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Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 05:20 PM Aug 2021

Advancing Taliban go door-to-door and forcibly take girls as young as TWELVE to be sex slave 'wives'






https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9883367/Taliban-going-door-door-forcibly-marrying-girls-young-TWELVE.html

Taliban has swept across Afghanistan, seizing vast swathes of territory along with nine provincial capitals

Terrified locals say jihadist fighters have been beheading people and forcing women to marry their fighters

Girls as young as 12 have been put on 'marriage lists' that village elders have been forced to compile

Taliban are now threatening the city of Maza-i-Sharif, the largest in Afghanistan's north, as President Ghani flew there on Wednesday to rally the troops and sacked his top general in hopes of reversing Islamist advance

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The "reformed" Taliban

Sick bastards

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Advancing Taliban go door-to-door and forcibly take girls as young as TWELVE to be sex slave 'wives' (Original Post) Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 OP
Daily Mai....nevermind n/t leftstreet Aug 2021 #1
+1...nt SidDithers Aug 2021 #22
+2 - nt Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #26
+3 obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #36
The fear in those girls' eyes... secondwind Aug 2021 #2
Yes, me too 😔 Quakerfriend Aug 2021 #5
Thats not fear. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #16
OMT Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #29
Wtf? Why wouldn't they? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #41
I agree. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #43
If it was good enough for Muhammad........... ripcord Aug 2021 #38
I'm surprised its just little girls, I thought they had a things for young boys too. Dan Aug 2021 #3
They do. alphafemale Aug 2021 #7
Thanks for clarifying... Dan Aug 2021 #17
" They dress them like girls and make them dance then rape them." Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #20
It is in "The Kite Runner" alphafemale Aug 2021 #32
That practice was outlawed by the Taliban. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #42
Yes, it's called bacha bazi. We ignored it. Sympthsical Aug 2021 #28
And some people dare to say America has moral authority. alphafemale Aug 2021 #33
If this... why in the world are we bringing them here? Dan Aug 2021 #35
Are you contending that all Afghanis are Pederasts? maxsolomon Aug 2021 #44
Of course not, so I could have expressed it better.... Dan Aug 2021 #45
We are bringing those families here. alphafemale Aug 2021 #46
Who would have guessed? lpbk2713 Aug 2021 #4
whether true qazplm135 Aug 2021 #6
Too bad their military calguy Aug 2021 #9
+1. The Afghan army never tried to win, and it is not our fight. dalton99a Aug 2021 #15
300,000 trained and armed. bottomofthehill Aug 2021 #18
No real point in ever affecting the change we want to see in others. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #13
yes qazplm135 Aug 2021 #14
Anyone who thought this was going to be anything but a horror show mn9driver Aug 2021 #8
I mean, there already has been a lot of innocent deaths. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #10
We are very unlikely to ever know how many the Taliban are going to kill. mn9driver Aug 2021 #11
They're likely to die in both scenarios. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #23
Unfortunately, brutality towards women is both a historical and worldwide problem LanternWaste Aug 2021 #12
What happens in a month or so when Afghanistan falls ? Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #19
Iran, China and Pakistan are going to carve it up. roamer65 Aug 2021 #21
There have been terrorist attacks against Chinese in Pakistan . China may regret JI7 Aug 2021 #51
There's already bloodbath and endless 12 yo sex slaves. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #24
Two decades and trillions of dollars. Lancero Aug 2021 #25
With all due respect... Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #27
And yet you're the one posting story, after story, about how the Taliban... Lancero Aug 2021 #30
I guess I'm a bleeding heart. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #31
I would sew razors into their garments somehow. alphafemale Aug 2021 #34
To be fair we never tried to fix th his sort of thing ripcord Aug 2021 #37
I'll catch some heat for this, but it's my side belief. Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #39
No heat from me. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #40
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #48
Post removed Post removed Aug 2021 #49
Bless the Beasts and the Children alphafemale Aug 2021 #47
Pakistan does the same thing JI7 Aug 2021 #50
Awful 😢 Raine Aug 2021 #52
It is heartbreaking. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #53
 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
7. They do.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 05:42 PM
Aug 2021

They dress them like girls and make them dance then rape them.

But after 20 years it is obvious you can't force freedom on people that don't want it.

Dan

(3,582 posts)
17. Thanks for clarifying...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:18 PM
Aug 2021

I question whether its an issue of them not wanting freedom…

Sort of like Slavery, as the saying was “Slave young, Slave long”. Just don’t know any better.

It takes a special someone/ones to break the chains of bondage, and even more to find a Leader/Leaders to lead them out.

 

Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
20. " They dress them like girls and make them dance then rape them."
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:27 PM
Aug 2021

Are you serious?

I swear I didnt know that.

I wish I didnt know that now.

Sympthsical

(9,127 posts)
28. Yes, it's called bacha bazi. We ignored it.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:50 PM
Aug 2021

It's a status thing among the moneyed and powerful. "My boy can dance better than your boy." And, of course, the rape part. Once they're old enough, with facial hair, etc., they're dumped and live in the underbelly of society as dancers and prostitutes. They usually cannot go back to their families because of the honor thing.

When injured, they're not cared for. It's too shameful. They just have "intestinal issues," which is code for, "torn and bleeding internally from all the rape."

American soldiers were literally told to leave it alone:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html

KABUL, Afghanistan — In his last phone call home, Lance Cpl. Gregory Buckley Jr. told his father what was troubling him: From his bunk in southern Afghanistan, he could hear Afghan police officers sexually abusing boys they had brought to the base.

