Do you believe Trump will ever be charged with any crimes?

[kentuck]

Or do you believe he is above the law?

Do you think he will ever sit before a jury of his peers?

Do you think he has committed any crimes or do you think he is just a terrible person who has done some rotten stuff, but not illegal?

[CentralMass]

1. No.

[msongs]

2. no. and if so he will buy a pardon nt

[Polly Hennessey]

3. No.

[BannonsLiver]

4. Answers

1. No

2. Definitely not

3. No

4. Yes, I think he has committed crimes daily, likely for decades.

[dchill]

5. Yes. I believe he will be charged.

But as usual, he won't pay.

[Luciferous]

6. Nope

[luv2fly]

7. No, no, no, & yes he has committed crimes AND is terrible

And likely to never see a day in prison.

[cilla4progress]

8. No. I'm starting to think evil

is stronger than good.

[smirkymonkey]

21. That is what is bothering the most about all of this.

All of my illusions about life have been shattered, pretty much all at once.

[kentuck]

41. It does make you question the good in people.

I would agree.

It challenges our belief system.

[Decoy of Fenris]

51. "Evil" -is- stronger than "good" on a level playing field.

To be good, you need a lot of corollaries; Firm moral ground, the financial/social standing to hold true to your morals, dedication to what you perceive to be right and a willingness to sacrifice of yourself for the betterment of the world around you. It takes time, effort and energy to be "Good" and in the end, you walk away with a personal net loss of that time/energy. Being "Good" is functionally a sacrifice.

Being evil, though, is fundamental. You simply do what you wish. You take what you want. You see someone being "Good" and take their sacrifice for your own gain. Greed and power are just means to an end when you're "Evil", tools to abuse the "Good" to enhance your own status. There's a reason most people we'd consider "Evil" are also considered incredibly rich/successful. Take away benevolent morality from someone and their reservations/hesitations are removed, unleashing them to do whatever they wish at any cost.


It takes a great multitude of people being "Good" to outweigh the "Evil" of far fewer, as we're seeing in the political arena right now. The right wing has perpetuated a culture of "Fuck you, that's why", and while we may hold the political powerhouses of the White House and the Legislature at the moment, the Repubs are winning on the undercard; The judges, the state and local legislatures, and most importantly, in the media. They can, and do, lie, cheat, and steal, and the left seems to have few if any answers for them; When called out on one lie, they simply lie again, and that's a major benefit of their 'Evil'. They are unaccountable to anyone except themselves and their like-minded peers, and can be as "Evil" as they feel they can get away with.

Being "Good" can't counter Evil like that on an even playing field.

[BlueTsunami2018]

9. No. He'll walk away as they've all walked away.

Nixon, Reagan, both Bushes and most of their cronies. They’ll be back to finish the job before the end of the decade. This country is too stupid and corrupt to stop it from happening.

[WarGamer]

10. No, of course not.

Has he committed crimes? It sure seems like it, but he's never been charged with anything. Some seem to think his taxes are full of crimes but the IRS has had them for decades and no crimes...

I think he's always had others do the shady stuff.

[Captain Zero]

11. nope. i've given up. it would turn over too many rocks.

anybody who investigates is afraid, it looks like to me.

[kentuck]

12. If people lose faith in the justice system, do they also lose faith in democracy?

Is it irreparable damage?

Or can it be fixed?

[Crunchy Frog]

23. If neither of them actually function, there's no reason anyone should have faith in either of them.

The damage isn't in the "loss of faith", it's in the failures of the institutions themselves.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. I don't think he'll ever be charged.

[njhoneybadger]

14. Not going to happen.

[gab13by13]

15. I get sick of hearing that

the dirt is going to go to the IG. that means we might hear something in a year and a half or more.

[kentuck]

17. Yep! How come Trump fired all his IG's except Michael Horowitz?

I don't trust the guy? He did a lot of favors for Trump, from James Comey decison to the FISA Court decisions, he always seemed to protect Trump?

[USALiberal]

16. No

[Blue Owl]

18. It's hard to believe in true justice with fucks like tRump out there

scamming everyone in broad daylight…

[Crunchy Frog]

19. I'll believe it if I see it.

[Deuxcents]

24. Me, too

[superpatriotman]

20. No

Nt

[JenniferJuniper]

22. No. Never. But he'll die. Eventually.

[brooklynite]

25. If you couldn't be bothered to provide answers, why should I?

[kentuck]

28. Because you would have disagreed with the answers also...

Right?

[brooklynite]

30. I don't know; but if I did, that's the start of discourse...

[kentuck]

32. Why end it before it starts??

Why waste your valuable time?

[brooklynite]

37. Was the purpose of the thread just to get people to agree with you?

Doesn't seem worth the effort.

[kentuck]

40. You are entitled to your opinion.

No need to attack people.

[SoCalDavidS]

26. Not A Chance nt

[Shellback Squid]

27. yes, his time will come

[David__77]

29. I think him becoming President again is more likely than criminal charges.

I think any trial of him relating to his coup conspiracy would inevitably be a “political trial.” I think some people in power consider that that would be damaging to the institutions. I think that perspective misjudged the threat and actual situation.

[happybird]

31. Nope

[Hoyt]

33. Probably not. I feel almost certain he'll never do jail time. He might

face civil suits and spend a ton on legal fees (although his campaign fund might pay much of that).

His punishment will be he’s a loser who had a chance to go down in history as something other than a cad, racist, incompetent, liar, greedy POS, fool, and worse, who went out and attracted the votes of ignorant rubes.

[kentuck]

35. I think there should be an historical record...

...and not left open to public interpretation alone.

I think he deserves a hearing, at the very least, to defend himself against the charges. Then let history record it.

[Hoyt]

43. I, too, would love to see him testify under penalty for perjury

even if he is given immunity for underlying crimes.

However, don’t think there is a jury in this country that would convict him of anything remotely political. There will always be one trumpster who “sacrifices himself” to defend the former guy.

[area51]

34. No, I don't believe he'll be charged.

He should be, though.

[RainCaster]

36. Not in this life.

[Skittles]

38. his "peers" are dictators in other countries

he's a fascist piece of shit who, like Dubya, will get away will everything

[beaglelover]

39. Nope.

[Nexus2]

42. At this point I really don't think so, may happen but I'm not holding my breath.

After he's dead (and may be I am too) it'll probably bubble up, if anyone cares at that point.

I'd love to be wrong.

Or perhaps there is a non amoral (or non-malign....) Afterlife where he might suffer some consequences for his actions in life

[hamsterjill]

44. No.

Absolutely no. And that makes me so angry!!!

[SoonerPride]

45. No. Never

He will never face trial.

[GoodRaisin]

46. No.

He's committed crimes alright but I expect for any hard evidence against him to be suppressed and buried.

[hibbing]

47. Nope, and neither will any of his grifting family n/t

[BeerBarrelPolka]

48. No

He has so far shown that he is above the law.

[ansible]

49. He sure won't when any criticism as to WHY will get your posts deleted here

[Demobrat]

50. No

That’s not how justice works in this country.