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It just passed the Senate 69-30. (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 OP
30 Republican Senators OPPOSED to progress... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2021 #1
Probably the ones who are up in the next cycle. TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #33
Exactly. Hortensis Aug 2021 #42
Good news! Now let's get voting rights done. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #2
I see that neither of my shit for brains Senators voted for the bill. Arkansas Granny Aug 2021 #3
But I thought Sinema and Manchin were going to pull the football AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #6
That's the next one! Tadpole Raisin Aug 2021 #13
Ah, moving the goalposts - gotcha! AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #15
Why the anger? I haven't posted on that. Tadpole Raisin Aug 2021 #24
After I pointed out that Sinema and Manchin were instrumental in passing this AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #26
That was not my intention AZSkiffy Tadpole Raisin Aug 2021 #30
Didn't Bill Cassidy go on FOX to defend This bill? tblue37 Aug 2021 #14
I saw him on CNN or MSNBC defending it. I don't recall him doing so on FOX but MLAA Aug 2021 #16
I read the post with the list too fast. I thought it was calling out Republicans who voted tblue37 Aug 2021 #18
That is happening to me more and more often! Haha. MLAA Aug 2021 #20
I see Susan Collins attached her lips to trumps behind. Ray Bruns Aug 2021 #17
No. This is a list of Republican Senators leftieNanner Aug 2021 #22
GOP Sen. McConnell and Grassley voted yes, while presidential hopefuls oasis Aug 2021 #4
Tim Scott is completely delusional if he thinks the QMAGAts will vote for a black man for POTUS. Celerity Aug 2021 #9
A billionaire just gave Scott 10 million for starters. It was on cable oasis Aug 2021 #11
well, that was bad investment, other than for window dressing that will be used for false claims Celerity Aug 2021 #12
I never believed Ben Carson or Herman Cain to be serious oasis Aug 2021 #50
Cotton is the one who scares me. BradAllison Aug 2021 #32
Yes, pre Trump he was my number one dark horse fear, but now I am not sure Celerity Aug 2021 #40
This is a BFD. Not finished yet (House) but this is a major win for Biden underpants Aug 2021 #5
It is wryter2000 Aug 2021 #8
underpants Aug 2021 #10
And is the orange moron..... SergeStorms Aug 2021 #46
Holy moly! I was figuring Repubs would all vote in lockstep against it. Now on to the House... kysrsoze Aug 2021 #7
Double your holy moly. Guess they're thinking about campaign ads, although . . . Vinca Aug 2021 #19
Their voters want it, elections coming up. The OTHER infrastructure Hortensis Aug 2021 #44
19 Republicans accepted socialism IronLionZion Aug 2021 #21
Now, Bring On The Reconciliation Bill! GB_RN Aug 2021 #23
Thank you to the 69 Senators who care about our country's future FakeNoose Aug 2021 #25
I thought Lindsey Graham was in COVID quarantine WestMichRad Aug 2021 #27
That's becaue it went to reconciliation Warpy Aug 2021 #28
This $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill was not passed via reconciliation. nt Celerity Aug 2021 #41
Oh, crap. TNNurse Aug 2021 #29
Texas too! kytngirl Aug 2021 #38
And we have GOP governors doing massive damage as well. TNNurse Aug 2021 #39
Holy cow...Burr AND Tillis (NC) voted for it? Am I reading that right? n/t ms liberty Aug 2021 #31
Yes Deminpenn Aug 2021 #35
Lindsey Graham voted for it? stage left Aug 2021 #34
He got to hang out on a houseboat though!!!! BradAllison Aug 2021 #43
So, a good time to buy gold and silver before the inflation hits? Shanti Shanti Shanti Aug 2021 #36
An unusual day, not seen since...hmm...a long time ago. keopeli Aug 2021 #37
If you hate being so cynical, why not look at just a few of the hundreds Hortensis Aug 2021 #47
I appreciate your point. To clarify, this vote is a step, not a win. That's why I'm cynical. keopeli Aug 2021 #48
:) And me neither of course. We've all seen this movie before, but Hortensis Aug 2021 #49
I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tells ya... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #45

Arkansas Granny

(31,522 posts)
3. I see that neither of my shit for brains Senators voted for the bill.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:58 AM
Aug 2021

Even after having to close the I-40 bridge over the Mississippi River because of a crack in a girder, they don't find infrastructure important.

I can't wait to see Boozman and Cotton voted out of office.

Here are the 17 Republican senators who voted to advance the bipartisan infrastructure plan:
Roy Blunt of Missouri
Richard Burr of North Carolina
Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia
Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
Susan Collins of Maine
Kevin Cramer of North Dakota
Mike Crapo of Idaho
Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
Chuck Grassley of Iowa
John Hoeven of North Dakota
Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
Rob Portman of Ohio
Jim Risch of Idaho
Mitt Romney of Utah
Thom Tillis of North Carolina
Todd Young of Indiana

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/republicans-voted-for-infrastructure-package-debate/index.html

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,040 posts)
15. Ah, moving the goalposts - gotcha!
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:34 PM
Aug 2021

Nice to see we're ready to blame them for things that haven't happened when they're partially responsible for getting this through.
Will you blame the Squad if they try to sink this bill?