“At night we can hear them screaming, but we’re not allowed to do anything about it,” the Marine’s father, Gregory Buckley Sr., recalled his son telling him before he was shot to death at the base in 2012. He urged his son to tell his superiors. “My son said that his officers told him to look the other way because it’s their culture.”

Rampant sexual abuse of children has long been a problem in Afghanistan, particularly among armed commanders who dominate much of the rural landscape and can bully the population. The practice is called bacha bazi, literally “boy play,” and American soldiers and Marines have been instructed not to intervene — in some cases, not even when their Afghan allies have abused boys on military bases, according to interviews and court records.

The policy has endured as American forces have recruited and organized Afghan militias to help hold territory against the Taliban. But soldiers and Marines have been increasingly troubled that instead of weeding out pedophiles, the American military was arming them in some cases and placing them as the commanders of villages — and doing little when they began abusing children.


Horrible.

Dan

(3,582 posts)
45. Of course not, so I could have expressed it better....
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:24 PM
Aug 2021

Having said that - there are definitely going to be some cultural challenges to the ones that are…

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
46. We are bringing those families here.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:03 AM
Aug 2021

They'll become better Americans than the average person born in a Red State I'd bet.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
6. whether true
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 05:39 PM
Aug 2021

half true or exaggerated...nothing we can do. Not our mission to save the world, and clearly we can't save Afghanistan from themselves.

calguy

(5,335 posts)
9. Too bad their military
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 05:44 PM
Aug 2021

The military we spent trillion son and spent 20 years training them.... Too bad they ran away when the Taliban came to town. It was money down the drain.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. No real point in ever affecting the change we want to see in others.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:00 PM
Aug 2021

Often, it's simply more convenient to throw up our hands, plead futility, and point fingers.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
14. yes
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:02 PM
Aug 2021

because I said this one situation isn't ours to fix nor can we fix it, that must mean I don't ever think we can fix anything at all.

Brilliant.

mn9driver

(4,428 posts)
8. Anyone who thought this was going to be anything but a horror show
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 05:43 PM
Aug 2021

will be proven terribly, terribly wrong. This reminds me of Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. There is going to be a lot of innocent death.

mn9driver

(4,428 posts)
11. We are very unlikely to ever know how many the Taliban are going to kill.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 05:53 PM
Aug 2021

That’s the way it was in Cambodia. But be well assured, it will be more than 3,800.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
23. They're likely to die in both scenarios.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:35 PM
Aug 2021

The difference is that at least here maybe the US won't have blood on its hands.

It's up to the Afghan people to decide what country they want. We attempted to give them democracy and push back against the Taliban for 20+ years and we clearly didn't make a dent. It's sad but we've done all we can do.

More than 71,000 Afghan citizens have lost their lives during the US invasion. That's more than US troops who died in combat operations in Vietnam.

Either way, it's not our responsibility anymore. It's theirs. It's sad what is happening there but we weren't making much of anything better with our continued occupation.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Unfortunately, brutality towards women is both a historical and worldwide problem
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 05:57 PM
Aug 2021

Would be manageable were it confined to today only and Afghanistan only.

The 'Enlightenment' of humanity as a whole was a good try, but never really took, and seems to have been denied equally... regardless of imaginary red and blue lines on a map.




No need to do anything if you don't want to...

 

Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
19. What happens in a month or so when Afghanistan falls ?
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:23 PM
Aug 2021

What happens when we realize there is a bloodbath and endless 12 yo are sex slaves?

JI7

(89,276 posts)
51. There have been terrorist attacks against Chinese in Pakistan . China may regret
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 01:11 AM
Aug 2021

their investment in Pakistan and I mean specifically helping them get the nukes .

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
24. There's already bloodbath and endless 12 yo sex slaves.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:41 PM
Aug 2021

Nearly 4,000 Afghan citizens lost their lives in 2018 to US airstrikes. The country was already on the Tier 3 watchlist by the U.S. State Department's Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons. Tier 3 is the worst tier on the list and are governments who do not comply with the minimum standards outlined in the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000.

Only 19 countries are at Tier 3, including the likes of Syria, South Sudan, Russia and North Korea.

So, to answer your question again: it's already happening and has been happening.

Lancero

(3,015 posts)
25. Two decades and trillions of dollars.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:43 PM
Aug 2021

And the Afghan military folded within weeks. And worse so, the average Afgan person. They can't even find the will to try and protect their own children.

It's a sad realization, but you can only help people who want to be helped. And Afghanistan, in spite of all the money we poured into their nation and the training we provided their military, would rather be ruled by a group of religious radicals.

Lancero

(3,015 posts)
30. And yet you're the one posting story, after story, about how the Taliban...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:51 PM
Aug 2021

Is tearing a swath right through the entire country.

You might not believe it, but you're the one posting all the proof for it.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
34. I would sew razors into their garments somehow.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 07:13 PM
Aug 2021

You will die.

But do not die a slave.

And take at least one with you.

ripcord

(5,547 posts)
37. To be fair we never tried to fix th his sort of thing
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 07:42 PM
Aug 2021

The U.S. has a thing about not interfering with the local culture, this seems to be an over the top example.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
39. I'll catch some heat for this, but it's my side belief.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 08:35 PM
Aug 2021

The Taliban should have been wiped out of existence, using any fucking means necessary, a long time ago.

Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #39)

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