"It's not going to be peaceful much longer. We're building, we're organizing."

[Nevilledog]

Link to tweet

Tweet text:
Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
Carlos Piccata, who says he is a combat vet, to the Shasta, CA county commission: “It’s not going to be peaceful much longer. We’re building, we’re organizing. You won’t stop us when the time comes. This is a warning for what’s coming. There’s a million people just like me.”


6:58 AM · Aug 14, 2021

Guess the guy's name is Zapata, not Piccata.

[Texaswitchy]

1. There are a lot more of us.

Why are they always so mad.

[bamagal62]

18. That's what I always wonder.

They were even mad when they had their beloved trump in the White House. What are they all so angry about? What exactly do they want that will make them all happy about life?

[Texaswitchy]

29. I do not think they know.

They just want to angry.

[BadgerKid]

51. I figure it's part evil, part bully complex

To feel better by putting others down - down “in their place”- with intent to enforce it physically. Calling in just gripers gonna gripe doesn’t capture the intent to do harm.

[zuul]

37. Why are they always so violent?

When elections were seemingly stolen from Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, we were rightly pissed off, but there was no violence.

I attended 12 protests in 2016 and 2017. Not one incidence of violence.

[JHB]

38. Because perpetual anger is powerfully addicting, wildely hallucinogenic, and...

...very, very lucrative for its purveyors.

[Tree Lady]

42. Believe me we are very angry too

Watching people needlessly die or go to the hospital for something that could have been prevented. Angry we got the vaccine so we could go back to our lives and now its even worse because of those that refuse to listen to the truth.

My daughter a manager of large dealership with 300 employees is fighting a break out of covid now. She had gone for over a year with no cases with all those employees until the variant. They lifted the mask rule for 2 weeks and got 15 cases, back to masks and so many people home she has been working 12 hour days. She made sure as many got the vaccine as possible, her boss the owner wouldn't mandate it because he was afraid of lawsuits, he was hoping the state would.

She has 15 girls in large office next to her and talked everyone of them into it. But she said 13 of the 15 cases were vaccinated but the two unvaccinated were the sickest.

Only 1 in the office got it but a bunch of girls stayed home for awhile after and one quit. So she is working non stop, so yes we are angry very very angry!

[dutch777]

2. Wonder if this was just a wild Q rant or in reference to something specific?

I know the Shasta area is having hard economic times due to combination of the pandemic and the drought. The lake is so low that much of the tourist business it normally feeds is way down and that is decreasing incomes and causing higher unemployment.

[ShazamIam]

11. And the terrible fires in that region in 2017 and 2018.

The largest city, Redding has a huge retirement population and of economic dependency on that retired community and tourism. A few years ago it was where more heart surgeries took place than anywhere else in the nation.

https://www.bmartin.cc/dissent/documents/health/tenet_redding.html
https://www.claimsjournal.com/news/west/2005/11/25/62481.htm

Better known but pay walled sources,
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-nov-16-fi-tenet16-story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/04/business/california-patients-talk-of-needless-heart-surgery.html

The locals in the area have been in economic distress for decades, and are often part of that insane divide California movement to make N. Cal the state of Jefferson.

The speaker is representative of his demographic, a left behind Citizen who did not want to or could not move to economic opportunity and while the official (conservative led) U.S. Government policy has been to focus on moving the U.S. population from rural areas to urban centers.

Like how the entire middle and agriculture center of the U.S. has been decimated by corporate ag taking over what was once family farms, achieved by farm policy that was changed in the 70s to favor corporate and monopolized food production over family farms followed by the deliberately created farm bubble bust of the 80s where millions of family farms were bankrupted. This was achieved by inflating the value, aggressively selling loans, special loans that could be called in by the lenders with only a few days notice and were.

[electric_blue68]

26. That farming stuff is such a crime... having for a long time...

been acquaintances with several smallish to moderate/medium size farmers in our biggest 💖 Green Market in Manhattan ( NYC ).

[gohuskies]

3. Call them what they are treasonous American Taliban

These idiotic zealots who have swallowed the corrupt right wing conspiracy theories and the slobfather's Big Lie are beyond reach of reason. They need to be tried and locked up till they are old and neutered from society.

[Carlitos Brigante]

4. Fast forward to his ass crying in court about how "he didn't mean it". I'm really tired of

having to share space with these proto fascist drama queens.

[SergeStorms]

9. Plus they stand in the way....

of the rest of us who are trying to get a grip on the deadly pandemic that's killing Americans by the hundreds of thousands.

