances

Stacy Abrams demonstrated how it could be done, and Harrison almost did it

The populace in SC could give a ratís ass what a liberal Senator from California did

https://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Dianne_Feinstein.htm




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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #19)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:08 PM

20. You can spin it anyway you like, but I saw Harrison's poll

numbers drop after Feinstein made her comments praising Graham. She hurt a Democratic candidate and that isnít acceptable.

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Response to Sewa (Reply #20)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:32 PM

28. It isn't a spin. Jamie Harrison lost in SC by the same amount that Biden did, and implying

that it was because of Feinstein is ridiculous

Why donít you tell me if you are from California or not?

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:49 PM

23. Oh ffs. I did NOT say that I decide skippy. My comment isn't based on the picture alone. JFC

Last edited Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:13 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to themaguffin (Reply #23)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:23 PM

24. Don't call me skippy. You still didn't answer my question, are you

from California? It seems no one wants to say for some reason

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 08:44 AM

66. Your condescending comment earned a skippy.

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Response to themaguffin (Reply #66)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 08:57 AM

67. Talk about condescending, look in the mirror jack

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #67)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:31 AM

68. You are the one who responded to me. If you had responded differently, my response and tone would be

different skippy.

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Response to themaguffin (Reply #68)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:58 AM

69. I don't think it accomplishes anything to further this pissing contest with you maguffin

It is neither positive nor productive for anyone

Let's just end this on a positive note, and vote this recall down

Have a good day

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:41 PM

22. Her mental state has been questioned publicly

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Response to Peppertoo (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:26 PM

26. Are you from California? Why doesn't anyone answer that question?

Who, questions it, the sunrise movement?

I didnít see anyone questioning if Nina Turner was was all together when she compared Biden to a bowl of s**t, and then blame her loss on outside money, when Turner raised significantly more money from the outside

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Response to Peppertoo (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:11 PM

58. So has Joe Biden's. Does that make it true?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #58)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:43 AM

61. It has been credibly questioned.

It's not a secret. No one denies it.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:55 PM

32. I'm from California, and I completely agree. Straw man question is just that.

No one needs to be a Dr of any kind to recognize her mental state is NOT up to par.

She needs to resign, before our recall election. PERIOD. It's effin obvious why.'

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #32)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:10 PM

36. Finally. She isn't going to resign. The majority of us in California voted for her to serve her

term out

It isnít a straw man question. It is up to us who live in California.
Should Sanders, Leahy and other older Democrats not run in the next election? No one seems to be concerned with those situations. I wonder if they even know her voting record

Have you received your informational voting pamphlet?

I received mine today

The postage paid mail in ballot should give us an advantage

I have been doing call banking for Newsom since last weekend

I think the recall will be defeated

This is the third recall attempt against Newsom, and it only succeeded this time because a jackass judge extended the time to gather signatures by three months



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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #36)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:19 PM

39. Mine hasn't arrived yet. SoS website says they're on their way to our mail boxes

checked the site a few hours ago. I'm planning a trip and on'e be back before election day, so i really need my ballot soon.

I'm NERVOUS about this recall. In fact you could say I'm scared shitless this is going to go south on us. Dems were the majority of registered voters when Gray got recalled. you do remember that right?

For California, the problem has always been about turnout. ESPECIALL on the off year elections and special elections.

Every freakin time it goes bad for us.

I can't remember when it ever went the way it should have, HAD every registered Dem VOTED.

They don't. that's why we lose when we do.

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #39)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:36 PM

42. We are all nervous, and I think that is good because it should be a motivator

I was not referring to the actual ballot, that will be in about two weeks

I was referring to the voter information guide

Turn out has a different meaning because of the mail in ballot postage paid

As I said I am doing call banking along with others throughout California to motivate people to vote



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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #42)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:42 PM

45. Thank you for that work. And what about up northern part of the state that's suffering from raging

fires? I'm wondering how many people have been displaced again.


this recall is a Koch brothers and Federalists Society funded deal. I hate them. I want to see them go the way of the NRA.

