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You do know that the people who live in Red States have more power than the people in Blue states? (Original Post) UCmeNdc Aug 2021 OP
The legacy of human slavery is still strong with us. byronius Aug 2021 #1
Yes. That's why any accomplishment we can make is a big fucking deal Walleye Aug 2021 #2
Agree 100% UCmeNdc Aug 2021 #3
Yes! zuul Aug 2021 #13
Thought about that as I MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #4
try living in California lapfog_1 Aug 2021 #5
Yep! Same sad situation............ MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #6
It's a freaking joke on blue states RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2021 #11
Yeah Nexus2 Aug 2021 #14
David Frum actually wrote an article addressing this. JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #7
Your electoral college at work world wide wally Aug 2021 #8
Asked my son, Corgigal Aug 2021 #9
The lower, lesser, taker states? pwb Aug 2021 #10
And yet Democrats are blamed. Thanks, Obama. Thanks, Biden. betsuni Aug 2021 #12

byronius

(7,401 posts)
1. The legacy of human slavery is still strong with us.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:17 AM
Aug 2021

Anti-democratic, to be sure. But it keeps the cruel and ignorant happy.

UCmeNdc

(9,601 posts)
3. Agree 100%
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:22 AM
Aug 2021

The stupidity coming out of the red states is sooooooo frustrating. What happened to America?

MyOwnPeace

(16,940 posts)
4. Thought about that as I
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:37 AM
Aug 2021

took a 4,000 mile road trip through mid-America. It really struck me when I drove through the states of North and South Dakota with a combined population of 1,700,000.
My home state of Pennsylvania has 12,800,000............

----and THOSE states have 4 Senate votes compared to Pennsylvania's 2. Fewer than 1/6 of the population has the power to vote down ANYTHING that would/could be beneficial to the larger number of people.

THAT IS NOT RIGHT!!!!!!!!


(I know - just like how TFG became our 'president' while receiving fewer votes than Hillary.... )

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,678 posts)
11. It's a freaking joke on blue states
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:32 AM
Aug 2021

and they do almost nothing about it.

It kills me that people in red states don't understand it at all. It's all about owning the libs, not about making legislation to benefit the many at the expense of the few with all the resources



FOX has been a killer in building up the propaganda, it keeps the idiots in red states from ever figuring out that Democrats and people in blue states are really trying to help everybody.

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
14. Yeah
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:42 PM
Aug 2021
(I know - just like how TFG became our 'president' while receiving fewer votes than Hillary....


Just like every Republican president since who? Reagan? Yet most typical (Not politicians) Republican I talk to is dead certain they are the norm, the 'real' Americans.

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
7. David Frum actually wrote an article addressing this.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:49 AM
Aug 2021

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The authors of the Constitution feared mass participation would unsettle government, but it’s the privileged minority that has proved destabilizing.

By David Frum

If there was one idea shared by just about every author of the Constitution, it was the one articulated by James Madison at the convention on June 26, 1787.

The mass of the people would be susceptible to “fickleness and passion,” he warned. They would suffer from “want of information as to their true interest.” Those who must “labour under all the hardships of life” would “secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessings.” Over time, as the population expanded and crowded into cities, the risk would only worsen that “the major interest might under sudden impulses be tempted to commit injustice on the minority.”

To protect property from the people—and ultimately, the people from themselves—the Framers would have to erect “a necessary fence” against “impetuous councils.” A Senate to counterbalance the House of Representatives, selected from a more elite few and serving for longer terms, would be one such fence. The indirect election of the president through an Electoral College would be another. A federal judiciary confirmed by the Senate and serving for life would provide one more. And so on through the constitutional design.

The system of government in the United States has evolved in many important ways since 1787. But the mistrust of unpropertied majorities—especially urban unpropertied majorities—persists. In no other comparably developed society is voting as difficult; in no peer society are votes weighted as unequally; in no peer society is there a legislative chamber where 41 percent of the lawmakers can routinely outvote 59 percent, as happens in the U.S. Senate.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/america-must-become-democracy/618028/

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
9. Asked my son,
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:23 AM
Aug 2021

who has a degree in history, does it ever work out well when the minority rules no majority? He said, nope. So I wait...

pwb

(11,292 posts)
10. The lower, lesser, taker states?
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:28 AM
Aug 2021

The butt of America. They want to stay down and I for one am tired of trying to raise them up with the rest of us. Fugum.

betsuni

(25,675 posts)
12. And yet Democrats are blamed. Thanks, Obama. Thanks, Biden.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:39 AM
Aug 2021

The Democratic Establishment is corrupt and the same as Republicans blah blah blah. Democrats could do anything if they just fight hard enough and "take on" blah blah blah.

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