But they want everything open with no precautions taken, no masks being worn. They want to ignore all that and have, " business as usual". He has no idea that this is happening worldwide, and it's not just he and his pals who are hurting. They won't do anything to try to stop the spread of this disease, so they're the very reason it's prolonged. But he just keeps getting madder and madder at everyone else.

Chances are good that this idiot will get COVID and die before his "revolution" ever gets off the ground. The same with all his revolutionary friends.

[Septua]

41. "But they want everything open with no precautions taken..."

"They won't do anything to try to stop the spread of this disease, so they're the very reason it's prolonged."

An insane situation...

[Hugin]

5. Pretty sad if it's going to take a million of you...

to take out one county commission.

Just saying.

Maybe you'd better bring lunch.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

6. His training was paid for by the taxpayers

re enlist this A-hole and throw him in the stockade until he gets the freakin message !


The gun nuts should not be the ones fighting back, nothing wrong was done to them ???

[Nevilledog]

24. Militias are recruiting

Link to tweet

Tweet text:
Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
New pro-militia report trending on MAGA social media says that militia groups have more than doubled since 2008 to over 500, and there is a “growing alliance with law enforcement,” since they “recruit heavily from law enforcement and former military.”


8:40 AM · Aug 14, 2021

[Wingus Dingus]

7. What is the context of this threat?

[Sympthsical]

71. Business owner protesting Covid restrictions

He and others are leading a charge to recall a few of the county board supervisors. He apparently also attacked a BLM activist at his place of business.

So, you know, a swell fellow.

This is why I hate Twitter. Would it have killed anyone to let us know what this was about?

[Wingus Dingus]

73. Thanks. I wasn't able to figure that out from his speech and I thought

maybe this was a well-known situation or news story I had totally missed.

[jalan48]

8. They are armed and we are not. It will only take another Trump to encourage armed violence and we

will see it happen.

[SergeStorms]

13. "We are not"?

There's more of us who are armed than this bozo thinks. We don't worship guns like them, but we're here, we're armed, and if push comes to shove there will be more resistance than they ever dreamed of there being.

They see all Democrats as being unarmed and passive. Do we have a surprise for them.

[jalan48]

15. Some of us are but not like the extreme right. Gun ownership is a part of their identity.

I hope you are right but I don't see Democrats standing up at meetings like this and challenging this narrative.

[SergeStorms]

60. Talk is cheap.

My Dad used to tell me, "A hollow drum makes the most noise". I've always found that old saw to be true.

[jalan48]

70. Yep-it's all good.

[Bantamfancier]

76. "When it's time to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."

Tuco the ugly.

[A HERETIC I AM]

72. That's because people that are politically left...

Tend to be smarter, and as a result, less likely to be dumbass blowhards like this guy.

[drray23]

14. We are not ?

Believe it or not many democrats such as myself are armed. The difference is that we are not NRA right-wing nuts pushing for no restrictions or background check.

[jalan48]

16. The only people I see currently challenging the armed right wing is Antifa.

[ShazamIam]

35. And both former AG Barr and FBI Director Wray said there is no antifa as an organization and that

those arrested for violence during the Floyd protests were not linked to any leftists group but to militias. (he didn't say right wing) specifically but even conservative media aren't claiming there are armed and organized antifa operators.
Barr made a public announcement, Wray testified that to Congress.

[Wingus Dingus]

20. Yeah. My husband has a couple old shotguns for home defense

purposes--but we're not into guns for the sake of guns. Still, I don't think Dems should ever propagate the myth that as a group we're unarmed and defenseless.

[Elessar Zappa]

17. Many of us are.

I don’t know about you but I don’t fear these idiots one bit.

[jalan48]

19. Are we organized like they are?

[Elessar Zappa]

22. They're not as organized as they pretend to be.

The number of right wingers prepared to take up arms against the government is small. January 6th happened because we had a complicit administration in power.

[jalan48]

25. Yes, and the next Republican Administration is likely to be complicit. That's what Republican's

are showing us.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. Are You Suggesting Appeasement?

Or surrender?
This punk is full of it.
There's going to be no large scale, organized violent action.
These "heavily armed" tools actually left their guns in the hotels in Virginia on 1/6 because they feared the DC gun laws.
Besides, people bent on violence don't announce their illegal intentions on an internet live feed.
There's a lot of empty bluster from this crowd.
Don't get suckered by it.

[jalan48]

30. I'm saying right wing violence is being legitimized in our country. We ignore it at our peril.

[ProfessorGAC]

36. So, You're Suggesting Surrender!

Got it.
No solution, but fear.
Might as well cower & give up.
There's a wide gulf between prudence and inflated fear.

