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flyguyjake

(492 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:12 AM Oct 2012

Romney announces 359 member military advisory council - WTF???

Last edited Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:29 PM - Edit history (1)

19 Days until election day Mitt Romney decides now is the time to form a military advisory council. Prior to Libya we've heard nothing from Mitt Romney regarding any military positions or policies. Mitt Romney and his campaign have until today, done everything possible to separate themselves from Bush & Cheney and the war in Afghanistan. If Mitt Romney was serious about forming a military council, wouldn't it be just a handful of experienced people?

So today the Romney campaign has released this news regarding his military advisory council comprised of 359 retired military members. General Tommy Franks, USA (Ret. 2003) is reportedly leading the council.

In the press release Romney says "Together we will restore our military might"

Military might? After thirteen consecutive years of growth, between 1998 and 2011, spending on the military has reached an all-time high.

The "super-committee's" $1.2 trillion cut Romney accuses Obama for was supported by Paul Ryan who was one of the many Republicans who voted for the agreement. And in fact, he was one of its biggest cheerleaders!

General Tommy Franks says "The fact of the matter is that we cannot afford another four years of feckless foreign policy."

Feckless really? So our current military is lacking in efficiency, vitality and is irresponsible? I wonder how our military men and women would feel if they heard this? As you may recall, General Tommy Franks was widely criticized and responsible for the failures in the Iraq war and this is the man Romney chooses to head his new military council? I'm speechless.

So all of the sudden Romney is this huge military man? Isn't he just a little late to that party?
Why 359 members, seriously 359, is he forming an entire new military branch?
What role will these 359 members have in this "Advisory council"?
Where the hell are they going to hold these meetings, a football stadium?

http://www.mittromney.com/news/press/2012/10/romney-president-announces-military-advisory-council

Members of the Military Advisory Council

Here is the list of the 359 Members!!! All old white men? Where's the "Binders full of women"? Didn't he just say women are important in his appointments?

* Removed the 359 old white men's names to shorten the length of the post*

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Romney announces 359 member military advisory council - WTF??? (Original Post) flyguyjake Oct 2012 OP
Democrats could gather a similar list. This is an act of desperation. gordianot Oct 2012 #1
desperation is the word that came to me about this JI7 Oct 2012 #2
Odd list, can't be endorsees. Shelton just endorsed a progressive Dem for NC governor blm Oct 2012 #19
Yes, and "flopping around on the floor of the boat", and "grabbing at straws", bemildred Oct 2012 #21
And yet not ONE Romney man has ever served in the US Armed Forces Berlum Oct 2012 #3
And the fact that most retired Ilsa Oct 2012 #4
I wonder if some of these guys know they are on his list...and AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #5
Ha! Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #16
Yeah exactly. Ganja Ninja Oct 2012 #26
That would be par for the course for the Romney campaign. Chiyo-chichi Oct 2012 #47
dumbest idea yet.. could we get rsweets Oct 2012 #6
Oops, looks like RobMe accidentally picked up his binder of old retired guys. n/t Hugin Oct 2012 #7
Do we need the full list here? It takes ages to scroll past all those senile warmongers on my BB Turborama Oct 2012 #8
Surrounding himself with 'yes'men. nt JohnnyBoots Oct 2012 #9
Assuming any of them actually did say 'yes' and weren't just snoring... JHB Oct 2012 #49
"blink once for Yes, twice for Yes" elehhhhna Oct 2012 #50
Only 5 women in this binder. nt rad51 Oct 2012 #10
Phew! I feel better! fugop Oct 2012 #32
In a campaign full of really stupid shit, this may be near the top. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #11
Democrats should exploit the shit out of this. ProSense Oct 2012 #18
I thought we already had a military advisory council - It's called Congress. baldguy Oct 2012 #12
Two problems here, Mitt sarge43 Oct 2012 #13
Why so few Army and Marine retirees? A-Long-Little-Doggie Oct 2012 #14
Cover for the fact that the old PNAC will pull mitt's strings Hubert Flottz Oct 2012 #15
Just a way to divert the inevitable question from Obama reflection Oct 2012 #17
Sounds like he's forming his own quasi-confederate army. ananda Oct 2012 #20
They really are going to secede BainsBane Oct 2012 #23
He's finally gone over the bend BainsBane Oct 2012 #22
That was my first thought! fugop Oct 2012 #28
They are kept in camouflage patterned binders BainsBane Oct 2012 #40
That's not an advisory council -- that's a small battalion. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2012 #24
maybe this is Romney's equivalent of the Republican Guard quinnox Oct 2012 #25
Considering how sick the general public is of these endless wars..... Marrah_G Oct 2012 #27
Clearly he forgot his binders for this council fugop Oct 2012 #29
"I got a binder full of 'em." -- Romney. Iggo Oct 2012 #31
Hey, that's a mighty long list of generals ya got there bud. Iggo Oct 2012 #30
Is this so he can claim them as a small business? justiceischeap Oct 2012 #33
No enlisted members IggleDoer Oct 2012 #34
"Enlisted are sly, cunning and bear considerable watching." n/t sarge43 Oct 2012 #39
This is just a list of retired flag rank Republicans who may have endorsed him. bluedigger Oct 2012 #35
359 members? All retired and all men? That's an old boys club, not an advisory council. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #36
the oligarchy threatens to become a military dictatorship? Generic Other Oct 2012 #37
FASCISM. Don't cry for me, One-Per-Centers! The truth is, I'll never leave you! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #38
Priceless Aerows Oct 2012 #42
To continue it on.. Aerows Oct 2012 #43
another committee promoting the 'smaller government' idea? N/t Sheepshank Oct 2012 #41
359!!?? Is he planning for World War III? reformist2 Oct 2012 #44
LOL--what are all these retired old brass going to advise him on? TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #45
desperate clusterfuck of a move nt TeamPooka Oct 2012 #46
Smaller government??? SoapBox Oct 2012 #48
I tried googling them to make sure there was no dead men on the list! flyguyjake Oct 2012 #51
So, is this an indicator that he would replace the joint chiefs of staff? mfcorey1 Oct 2012 #52

