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Celerity

(43,581 posts)
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:20 PM Aug 2021

Joe Manchin voices 'serious concerns' about $3.5tn budget after Senate approval



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/aug/11/senate-budget-bill-manchin-schumer-joe-biden-covid-coronavirus-latest-updates?page=with:block-6113c94b8f0892081f6d324d#block-6113c94b8f0892081f6d324d

Senate Democrats approved the blueprint for their $3.5tn budget bill early this morning, after a marathon session that included an hours-long “vote-a-rama” on the proposal. The 50-49 vote fell along party lines, as Senate Republicans continued to fiercely criticize the bill as a reckless spending spree. Because Democrats are advancing the bill using reconciliation, they do not need any Republican support to pass it.

“It’s been quite a night,” Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer said after the vote. “We still have a ways to go, but we’ve taken a giant step forward to transforming America. This is the most significant piece of legislation that’s been considered in decades.”

But there are still serious hurdles ahead for the bill. One of the most centrist members of the Senate Democratic caucus, Joe Manchin, said after the vote that he has “serious concerns about the grave consequences” of another large spending package.

“Given the current state of the economic recovery, it is simply irresponsible to continue spending at levels more suited to respond to a Great Depression or Great Recession – not an economy that is on the verge of overheating,” Manchin said. If Schumer cannot keep Manchin on board, the bill will not pass the evenly divided Senate, so the stakes could not be higher.






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Joe Manchin voices 'serious concerns' about $3.5tn budget after Senate approval (Original Post) Celerity Aug 2021 OP
Joe, why don't you and Susan put your concerns together and make baby concerns and fuck off. CurtEastPoint Aug 2021 #1
Good one, Curt! I approve. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2021 #3
Once again, I was inspired! LOL! They are both worthless. CurtEastPoint Aug 2021 #6
"Joe, why don't you and Susan put your concerns together and make baby concerns and fuck off." LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #8
Ain't this what they refer to as cilla4progress Aug 2021 #2
Not really FBaggins Aug 2021 #5
Majority Leader Schumer WHITT Aug 2021 #4
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #9
If it were only that easy. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2021 #10
Indeed WHITT Aug 2021 #13
Agree 100% SharonClark Aug 2021 #11
Not sure I understand your "threat", if Manchin tanks the bill, there are no funds to go anywhere. tritsofme Aug 2021 #14
But All The Downside WHITT Aug 2021 #15
Nice little bipartisan bill you negotiated there, Joe; be a shame if something happened to it. Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #7
Exactly WHITT Aug 2021 #12

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
8. "Joe, why don't you and Susan put your concerns together and make baby concerns and fuck off."
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:48 PM
Aug 2021

😂😂😂😂

FBaggins

(26,774 posts)
5. Not really
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:26 PM
Aug 2021

He could have just voted "no" and it would remain stalled and he would get all of the attention.

They convinced him to at least allow the process to continue.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
4. Majority Leader Schumer
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:24 PM
Aug 2021

should have "serious concerns" about sending any infrastructure funds to West Virginia.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
10. If it were only that easy.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:53 PM
Aug 2021

People don't take kindly to being extorted. Our problem is we need to pass shit and keep WV, which at present seems to be impossible. The sooner we pick up another senate seat or two, the sooner we can dismiss Manchin's vaguely irritating "concerns".

tritsofme

(17,405 posts)
14. Not sure I understand your "threat", if Manchin tanks the bill, there are no funds to go anywhere.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 03:38 PM
Aug 2021

Fiendish Thingy

(15,669 posts)
7. Nice little bipartisan bill you negotiated there, Joe; be a shame if something happened to it.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:47 PM
Aug 2021

The CPC has all the leverage on this one. Manchin and Sinema’s precious bipartisan bill is going nowhere unless they pass the reconciliation bill first. Sure, they might whittle it down to say, $3 trillion, but they can’t block it completely, because all fingers will be pointed at them, not the CPC.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
12. Exactly
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 03:27 PM
Aug 2021

The Squad+ alone can sink Manchin's bill, with zero downside from their constituents, actually they would approve.

If Machin & Sinema sink the reconciliation bill, their bill is also down the drain, with ALL the downside on them.

And Sanders sez the reconciliation bill is $3.5T. Period. When a reporter asked if that was negotiable, he said THAT'S the number.

It's starting to look like a good 'ole fashioned shotgun wedding to me.

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