[jalan48]

40. January 6th should tell you something about prudence. If Republican's had reacted in a prudent

way all of those involved would have been publicly shamed and a call for a bipartisan investigation by both parties would be happening. Fascism on the rise and yes, we should be fearful about it. How do you propose we stop it?

[ProfessorGAC]

44. You First

You're proposing no solution. You're proposing surrender.
You're selling fear.
I'm not buying.

[jalan48]

46. Do what you like. The next election cycle should give us an idea of where we are heading.

[TheRealNorth]

57. Exactly

As others have said, had Jan 6 been done by BLM, there would have been a lot more people killed by the police.

[11 Bravo]

52. "We"? Have you got a mouse in your pocket?

[Nevilledog]

58. More info on the guy

Link to tweet

Tweet text:
Jared Holt
@jaredlholt
·
Aug 14, 2021
Carlos Zapata belongs to a militia in California and has already demonstrated his capacity for violence. I don’t want to fearmonger but I wouldn’t be so quick to write this off.

https://latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-29/militia-member-two-others-charged-in-northern-california-attack-on-blm-activist…

Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
Carlos Piccata, who says he is a combat vet, to the Shasta, CA county commission: “It’s not going to be peaceful much longer. We’re building, we’re organizing. You won’t stop us when the time comes. This is a warning for what’s coming. There’s a million people just like me.”
Embedded video

Jared Holt
@jaredlholt
Militias aren’t legal in California to begin with, which begs the question of why authorities haven’t just zeroed in on this guy already

https://law.georgetown.edu/icap/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2020/09/California.pdf…
1:53 PM · Aug 14, 2021

[yardwork]

55. Well, what are they going to do?

Any significant civil unrest would require the complicity of the military and paramilitary organizations. I realize that there are a lot of right wing racists in the police forces, government agencies and military, but I know fir a fact that there are plenty who are not. As we saw on January 6, the U. S. military refused to participate in an attempted coup. The badly outnumbered Capitol police held strong.

This guy is a bully and a poser. I'm not afraid of him.

[ItsjustMe]

10. Bring It on you traitor

I personally have had enough of your bullshit, so just bring It on.

[Piasladic]

12. he says "our families are starving" (0.29)

if he means that literally, I hope he finds relief.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. Does He Look Like He's Malnourished To You?

I don't believe him.

[Piasladic]

27. Nope- he looks kind of plump

still I see kids of well-fed adults who don't even have enough in them to make a proper poop.

[ProfessorGAC]

34. If So,...

...I feel for his kids.
I think it more likely he's a liar.

[dawg]

32. Dude probably just wants to seize a dam or something.

Irrigate his crops and wreck everything else living downstream.

[Baitball Blogger]

28. Well, he isn't saying anything that we didn't know.

Which is why the DOJ needs to take prosecution of the Jan. 6 Insurrectionists more seriously.

[Takket]

31. he just threatened the city officals with violence

if the FBI isn't hacking into his phone and computer as we speak, then I don't know why we have an FBI.

infiltrate, learn their plans, then bring the group down

[Mariana]

61. He should have been arrested on the spot, for making terroristic threats. nt.

[PufPuf23]

68. Zapata has already been involved with two assaults

The first was covered up by initially local LE and that is how part of the Shasta county situation made the LA Times.

Go to this link; https://anewscafe.com/

[bluestarone]

33. I'm betting he will be the one

Standing in the background letting his COMRADES die first!

[ZonkerHarris]

39. It will be interesting when these idiots discover not all liberals are pacifists.

they think just cause they will get violent we will roll over for their fascist shit.
Nope.
Not gonna happen.

[Bristlecone]

43. Jihadist

[panader0]

45. I always admired Emiliano Zapata.

Or is the guy's real name Zapata?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emiliano_Zapata

[AnotherMother4Peace]

47. And here's a San Diego police sergeant espousing the same thing.

Posted at 5:59 PM, Aug 13, 2021 and last updated 5:59 PM, Aug 13, 2021

SAN DIEGO (KGTV) - The San Diego Police Department is investing an online post made by a member of the department.

According to a letter the NAACP San Diego Branch sent to San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria, the post mentions 2nd Amendment rights and “alleges there would be support of hundreds of officers in resisting the lawful government of our city and state.”

They said the post, made by a sergeant in the San Diego Police Department, states he and another person are building a coalition of cops who will stand up for their “God given freedoms.”

https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/naacp-calls-for-an-investigation-into-a-sdpd-sergeants-online-post

[StarryNite]

48. What does he expect to achieve with the violence he is planning?

How is that going to feed his family? Who will feed his family when he's in prison? What a "moran".