blm

(114,658 posts)
19. Odd list, can't be endorsees. Shelton just endorsed a progressive Dem for NC governor
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:24 AM
Oct 2012

and that is how he leans. I highly doubt he would endorse Mitt Romney.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
21. Yes, and "flopping around on the floor of the boat", and "grabbing at straws",
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:28 AM
Oct 2012

and no clue at all.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
3. And yet not ONE Romney man has ever served in the US Armed Forces
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:40 AM
Oct 2012

I got doodley squat when it comes to respect for the vast men's club of Republican Chickenhawks and their bleatings for war profits.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
4. And the fact that most retired
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:52 AM
Oct 2012

Senior retired military officers vote republican is supposed to be a surprise? This isn't a council. It's a list of endorsements. A council this large couldn't decide on when to have Christmas.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
5. I wonder if some of these guys know they are on his list...and
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:57 AM
Oct 2012

were NEVER ASKED to be on it?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,958 posts)
16. Ha!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:54 AM
Oct 2012

Good question! I can't imagine they were all actually asked to be part of this. That would be just another humiliation for Mitt if/when some of these people suddenly find themselves on this and disavow it. BTW what was it that Mitt was saying about being against "trickle-down" government- and he wants a 359 MEMBER COUNCIL?

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
26. Yeah exactly.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:57 AM
Oct 2012

And when you have 359 people as advisers how much input can any one of them have? This sounds like more of a PR stunt. I'd bet money some of the people on that list are so old they are not aware of what day of the week it is let alone acting as advisers to Mitt.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,976 posts)
47. That would be par for the course for the Romney campaign.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:39 PM
Oct 2012

He has done this so he will have something to say during the foreign policy debate. The President will likely be able to counter with "and 150 of them have disavowed their membership on your council!"

rsweets

(310 posts)
6. dumbest idea yet.. could we get
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:58 AM
Oct 2012

a group photo this week please, before
half of them pass away... what a cluster f***

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
8. Do we need the full list here? It takes ages to scroll past all those senile warmongers on my BB
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:44 AM
Oct 2012

Anyway, this is Rmoney throwing all his chips on the table and betting most Americans want to go to war.

I have a very strong suspicion he's going to lose that bet.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
49. Assuming any of them actually did say 'yes' and weren't just snoring...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:44 PM
Oct 2012

"All in favor say 'Aye'"

***zzzzzsnnnkkkkkkzzzz**** (x300)

"The 'Ayes' have it!"

fugop

(1,828 posts)
32. Phew! I feel better!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:19 AM
Oct 2012

I was having trouble finding any. Glad he found a decent percentage of women for his council.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
11. In a campaign full of really stupid shit, this may be near the top.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:01 AM
Oct 2012

359-member advisory council? Boy. I'll bet those early-morning meetings are a bitch.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. Democrats should exploit the shit out of this.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:19 AM
Oct 2012

Mittwit is a complete idiot. His ideas of what makes a good impression are simply weird, like "binders."

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
12. I thought we already had a military advisory council - It's called Congress.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:04 AM
Oct 2012

Can we say the "F" word yet?