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
24. Why the anger? I haven't posted on that.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:56 PM
Aug 2021

My understanding was they either modified ‘objectionable’ (whether to Rs or some Ds) items in this bill or took them out with plans to put them in the reconciliation bill. That appeared to be a strategy. I am not commenting on that one way or another. That’s the sausage making.

I am moving no goalposts….

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,040 posts)
26. After I pointed out that Sinema and Manchin were instrumental in passing this
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:01 PM
Aug 2021

You implied they were going to sink the next bill. That's moving the goalposts, or at least refusing to acknowledge that the two most hated Dems here accomplished something big.

If that wasn't the intention, then I apologize. I have a hairtrigger when it comes to DUers jumping to blame Democrats and Manchin and Sinema seem to bring out the worst in members who don't understand how the sausage gets made.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
30. That was not my intention AZSkiffy
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:12 PM
Aug 2021

I recognize the difficulties each Senator has in their State. I may point out things I find inconsistent or contradictory but I’m not generally someone who attacks people for a view until I understand it.

Sinema and Manchin had problems with this bill but they weren’t the only ones, just the more visible ones. They worked those out which is great and with a good number of Rs (TFG will be crazed).

The reconciliation bill apparently has more ‘objectionable’ items and is a lot larger. It won’t have the bipartisan support this one had and the negotiations will be difficult. Any one Democrat could stop it in its tracks.

We’ll just have to wait and hope…

Cheers!

MLAA

(17,302 posts)
16. I saw him on CNN or MSNBC defending it. I don't recall him doing so on FOX but
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:34 PM
Aug 2021

anything is possible since he sees handwriting on the wall and wants to emerge the trumpsewer as a ‘reasonable’ repug.

tblue37

(65,456 posts)
18. I read the post with the list too fast. I thought it was calling out Republicans who voted
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:37 PM
Aug 2021

against the bill.

My mistake.

leftieNanner

(15,135 posts)
22. No. This is a list of Republican Senators
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:50 PM
Aug 2021

Who voted FOR the bill.

That doesn't mean that she isn't an odious idiot, though.

oasis

(49,394 posts)
4. GOP Sen. McConnell and Grassley voted yes, while presidential hopefuls
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:00 PM
Aug 2021

Rubio, Ted Cruz , Tim Scott, and Tom Cotton voted no.

Celerity

(43,457 posts)
9. Tim Scott is completely delusional if he thinks the QMAGAts will vote for a black man for POTUS.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:07 PM
Aug 2021

oasis

(49,394 posts)
11. A billionaire just gave Scott 10 million for starters. It was on cable
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:22 PM
Aug 2021

news this weekend, MSNBC or CNN.

Celerity

(43,457 posts)
12. well, that was bad investment, other than for window dressing that will be used for false claims
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:25 PM
Aug 2021

that the Rethugs are not racist to their little white power core

oasis

(49,394 posts)
50. I never believed Ben Carson or Herman Cain to be serious
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:02 PM
Aug 2021

GOP presidential contenders, but they served the purpose that you described.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
32. Cotton is the one who scares me.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:18 PM
Aug 2021

Although to be honest, most Senators fall flat on their face in the spotlight. See: Rubio.

Celerity

(43,457 posts)
40. Yes, pre Trump he was my number one dark horse fear, but now I am not sure
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:02 PM
Aug 2021

if he is enough of a barking mad RW carnival barker showman type to get the QMAGAts entertained and blood-lusted up in the crazy way they have now been acclimated to with Trump. Maybe, maybe not.

underpants

(182,848 posts)
5. This is a BFD. Not finished yet (House) but this is a major win for Biden
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:01 PM
Aug 2021

In 7 months he’s already established quite a legacy.

wryter2000

(46,063 posts)
8. It is
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:07 PM
Aug 2021

And if he gets the other bill through, too, we the people should be feeling the effect when it's time to vote next year.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
46. And is the orange moron.....
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:26 PM
Aug 2021

going to kick and scream and primary all of these (R) Senators?

To be a fly on the wall of his gold leafed office today!

Vinca

(50,296 posts)
19. Double your holy moly. Guess they're thinking about campaign ads, although . . .
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:39 PM
Aug 2021

ex-Dear Leader ordered them all to vote against it. Trouble in paradise??

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. Their voters want it, elections coming up. The OTHER infrastructure
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:12 PM
Aug 2021

bill, the bigger one, is the one they demonize and throw to their slathering base.

GB_RN

(2,361 posts)
23. Now, Bring On The Reconciliation Bill!
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:55 PM
Aug 2021

And FIX the damned debt ceiling, permanently! Screw this annual/biannual game of chicken.

Warpy

(111,297 posts)
28. That's becaue it went to reconciliation
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:06 PM
Aug 2021

They'd have struggled to get up to 60 if it had not.

