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Why do people who choose not to get vaccinated go to the hospital when they get sick? (Original Post) kpete Aug 2021 OP
With Jenny McCarthy and RFK Jr. as head doctors obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #1
Excellent point Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #2
Because that's when the reality of COVID sets in. Earth-shine Aug 2021 #3
How many of them go to the hospital and deny they have COVID? Probatim Aug 2021 #21
There are certainly cases of very ill people arguing with the doctors that it's not COVID. Earth-shine Aug 2021 #23
I'm with you on global warming - we're past fucking around and have moved into finding out. Probatim Aug 2021 #26
Until they are feeling better... lame54 Aug 2021 #28
Because the "People who don't want to pay for others" wants to saddle others with their $1M care. TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #4
You opened the next discussion: "Explain the $75 aspirin, Doctor." marble falls Aug 2021 #9
And hospitals use needles dalton99a Aug 2021 #5
They are just crazy stupid. FM123 Aug 2021 #6
It's like they suddenly unlearned everything they were taught in medical training GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #22
Denial is not a river in Egypt... Ford_Prefect Aug 2021 #7
And they all forgot.... SergeStorms Aug 2021 #32
And the deathbed conversion to vaccine. I had to go to the ER last night, I "had a spell" ... marble falls Aug 2021 #8
Honestly, I really believe if a person shows up at a hospital TxGuitar Aug 2021 #27
I'm resisting going that far, but I am rapidly losing my famous patience with nitwits. marble falls Aug 2021 #31
Because they are scared luv2fly Aug 2021 #10
I repeat my theory... Thunderbeast Aug 2021 #11
I really think you're onto something there Walleye Aug 2021 #13
I got two Moderna shots and didn't even feel the thing when it happened. nt Earth-shine Aug 2021 #24
Me too. If you don't look you don't feel a thing Walleye Aug 2021 #30
Same here. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #40
It would be interesting to correlate vaccine refusal with... 3catwoman3 Aug 2021 #29
The dumbest ones are self medicating at home IronLionZion Aug 2021 #12
They go because they feel guilt at their negligence and shame at their stupidity bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #14
They simply refuse to link their careless behavior with their illness. Chainfire Aug 2021 #15
It's the result of millennia of con people taking advantage of religious faith. Tommymac Aug 2021 #16
don't forget 35 years of hate radio 24/7; pure propoganda. Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #17
You are right, Donald Trump did not invent the big lie, but he worked to perfect it. Chainfire Aug 2021 #20
Yes--they were properly primed pandr32 Aug 2021 #33
BINGO. We have a winner! calimary Aug 2021 #36
Yeah. T&A candy for the old white racists, making them feel "informed" and hip Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #39
And totally reinforced in the cockeyed worldview of these (mainly) middle-aged and old white men. calimary Aug 2021 #41
Still incurably sexist, just can't do much about it. Another thing to be angry about. And needing a Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #43
Fear nt XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #18
Why do they allow doctors to treat them who are wearing masks? Doodley Aug 2021 #19
Stupid tweet Meowmee Aug 2021 #25
They go to the hospital to get a second opinion -- they do not have covid-19 NCjack Aug 2021 #34
Because horse anti-parasite paste doesn't really work? LisaL Aug 2021 #35
Man. I just bought three cases.... Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #44
Just heard one moron on the news say it was all made up by Fauci Walleye Aug 2021 #37
"It's just the flu, you damn lib quacks!" Marcuse Aug 2021 #38
Because they're sick and it's the right thing to do. Iggo Aug 2021 #42
Same reason that Americans who eat the typical American diet go to the hospital with a heart attack. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #45
Send them to the Megachurches. Let them treat them with casseroles. kairos12 Aug 2021 #46
Same with cars, phones, TV, internet. All science. lindysalsagal Aug 2021 #47
Oh hell, that was a question I asked my trump cult sister msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #48

Haggard Celine

(17,807 posts)
2. Excellent point
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:13 AM
Aug 2021

If they think so highly of those religious nuts out there, let them go to a faith-healing service.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
3. Because that's when the reality of COVID sets in.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:21 AM
Aug 2021

When sh*t gets real, that's when they start trusting doctors.

