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Sat Aug 14, 2021, 02:36 AM

Who Supplies The Taliban - Where Do They Get Their Money From....

Is Russia supplying arms to the Taliban? Are they supporting the Taliban in order to make Biden look bad? Is Russia still in cahoots with the Repugs - wanting the Repugs and Tr**p to get back in power? Is this what is going on?

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global1 Aug 14 OP
jaysunb Aug 14 #1
mia Aug 14 #2
hookaleft Aug 14 #3
leftstreet Aug 14 #4
ansible Aug 14 #5
stopdiggin Aug 14 #6
TreasonousBastard Aug 14 #7
Hotler Aug 14 #14
helpisontheway Aug 14 #8
Irish_Dem Aug 14 #9
Crazyleftie Aug 14 #10
dalton99a Aug 14 #12
Deminpenn Aug 14 #11
EX500rider Aug 14 #13

Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 02:45 AM

1. Doubtful, but you may consider religious affiliations. Oil. Hatred of the US. Nt

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 02:45 AM

2. Good question.

The same people who are funding the Republican regime?

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 02:46 AM

3. uh........poppies.

Please tell me you know about the drug trade.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 02:48 AM

4. Global heroin trade

It's essentially a narco state

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 02:55 AM

5. China just announced they're going to recognize the Taliban if Kabul falls

 

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 03:20 AM

6. I don't have direct evidence of this

but I think the real question here (given both the history - and commonplace geopolitical machinations) -- is why the heck wouldn't they? Leaving Trump and the Republicans quite aside ... It's weaken, sap and humiliate (whenever possible) your opponent 101.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 03:22 AM

7. One of many sources I found...

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124821049

Most of it is the opium trade, although they claim to have eliminated it the last time they ran the place. US forces have bombed fields and factories but they are cheap and easy to get back up into production.

They also tax just about everything in their territories-- agriculture besides opium, any truck convoys passing through, just about anything they can intimidate someone into paying. And don't forget that when they take over a government or local site, they take all the arms, cash, and anything of value.

And, Muslim charities, largely from the Gulf states, are a large source, although it's impossible to say how large. Pakistan, Iran, and other neighbors have been known to throw them a bone here and there.

And don't ever forget the local warlords-- allegiances last for days, maybe, and the local bosses can throw them a few bucks to steer them in a particular direction.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:30 AM

14. And selling weapons....nt

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 04:58 AM

9. Drugs, mining, extortion/taxes, donations, exports, foreign sources.

They are mega rich, bring in about $1.6 billion a year according to one article I just read.

(Note that the Afghan government brings in about $6 Billion a year.)

Russia, Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are all believed to bankroll the Taliban.

The Taliban is obviously very wealthy, well funded and very organized.

The US spent $2 Trillion and 20 years fighting them and left in defeat.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 07:12 AM

10. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia

have a long history of supporting and funding the Taliban. It was always a losing situation for the US:

Due to the involvement of Indian intelligence (RAW) in supporting the Northern Alliance, Pakistan looked to neutralise this threat by cultivating the Taliban.[21] In 2001 alone, according to several international sources, 28,00030,000 Afghans, which took refuge in Pakistan during Afghan jihad, 14,00015,000 Afghan Taliban and 2,0003,000 Al Qaeda militants were fighting against anti-Taliban forces in Afghanistan as a roughly 45,000 strong military force.[18][22][23][24] Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf then as Chief of Army Staff was responsible for sending thousands of Pakistanis to fight alongside the Taliban and Bin Laden against the forces of Ahmad Shah Massoud.[18][19][25] Of the estimated 28,000 Afghan refugees returned from Pakistan fighting in Afghanistan, 8,000 were militants recruited in madrassas filling regular Taliban ranks.[22] A 1998 document by the U.S. State Department confirms that "2040 percent of [regular] Taliban soldiers are returned Afghans from Pakistani refugee camps".[19]

Human Rights Watch wrote in 2000:

Of all the foreign powers involved in efforts to sustain and manipulate the ongoing fighting [in Afghanistan], Pakistan is distinguished both by the sweep of its objectives and the scale of its efforts, which include soliciting funding for the Taliban, bankrolling Taliban operations, providing diplomatic support as the Taliban's virtual emissaries abroad, arranging training for Taliban fighters, recruiting skilled and unskilled manpower to serve in Taliban armies, planning and directing offensives, providing and facilitating shipments of ammunition and fuel, and ... directly providing combat support.[26]

On August 1, 1997 the Taliban launched an attack on Sheberghan, the main military base of Abdul Rashid Dostum. Dostum has said the reason the attack was successful was due to 1500 Pakistani commandos taking part and that the Pakistani air force also gave support.[27]

In 1998, Iran accused Pakistan of sending its air force to bomb Mazar-i-Sharif in support of Taliban forces and directly accused Pakistani troops for "war crimes at Bamiyan".[28] The same year Russia said that Pakistan was responsible for the military expansion of the Taliban in northern Afghanistan by sending large numbers of Pakistani troops, some of whom had subsequently been taken as prisoners by the anti-Taliban United Front.[29]

In 2000, the UN Security Council imposed an arms embargo against military support to the Taliban, with UN officials explicitly singling out Pakistan. The UN secretary-general implicitly criticized Pakistan for its military support and the Security Council stated it was "deeply distress[ed] over reports of involvement in the fighting, on the Taliban side, of thousands of non-Afghan nationals".[30] In July 2001, several countries including the United States, accused Pakistan of being "in violation of U.N. sanctions because of its military aid to the Taliban".[31]

In 2000, British Intelligence reported that the ISI was taking an active role in several Al Qaeda training camps.[32] The ISI helped with the construction of training camps for both the Taliban and Al Qaeda.[32][33][34] From 1996 to 2001 the Al Qaeda of Osama Bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri became a state within the Taliban state.[35] Bin Laden sent Arab and Central Asian Al-Qaeda militants to join the fight against the United Front among them his Brigade 055.[35][36]

With the fall of Kabul to anti-Taliban forces in November 2001, ISI forces worked with and helped Taliban militias who were in full retreat.[37] In November 2001, Taliban, Al-Qaeda combatants and ISI operatives were safely evacuated from Kunduz on Pakistan Air Force cargo aircraft to Pakistan Air Force bases in Chitral and Gilgit in Pakistan's Northern Areas in what has been dubbed the "Airlift of Evil".[38]

The role of the Pakistani military has been described by international observers as well as by the anti-Taliban leader Ahmad Shah Massoud as a "creeping invasion".[39] The "creeping invasion" proved unable to defeat the severely outnumbered anti-Taliban forces.[39]

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Response to Crazyleftie (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:05 AM

12. +1

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 07:18 AM

11. Always understood Pakistan was the major supporter

of the taliban, especially the ISI, Pakistan's intelligence service.

On the flip side, now Pakistan will own whatever bad deeds their surrogates do. The US and other countries can put plenty of political and economic pressure on Pakistan to rein the taliban in. If the US could actually focus on resolving the issues between India and Pakistan, that would eliminate much of the strife in that region.

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Response to Deminpenn (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:23 AM

13. "actually focus on resolving the issues between India and Pakistan"

Not really possible as the Pakistani military keeps the tension high on purpose to justify their budget.
In a real conventional was the Indians would wipe the floor with them.

India:
population:1.366 billion
GDP: 2.869 trillion USD
Military budget:$72.9 billion

Pakistan:
Pop:216.6 million
GDP:278.2 billion
Military budget: $8.78 billion

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