If only they could do that for our right to vote.

TNNurse

(6,928 posts)
29. Oh, crap.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:10 PM
Aug 2021

Is TN the only state where both GOP senators voted no???

I want to apologize for the idiots who live here.

kytngirl

(99 posts)
38. Texas too!
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:29 PM
Aug 2021

Tennessee is not alone. Cruz & Cronyn also voted no. It's all about politics with them. I don't know when people will open their eyes and see that Republicans, for the most part, do not care about the people who elected them to serve them and their needs. It's all about money and power. So sad.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
35. Yes
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:23 PM
Aug 2021

nt

Toomey voted No although you'd think his "Club for Growth" membership would mean he's for the economic growth this bill will provide.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
43. He got to hang out on a houseboat though!!!!
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:06 PM
Aug 2021

Oh myyyy, Lindsay just looooves being back in the inner circle!

keopeli

(3,524 posts)
37. An unusual day, not seen since...hmm...a long time ago.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:27 PM
Aug 2021

Apart from emergency, catastrophic funding (i.e. Covid, Great Recession during Bush, 9-11), the GQP has not been willing to compromise with Dems for decades. I'm not sure what this is, but I'm very suspicious.

Basically, we are handing Repukes a win that was unnecessary. We could have done it all in reconciliation. I understand that this was a campaign promise by Biden (to be bipartisan). I also understand that at least 2 Democratic Senators are Blue Dogs and we have a 50/50 Senate. But, back in 2009 when we had a 60/40 Senate, the Democrats were trying to do the exact same thing.

While I appreciate this anomaly and that it works to the benefit of our country, I can not help but be apprehensive about what deals have been made and what the future will be. I'll have to stew over this some more before I get a handle on my specific concerns.

But, I will say this: I am unable to get excited about this particular passage of a bill in the Senate. The House has yet to take it up and the Conference Committee has yet to be convened. In the end, this whole exercise could still be thwarted during the Joint Resolution, which will need all these Republicans to, once again, vote with the Democrats on this thing. I hate being so cynical, but there it is.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. If you hate being so cynical, why not look at just a few of the hundreds
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:37 PM
Aug 2021

of projects and how they'll change the lives of Americans across the nation? Revisit the real world this is all about and realize it's not all about handing Republicans a win. Get excited about what matters.

Like high speed broadband to all Americans. Do you care about uplifting and freeing people from structural exploitation and oppression? It's no coincidence at all that poorer areas are most likely to be without.
Internet connection will mean parents can get daily communications from teachers, they can work on line and attend classes at home, their children attend school remotely (from home!), the elderly and disabled will be able to shop, bank, pay bills, attend concerts, even visit their physicians from home. Incredible blessings for those who've never had them. And so much more.

Among the "more" is both increased flow of wealth from advantaged to disadvantaged areas and increase in property values.

Would you really choose to sacrifice all those people -- and the many tens of millions who'll benefit in many other ways, even cancel all our plans to build fighting climate change into new infrastructure -- to make sure Republicans couldn't claim some of the credit?

keopeli

(3,524 posts)
48. I appreciate your point. To clarify, this vote is a step, not a win. That's why I'm cynical.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:02 PM
Aug 2021

If, in a few weeks/months, the bill passes the house, the Conference Committee does a good job, the Senate votes again to pass it with 60+ votes, the house votes to pass it again, and the President signs it, I'll be over the moon about the many benefits and blessings that this legislation affords. My cynicism is simply that, in my lifetime worth of experience, I would not be surprised at all to find that the Republicans refuse to vote for the final Senate legislation and use this episode to say they are so bipartisan by the Democrats just aren't fair.

Does that clarify what I'm saying? I'm right with you, Hortensis. I've just seen this movie too many times in my life to jump to the conclusion that the ending will be different than it ever has been in the last 40 years.

Thanks for being an optimist and reminding me of the great work our Dems are trying to do.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. :) And me neither of course. We've all seen this movie before, but
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:47 PM
Aug 2021

I don't forget or despise how it typically ends. We almost always get less than we try for in the beginning, but that's baked into sharing of power when what's become a corrupt, extremist party. Wins are still wins, not failures.

Not one Republican voted for the ACA after pledging to help pass it, of course, and we lost the public option in addition to altering other provisions, but we still created a national healthcare system that even incomplete and battered serves millions well.

Btw, having been here before, I refuse to spend many months tied up in knots. It's too nerve-wracking and it always turns out I didn't know what was going on off screen anyway. I tune in at the end to find out what we've gained to proceed with.

Btw, wasn't it nice of us to give McConnell and company the larger, reconciliation bill to attack viciously so their rabid base won't punish them for cooperating with the evil Democrats? We're just good people.

2naSalit

(86,680 posts)
45. I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tells ya...
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:19 PM
Aug 2021

That both Idaho Senators voted for it. And I'm not surprised that the asshole R Senator from Montana did not vote for it.

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