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #45)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:53 PM

48. I agree

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:21 PM

2. Trust her and voters to decide if she should stay or something else.

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:25 PM

3. Exactly

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:59 PM

33. you guys are unbelievable

As a Californian, I would very much like the United States Senate to be a Democratic Majority.

And the DEMOCRATIC Party definitely NEEDS TWO DEMOCRATIC SENATORS in the UNITED STATES SENATE.

I can't believe the response here. where the hell am I, FOX LAND?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:00 AM

62. As you say, voters' decision. California voters.

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:27 PM

4. Thank you for your input. Now Shut. Up.

Signed,
A Californian

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Response to Hekate (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:01 PM

34. Me too. I'm a Californian. I ain't shutting up

Things are really not looking good for this recall. You do realize that right?


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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #34)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:56 PM

49. Let's Just vote down the recall

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #49)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:10 PM

51. agree. you and I will. I have convinced others how important this is.

But I can't reach out to everyone who needs to be pushed to fill it out and mail it in.

insane as it may seem. I'm worried about apathy resulting in low turnout.

I don't have my voter info booklet yet, but i have read the list of names who tossed their hat in on this race. I think I recall paging through 3 pages of list of names. it was jaw dropping.

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #34)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:09 AM

63. Of course not. And quarrels and dissention are good. They

prove who cares more and of course who's right.

The OP kicked up a shitstorm. Even though he or she doesn't seem to be from California, obviously thanks are owed for providing this opportunity.

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:35 PM

5. oddly enuff on DU it' considered a good thing that justice breyer retire as soon as possible nt

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:44 PM

6. Wonderful message

"Thank you for you service, dont let the door hit your ass on the way out".

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:12 PM

7. This could have been an interesting topic

Maybe youíre approach could use a better invitation for discussion

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:45 PM

8. Get these votes over with first please

It will take time to appoint a replacement.

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 01:55 AM

9. Any day would be a good day

Itís past time for her to do the right thing and retire. 💀🤙

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 01:58 AM

10. now is an even better time for Trump to go to jail

ya know?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:05 AM

11. This thread is about Senator Feinstein

These bait n switch tactics are childish. 💀🤙

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Response to Sewa (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 04:15 AM

13. maybe it's saying things that ain't gonna happen

even though they SHOULD

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Response to Sewa (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:11 AM

64. Is it really? I see the whole thing as a bait tactic. Enjoy the quarrel. nt

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:40 AM

12. Let's rephrase. Wouldn't it be awful if Newsome is recalled and replaced by a Republican.

AND then Senator Feinstein dies or retires -- and the new Republican Governor appoints her replacement?

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:49 PM

14. Yes indeed it would, & sounds a lot better than calling her senile & at death's door

Let us hope Newsom survives, for every reason imaginable. The leading GOP candidate thinks the proper minimum wage is $0.00.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:41 PM

21. Yes All the more reason for her to retire now.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:25 PM

25. +1

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:33 PM

16. There comes a time when every old guard should give it up even though they can keep it.


In my field, we tell our colleague friends to tell us when it's time to go.

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:32 PM

27. I'm from California.

Our state legislature needs to pass a law like they have in some states that any governor making a Congressional appointment must choose someone of the same party as the person who vacated that office. Problem solved, and it's a very fair law.

I might add that I believe as long as Feinstein has a pulse, she will not resign.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:15 AM

65. This. Good sense.

I suspect that as long as Feinstein is still generally sharp and feels she has much to offer, and has very highly qualified assistants to remind her of any slipped details, she won't resign, or need to.

Also that as long as she is in office she will draw far more criticism -- harsh, hostile criticism -- than the contemporaneous crop of elderly male senators put together. It takes a lot more than a century to change attitudes implanted over millennia.

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:34 PM

29. What does the recall election have to do with Senator Feinstein?

She has severed a long time. Let her serve out her term. That's the least we owe her.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #29)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:51 PM

31. Nothing. It is the usual Feinstein haters that are assuming Newsom will be recalled, and

Feinstein will die under the new Governor., and then a Republican would replace her

That could happen to a number of Senators, Leahy, Sanders, etc. with republican governors, but it is Feinstein who concerns them

The people in California will make that decision

I received my recall information ballot today, and have been phone banking for Newsom

I donít think the recall will be successful

Every registered voter will be sent a mail in ballot with a postage paid stamp, and California insures all votes are counted. There are 45% registered Democrats and 20 some percent republicans, and the majority of no party preference, lean progressive

The odds are that the the recall will lose

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #31)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:05 PM

35. We Dems seem to think these special elections will go in our favor, it rarely does because of low

voter turn out.