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
13. Two problems here, Mitt
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:07 AM
Oct 2012

1. Anyone who has been retired for more than 20 years doesn't know stuff from peanut butter how the service functions anymore. Oh yeah, some things never change, but much does, command structure, equipment, tactics, mission objectives, etc. As usual, that bunch will be briefing you on the last war.

2. Not only is that bunch out of date, when they were AD they probably had no idea how the majority of service personnel lived, worked, thought about stuff. But then you don't give a rat's ass about the 47%, so why start now? Someday someone will smarten up and put a few chiefs on these advisory boards, then someone will get the straight skinny.

Unless he's a boy named Sue, there is one woman in that crowd, RAdm Veronica Froman. Her page must fallen out of the binder.

A-Long-Little-Doggie

(1,011 posts)
14. Why so few Army and Marine retirees?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:27 AM
Oct 2012

Soldiers and Marines have been the ones who have fought our last 2 wars, and continue to fight in Afghanistan. And they will be the ones who will be much more involved in any future conflicts, especially Special Forces and Seals. Are the Air Force and Navy retirees concerned about this strategy because their multimillion ships and planes won't play as big a part and they see themselves losing their lucrative consulting contracts?

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
15. Cover for the fact that the old PNAC will pull mitt's strings
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:40 AM
Oct 2012

and he'll war dance to their music.

reflection

(6,287 posts)
17. Just a way to divert the inevitable question from Obama
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:16 AM
Oct 2012

as to why 17 of 24 of Romney's foreign policy advisors are Bushies. Nothing more. I hope this transparent bait-and-switch does not work.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
22. He's finally gone over the bend
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:28 AM
Oct 2012

359 isn't an advisory council. It is a regiment. No one can possibly listen to than many people, and he has no intention of doing so.
No wonder Ann worries about his mental stability.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
28. That was my first thought!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:01 AM
Oct 2012

How the hell can you understand anything when you have this size of an advisory group?

On the other hand, it's his only play to overcome his foreign policy shortcomings before the foreign policy debate. As in, "I don't know shit but I've got hundreds of guys to fill me in."

Out of curiousity, sine I'm lazy, many military women on that council? Or are they all home cooking dinner?

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
24. That's not an advisory council -- that's a small battalion.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:43 AM
Oct 2012

They're all going to be reactivated and assigned to "Romney's Rangers" -- our elite force which will be parachute-dropped into world trouble spots, under direct (and secret) control of Secretary of State John Bolton.

After all, Romney's convinced that if a person is in an upper-level management position, they MUST be smarter, tougher, and a bigger badass than anyone else, right?

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
25. maybe this is Romney's equivalent of the Republican Guard
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:55 AM
Oct 2012

With the idea that at least these guys have lived a long life if they have to take a bullet for him.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
27. Considering how sick the general public is of these endless wars.....
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:57 AM
Oct 2012

.... this should go over well.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
29. Clearly he forgot his binders for this council
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:07 AM
Oct 2012

I wish we had some women in the military so this insanely large group had some in it.

Oh wait. We DO have women in the military? Gosh, where are they on this list? All back on base cooking up grub for the men, I guess.

Jeebus, can ANYONE find a woman on this list?

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
30. Hey, that's a mighty long list of generals ya got there bud.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:15 AM
Oct 2012

Yer givin' me a war boner!

bluedigger

(17,437 posts)
35. This is just a list of retired flag rank Republicans who may have endorsed him.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:25 AM
Oct 2012

Military 1%ers. I'm unimpressed.

yellowcanine

(36,792 posts)
36. 359 members? All retired and all men? That's an old boys club, not an advisory council.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:28 AM
Oct 2012

seriously.

Generic Other

(29,080 posts)
37. the oligarchy threatens to become a military dictatorship?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:32 AM
Oct 2012

I do not like the idea of retired brass pulling the president's strings.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
38. FASCISM. Don't cry for me, One-Per-Centers! The truth is, I'll never leave you!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:40 AM
Oct 2012

All through my Bain days,
My bad debating,
I kept my promise:
I'll do your bidding.


 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
43. To continue it on..
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:06 PM
Oct 2012

And as for fortune, and as for fame
I've always invited them in
And it's clear to the world they are all I desire.
I'm an illusion,
I'm not the solution I promise to be
The answer is clear ahead of time
I love me and only love me....

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
45. LOL--what are all these retired old brass going to advise him on?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:24 PM
Oct 2012

Early bird specials at the O Club? Golf tips? Laughable.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
48. Smaller government???
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

Ya...right.

And show me the political affiliation of each of those.

 

flyguyjake

(492 posts)
51. I tried googling them to make sure there was no dead men on the list!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:30 PM
Oct 2012

But the freaking list is too damn long! 359!

Romney is looney!

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