Some of them deny COVID is real.

Some of them know it's real and are scared of it, but can't admit it because of tribalism.

Some of them get vaxxed in secret.

Some of them hate the libs so much that they will risk the lives of their families, and not allow them to be vaxxed.

Probatim

(3,279 posts)
21. How many of them go to the hospital and deny they have COVID?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:39 AM
Aug 2021

My guess is it's a decent percentage. It's only when they're shitting their gowns from coughing so hard or as the doctor intubates them that the light goes on.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
23. There are certainly cases of very ill people arguing with the doctors that it's not COVID.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:47 AM
Aug 2021

There are videos of dying people insisting to the doctor it must be something else.

Frankly, when I was growing up, I never thought of global pandemic as the cause of the end of the world.

But, those wildfires, that feels familiar.

If it has to end, my money was on global warming, but I was kinda, secretly hoping for alien invasion.

Probatim

(3,279 posts)
26. I'm with you on global warming - we're past fucking around and have moved into finding out.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:50 AM
Aug 2021

When the skies in the East were filled with smoke from West Coast fires it was proof that we're all going to get it from Mother Nature.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
4. Because the "People who don't want to pay for others" wants to saddle others with their $1M care.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:22 AM
Aug 2021

FM123

(10,371 posts)
6. They are just crazy stupid.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:33 AM
Aug 2021

The only thing that is even worse are all the healthcare workers who should know better that won't get vaccinated, I think that of last week there are still one in four un-vaxxed....

GoodRaisin

(10,884 posts)
22. It's like they suddenly unlearned everything they were taught in medical training
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:39 AM
Aug 2021

when they joined the red cult.

SergeStorms

(20,533 posts)
32. And they all forgot....
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:01 PM
Aug 2021

their towels. Either that, or didn't believe they'd ever need their towels.

Vogons put microchips in those towels you know.

marble falls

(71,862 posts)
8. And the deathbed conversion to vaccine. I had to go to the ER last night, I "had a spell" ...
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:40 AM
Aug 2021

The Baylor-Scott and White hospital had all their Covid beds filled. The parking lot was full, and I was feeling much better, but the wife says, "we're going in."

I explained my problem with the admittance person and was told to sit down, and they sent my wife out.

There weren't more than a handful of people in the waiting room. After and hour and a half of nobody being called back, I went to the desk and got told it was an 8-9 hr wait just to be triaged. I called the wife and I went home.

Today I feel right as rain, but I am pissed off with Gov Abbott, Sens Cornyn and Cruz, Rep Williams and whatever Gopper replaced my state Rep, Troy about four elections ago. I'm pissed off that I might have gotten sick being too close to someone that had lied to me about whether he'd been vaxxed or not. I'm pissed off about everyone who doesn't believe in science until they show up at an ER unvaxxed. Making me to have to show up in an ER with them.

I'm fed up. A year and a half of being careful, pffft in a couple of days.

TxGuitar

(4,339 posts)
27. Honestly, I really believe if a person shows up at a hospital
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:52 AM
Aug 2021

with COVID symptoms, the first question they should be asked is "are you vaccinated?". If the answer is no, they should be sent home with then number of a nearby mortuary to call when they die.

luv2fly

(2,660 posts)
10. Because they are scared
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:45 AM
Aug 2021

And going to the grocery store or Home Depot really won't help.

Thunderbeast

(3,813 posts)
11. I repeat my theory...
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:46 AM
Aug 2021

IT IS THE DAMN NEEDLE!

Many of these folks rationalize why they refuse the jab. They are terrified of rolling up their sleeve and feeling the pinch.

If the vaccine were given as a pill, half of the resisters would get it in a heartbeat.

Walleye

(44,719 posts)
13. I really think you're onto something there
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:56 AM
Aug 2021

They shouldn’t show so many pictures of needles going into arms on TV news etc. It makes me cringe, and I’m not afraid of them. I’ve gotten many shots that don’t hurt at all.

3catwoman3

(29,345 posts)
29. It would be interesting to correlate vaccine refusal with...
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:52 AM
Aug 2021

…whether or not someone has tattoos.

