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MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:44 PM Aug 2021

NY COVID Hospitalizations Up 229% in Month; Severe Breakthrough Rate Rising in NJ

Per NBC: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/nyc-renews-plea-on-kids-and-vaccines-as-state-hospitalizations-soar-227-in-month/3210282/

"Breakthrough infections are another point of concern. While their prevalence remains fractionally low, it was a CDC investigation of an outbreak among mostly fully vaccinated people that prompted the updated guidance late last month.

In New Jersey, fully vaccinated people accounted for 18.5% of all new COVID cases in the period July 20 through the 26, Gov. Phil Murphy said Monday. More importantly: Those cases accounted for 3% of all new hospitalizations.

Murphy pointed to the data Monday as evidence that vaccines work, but for many, the fact that even 3% of hospitalized COVID patients were already vaccinated is a worry -- and so is the direction in which the breakthrough cases are trending.

That 3% representation of immunized people hospitalized with the virus in the period July 20 through July 26 is up substantially from the .004% representation in the period up to July 26. The 0.14% representation of new COVID cases within that group leaping to 18.5% also may raise questions about vaccine efficacy vs. delta."

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NY COVID Hospitalizations Up 229% in Month; Severe Breakthrough Rate Rising in NJ (Original Post) MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 OP
The Blue States Will Come Soon Enough SoCalDavidS Aug 2021 #1
Which is why we need boosters approved ASAP. LisaL Aug 2021 #2
along with other variants down the line MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #4
So it's about matching the data I saw posted yesterday. roamer65 Aug 2021 #3
And Moderna is the best of the three against delta, so the other two are even lower. LisaL Aug 2021 #5
Definitely. roamer65 Aug 2021 #6
For reasons not fully understood the delta variant cases have Quakerfriend Aug 2021 #7
From the article: MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #8
It basically runs out of enough people to infect. JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #9
the percentage of hospitalizations that are vaxed would rise in highly-vaccinated states like NJ fishwax Aug 2021 #10

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. The Blue States Will Come Soon Enough
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:48 PM
Aug 2021

The Clusterfuck that are the Southern states, will eventually find it's way to the Blue states, with higher vaccination rates.

There are more than enough Fucking Morons in Blue states like NY & CA, to allow cases to spike there too.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. So it's about matching the data I saw posted yesterday.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:52 PM
Aug 2021

Moderna is about 76 pct effective against DeSantis.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
5. And Moderna is the best of the three against delta, so the other two are even lower.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:55 PM
Aug 2021

We need to boost up.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. Definitely.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:57 PM
Aug 2021

Also copious administration of Fenofibrate (Tricor) to suspected cases, if no drug interactions are feared.

MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
8. From the article:
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:53 PM
Aug 2021

"Brilliant said his models on the Covid outbreak in San Francisco and New York predict an “inverted V-shape epidemic curve.” That implies that infections increase very quickly, but would also decline rapidly, he explained.

If the prediction turns out be true, it means that the delta variant spreads so quickly that “it basically runs out of candidates” to infect, explained Brilliant.

There appears to be a similar pattern in the U.K. and India, where the spread of the delta variant has receded from recent highs."

But he also says

"The pandemic is not coming to an end soon — given that only a small proportion of the world population has been vaccinated against Covid-19, a well-known epidemiologist told CNBC."

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
9. It basically runs out of enough people to infect.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:59 PM
Aug 2021
If the prediction turns out be true, it means that the delta variant spreads so quickly that “it basically runs out of candidates” to infect, explained Brilliant.

There appears to be a similar pattern in the U.K. and India, where the spread of the delta variant has receded from recent highs.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
10. the percentage of hospitalizations that are vaxed would rise in highly-vaccinated states like NJ
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:09 PM
Aug 2021

because there is a smaller percentage of non-vaxxed to get sick. It should also mean, hopefully, that the drop-off we saw in Britain, for instance, comes more quickly as the delta variant hits a vaccine wall. Sure hope that's how it plays out, anyway.

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