But you know that right?

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #35)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:21 PM

40. Voter turnout out? Every registered voter will receive a MAIL IN BALLOT

Postage paid

Contrary to the views of some there is a lot of enthusiasm and interest in this recall

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #40)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:36 PM

43. It may surprise you to how many of my neighbors tossed out their mailed in ballots in 2020

because they forgot about and it put it to the side, and waited too late to fill it out and mail it in time.

And that was a Presidential Election of huge consequences. Election? What Election? Didn't we just have one?

Lot's of these people in my complex. Seniors, mostly women. Getting by. Certainly knew when Gov. Newsom sent $600 to us, and stimulus funds for SNAP since the shutdown began last year. Oh yeah, but it when comes to voting, meh.

I'm pounding on their doors reminding them the election is coming, "oh yeah, will get it done"

I didn't believe Gray could get recalled. When he lost, I was devastated. I will never believe in polls again in this State.

It's the actual TURNOUT.




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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #43)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:50 PM

47. Davis was an entirety different situation. Enron and the republicans created an artificial energy

shortage with blackouts

The Davis ballot was a mess. There were hundreds of secondary candidates, and too many Democrats were fooled to vote for Arnold, because he wasnít far right and a celebrity

That isnít the case this time, and the leading republican and libertarian candidates are far right

I think there are a lot of nervous Democrats and progressives, and that will be a motivating factor

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #47)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:11 PM

53. There were also a lot more republicans

in California then than there are now.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #53)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:14 PM

54. I wasn't aware of that

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #54)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:20 PM

55. I don't know the exact numbers

but the republican party in California has been dying. There are no republicans holding statewide office and the Democrats hold supermajorities in both houses of the legislature. Even with a republican governor, they could pass legislation and over-ride any veto.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #55)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:43 PM

56. I know about our super majorities, and what you said makes sense. Thanks

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #31)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:11 PM

37. And it's that thinking that gave us Arnold.

This is deja viu..

Hey Arnold, someone is calling your name again.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #31)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:27 AM

59. OK, they think she might die and be replaced by a Republican appointee.

Now I get it. But it's highly unlikely that she will die in the near term. The average 88 year old white woman lives another seven years.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #59)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:39 AM

60. I agree Totodein. Anything can happen to anyone, young or old. The odds are with us

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:12 PM

38. My thought on that depends on how easy it is to change law on replacement.

Thereís a veto proof supermajority so if they can change law if need be, that alleviates my own concern.

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:22 PM

41. I'm not from California.

She and Grassley are in their last terms. People age and die.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #41)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:37 PM

44. What about Sanders, Leahy, and others? Will the not run next term?

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #44)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:11 PM

52. I would hope that every one of them that are 80+ won't.

But, if they fell competent enough to hold on, I would hope that they retire when they aren't.

If Biden's acuity starts to be compromised, I would hope he'd do the same.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #52)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:45 PM

57. I applaud your consistency

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:44 PM

46. This is also a good reminder for you to vote against the recall!

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Response to Initech (Reply #46)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:57 PM

50. +++

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Response to Peppertoo (Original post)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:14 AM

70. If Democratx allow a GOP to take the governor's job than they are idiots and deserve what they

Get. They outnumber GOP types 2 to 1.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #70)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:01 PM

71. As a Californian Democrat I would say if California Democrats allow the recall to pass because

they don't vote, or worse vote for the recall, they are worse than idiots, they would be self-destructive abusers, who would be inflicting a lot of pain on a lot of people

If that happens, which I don't think it will, I hope our super majority in the legislature would be able to prevent any draconian actions









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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #71)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:34 PM

72. I don't think it will either.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #72)

Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:01 PM

73. +++

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