If you’ve got tats or piercings, don’t whine about needles.

When kids at the pediatric office would freak out about immunizations of finger sticks, I would try to use a little gentle humor and say, “Well, I guess your folks don’t have to worry about you getting tattoos.” Many would say, “No way!”

IronLionZion

(51,205 posts)
12. The dumbest ones are self medicating at home
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:49 AM
Aug 2021

with snake oil type stuff they bought without a prescription from sketchy online sellers.

The worst cases are when children are being given poison from dumbass parents. A few too many have died from this already.

bucolic_frolic

(55,039 posts)
14. They go because they feel guilt at their negligence and shame at their stupidity
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:57 AM
Aug 2021

It's more than a bit like going to church for them.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
15. They simply refuse to link their careless behavior with their illness.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:03 AM
Aug 2021

Some of them don't even make the connection just prior to being intubated. It is the result of decades of propaganda damning science.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
16. It's the result of millennia of con people taking advantage of religious faith.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:20 AM
Aug 2021

Fake preachers and priests and shamans. All in for the greed and taking advantage of the ignorant.

That's all.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
20. You are right, Donald Trump did not invent the big lie, but he worked to perfect it.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:30 AM
Aug 2021

The right wing "press" laid the groundwork of gullibility for the loser in chief.

calimary

(89,935 posts)
36. BINGO. We have a winner!
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:26 PM
Aug 2021

Used to be it was “your weird uncle mumbling in the attic.” Now it’s glitzy TV shows with dramatic music and bell-ringing sounds and fancy blonde women with lots of glamour-girl make-up, and well-coiffed men in expensive suits and an announcer repeating the “FAIR and BALANCED!!!” messaging.

calimary

(89,935 posts)
41. And totally reinforced in the cockeyed worldview of these (mainly) middle-aged and old white men.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:54 PM
Aug 2021

Hmmm... the word "cockeyed" takes on a whole new meaning here...

Evolve Dammit

(21,766 posts)
43. Still incurably sexist, just can't do much about it. Another thing to be angry about. And needing a
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:41 PM
Aug 2021

new "hip"!

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
25. Stupid tweet
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:49 AM
Aug 2021

Wait until you are very ill and have trouble breathing etc. most will head to a hospital at some point. Often it is too late by the time an ambulance is called etc.

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
34. They go to the hospital to get a second opinion -- they do not have covid-19
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:26 PM
Aug 2021

and even if they did, they could beat it just by listening to RW talk radio and their RWNJ pastors.

Walleye

(44,719 posts)
37. Just heard one moron on the news say it was all made up by Fauci
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:37 PM
Aug 2021

He said we can rely on our “natural immunity”. Did these people not get immunizations as children? I don’t understand it.

Iggo

(49,912 posts)
42. Because they're sick and it's the right thing to do.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:58 PM
Aug 2021

DU is changing, man.

Kinda gross.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
45. Same reason that Americans who eat the typical American diet go to the hospital with a heart attack.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:58 PM
Aug 2021

There are different mechanisms at play. We tend to think that we will buck the odds. That the science is flexible (and it can be). We tend to hope (to the point of magical thinking). Then when we get sick or injured, we seek help.

It isn't that doctors are lying. Anti-vaxxers think that the government or some nebulous authority is lying. That BIG PHARMA is lying. Remember that people in the liberal camp have also had our problems with pharmaceutical companies pushing products.

Memes are fun for a laugh, but they tend to boil complex situations down to simplistic, often incomplete terms.

lindysalsagal

(22,903 posts)
47. Same with cars, phones, TV, internet. All science.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 04:42 PM
Aug 2021

You don't like vaccines? Go join the Amish on the farm and leave all that evil science behind

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
48. Oh hell, that was a question I asked my trump cult sister
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 04:48 PM
Aug 2021

back in 2016... in reference to the ACA (Obama Care)


Death camps and the rest, rather go to emergency to get treated for anything that comes up than sign up for health care, and be covered.

I pulled my hair out of my head (almost) when we were having this chat. That gesture hurt her feelings, but I just couldn't help myself.

I really have NO TOLERANCE for the STUPID.

Nor do I want to. Not ever.

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