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MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:50 PM Aug 2021

Vaccine-resistant lambda variant is in the US

"Researchers from Japan have found that the lambda variant contains three mutations on its spike proteins that make it more infectious than the original virus. Two other mutations on its spike proteins make it about 150% more resistant to antibodies produced by the vaccines. A spike protein is the part of a virus that enables it to attach to a human cell.

The research has not yet been peer-reviewed.

The World Health Organization has classified the lambda variant as a “variant of interest," meaning that it is suspected to be either more contagious than the original strain or more able to evade vaccines. When more evidence emerges that a variant does either of those things, it will be reclassified as a “variant of concern.”

The researchers from Japan are worried that classifying the lambda variant as a variant of interest will minimize the potential threat.

"Because the Lambda variant is a VOI, it might be considered that this variant is not an ongoing threat compared to the pandemic VOCs,” the researcher wrote. "However, because the Lambda variant is relatively resistant to the vaccine-induced [antibodies], it might be possible that this variant is feasible to cause breakthrough infection."

Yet, it does not seem likely that the lambda variant will spread as widely as the delta variant has.

Those 1,300 confirmed cases of the lambda variant in the U.S. amount to less than 0.2% of new cases. By contrast, the CDC says the delta variant now accounts for 93% of new cases. Thus far, the CDC has not classified the lambda variant as either a variant of interest or concern."

https://news.yahoo.com/vaccine-resistant-lambda-variant-us-193100413.html

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Vaccine-resistant lambda variant is in the US (Original Post) MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 OP
I bet Fenofibrate knocks it for a loop. roamer65 Aug 2021 #1
"...the Lambda variant is relatively resistant to the vaccine-induced [antibodies]" Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #2
Was just going to post about this... cilla4progress Aug 2021 #3
The argument that the lambda variant in the U.S. amount to less than 0.2% of new cases is ridiculous Xipe Totec Aug 2021 #4
Agreed pandr32 Aug 2021 #7
Contact Tracing? SoCalDavidS Aug 2021 #9
That we're not doing it now is not a reason to not do it. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2021 #11
I Never Said It Was A Reason SoCalDavidS Aug 2021 #12
Yea, we might as well just off ourselves and be done, right? Xipe Totec Aug 2021 #13
Like The Late, Great Kenny Rogers Said.... SoCalDavidS Aug 2021 #15
Why the RW reaction to CT? We ARE doing it, effectively, in some states getagrip_already Aug 2021 #21
I agree with this totally MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #16
Its even dumber than that Sgent Aug 2021 #17
It's typical of the unsupported reassurances we have been getting over the past few months. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #20
Oh lovely Calculating Aug 2021 #5
In other news ... lpbk2713 Aug 2021 #6
Tomorrow Will Be 10 Straight Days, Thursday Will Be 11, Friday Will Be 12 SoCalDavidS Aug 2021 #8
And some assholes want him to run for VP with Trump in 2024! Initech Aug 2021 #10
THIS IS NOT WORSE THAN DELTA based on serum studies of mRNA vaccines Pobeka Aug 2021 #14
Exactly. This was tested against the Chinese vax. Native Aug 2021 #19
No conclusions can be drawn at this time... MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #22
Yes. These scare stories are not helping. Peppertoo Aug 2021 #23
I think we all need to realize Pobeka Aug 2021 #24
The entire original post is misleading and irresponsible. triron Aug 2021 #25
They use the word 'might' a lot in the article. Just saying. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #18

Irish_Dem

(47,169 posts)
2. "...the Lambda variant is relatively resistant to the vaccine-induced [antibodies]"
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:57 PM
Aug 2021

"Two other mutations on its spike proteins make it about 150% more resistant to antibodies produced by the vaccines."

This is not good news.

cilla4progress

(24,746 posts)
3. Was just going to post about this...
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:58 PM
Aug 2021

between this and the IPCC climate report yesterday, easy to feel hopeless. I feel for our young folks.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
4. The argument that the lambda variant in the U.S. amount to less than 0.2% of new cases is ridiculous
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:58 PM
Aug 2021

Although the delta variant accounts for 93% of new cases currently, at one point the delta variant accounted for ZERO new cases, and here we are.

It is absolutely stupid to dismiss the risk now, when we can still eliminate it completely through contact tracing.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
9. Contact Tracing?
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:16 PM
Aug 2021

Are you fucking kidding me?

We haven't done shit with that since the beginning. Fat chance we'll start now.

Contact tracing is as much a thing in America as accountability for planning an insurrection or attacking the Capitol.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
12. I Never Said It Was A Reason
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:21 PM
Aug 2021

I meant to say there is ZERO chance of it happening.

We're a pathetic country, that can't do anything right. It was be foolish to think we're suddenly going to.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
15. Like The Late, Great Kenny Rogers Said....
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:33 PM
Aug 2021

You got to know when to hold 'em.

Know when to fold 'em.

I'm not going to off myself anytime soon, but I'm not going to expect this country to do the necessary things to put this pandemic at least partially in the rear view mirror.

Yes, there is little doubt that contact tracing is worthwhile, and we should be doing it.

Also Yes, there is Zero chance that's realistic in America. We can't even wear fucking masks or obey the most simple of Covid protocols.

getagrip_already

(14,775 posts)
21. Why the RW reaction to CT? We ARE doing it, effectively, in some states
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:54 PM
Aug 2021

MA has a very effective program which I'm pretty sure I've responded to you with details before.

other states do as well.

But as long as we have red states that won't even allow masks, we won't have a national system. And that is not this countries fault. It is republicans playing games.

So yes, Contact Tracing can help. Negative opinions rarely do anything.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
17. Its even dumber than that
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:24 PM
Aug 2021

reread the article -- only .2% are confirmed Lambda, but we don't send every positive Covid-19 test out for genotyping, we use sampling. Without knowing what the sampling numbers are, Lambda could be anywhere between 0.2% - 7%.

NH Ethylene

(30,813 posts)
20. It's typical of the unsupported reassurances we have been getting over the past few months.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:47 PM
Aug 2021

Public health officials are reluctant to dispel the notion that all will be wonderful if we only get the vaccine. I understand their motive but it just makes people more suspicious while holding back info from the rest of us.

For example, breakthrough infections were deemed to be very rare before any data came in from Provincetown and Israel to support their comments.

lpbk2713

(42,761 posts)
6. In other news ...
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:11 PM
Aug 2021


I just heard Florida had a record high number of reported Covid cases for the
ninth straight day. That mofo DeSantis is trying to kill us all and no one seems
to want to stand in his way.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
8. Tomorrow Will Be 10 Straight Days, Thursday Will Be 11, Friday Will Be 12
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:14 PM
Aug 2021

FL is probably Weeks away from a peak. Expect daily records pretty much every day until then.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
24. I think we all need to realize
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:51 PM
Aug 2021

There will be other variants of interest, and of concern.

They all will have a new name.

A new name does not imply it is worse than the previous named variant.

That's probably what freaks people out -- the new name, people think it must be worse because it got a name.

It's like naming hurricanes. The name does not imply the severity.

Let's help folks think about this the right way.

Thanks for replying!

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