[MoonRiver]

49. So friggin lame, not to mention delusional

[gulliver]

50. Give me an example of someone who can't feed their family because of masks.

These folks just don't like masks (who does?), so they get angry due to frustration. Then they invent (or assume) justifications and support for their anger. Charlie Manson thought like this guy does. We're looking at a broken unit.

He needs to be asked where he got the idea there's a million people like him or that someone was starving because of masks. He'll find he has no answer and no example. It's just him having problems. He probably needs help and, as a vet, he deserves it.

[MineralMan]

53. Moron! There are 329 Million who are not "just like you."

Guess what? Many of them are armed, as well. Stay off my street with your violent insurrection. That's my advice. I'm armed. I'm trained. You won't even see me.

[FelineOverlord]

54. His real name is Carlos Zapata

I think this is the guy. He has a long history of craziness:

Group to protest charges against Carlos Zapata outside courthouse Wednesday

Militia member and two others charged in Northern California attack on BLM activist ]

It Takes a Village to Serve Carlos Zapata His Restraining Order

[PufPuf23]

65. Thank you for posting this. I posted a link to anewscafe

down thread. There is some great and even inspiring to DU material at Dori Chamberlain's site.

I had a home in Redding from 1989 to 2003 but actually lived there less than half that time as also lived/worked in Portland, Corvallis, and Humboldt during the same time period. I'm old and decrepit and live in my county of origin, Humboldt, now.

Check out this 8/11/21 article about part of the medical community and masks etc. Loads of pictures at the link.

Hundreds Attend Redding Protest Against State-Mandated Vaccines

Posted on August 11, 2021 by Doni Chamberlain and Patricia Graves

Monday afternoon hundreds of people converged upon the intersection outside Mercy Medical Center in Redding’s triple-digit heat to voice their disapproval of a recent state-mandated vaccine requirement for healthcare workers.

The rally was attended by people of all ages, from senior citizens sitting in lawn chairs in the shade, to a father with an infant in a front pack. The multitudes represented a cross section of healthcare occupations, joined by their family, friends and supporters.

The rally offered viewpoints on other topics, such as masks. One little boy held a sign while perched upon the shoulders of a man with a beard, sunglasses and a baseball cap.

“I don’t co-parent with the government,” said the boy’s sign. “Unmask your kids.”

The majority of protesters were women, many of whom wore scrubs.

The vaccine order that went into effect Thursday instigated protests throughout California, similar to Redding’s. California Gov. Gavin Newsome tweeted the news on Aug. 5, including the deadline, that healthcare workers have until Sept. 30 to comply.

much more at: https://anewscafe.com/2021/08/11/redding/hundreds-attend-redding-protest-against-state-mandated-vaccines/

[Hekate]

56. These fckrs really, really want a Civil War -- bloodbath & all.

[Texaswitchy]

59. A lot of them would be dead also their customers.

How long would he stay open.

[PufPuf23]

62. If one wants to know what is going on in Shasta county and environs, here

is a link to great detail.

Some of the articles are pretty amazing and detailed, and most at DU will be even inspired by the woman who operates anewscafe.com, and her fellow journalists and those in comments that pushback against Zapata, the Bethel Church, and corrupt law enforcement among other threats.

I have not yet read this thread but scanned the posts to see if this link was posted yet.

https://anewscafe.com/

Lots of detail and images and videos, probably the best documentation of current strife in a community to be found.

[Nevilledog]

67. Thank you.

[jalan48]

77. Thanks for sharing this. I've bookmarked are will follow. There are violent extremists here

in Oregon as well.

[Windy City Charlie]

63. Yet

Yet, he'll want the other 999,999 to make the first move. Reminds me of a guy wanting his friend to throw the first punch at someone, but throws him under the bus when criminal charges are made.

[PufPuf23]

69. Zapata has already been involved in two assaults.

The first covered up by LE and was how this story got to LA Times.

Each a woman that works for him, Elizabeth Bailey, initiated the physical contact and her boyfriend did the actual assault.

I once was acquainted professionally with Nadine Bailey, Elizabeth's mother in Trinity county who came to political prominence as a timber industry spokesperson during the Spotted Owl days. Nadine is ultra-rightwing and her existence had not crossed my mind in 25 years or so.

[joetheman]

64. Infiltrate and lock them all up now! nt

[Javaman]

74. There are, more than likely, undercover ops embedded

Within these nut jobs.

They will fall apart before they even get going

[Progressive Jones]

75. Exactly what is this asshole whining about? nt

[JHB]

78. Guess what, chuckles: We're angry too, and our anger isn't based on fantasy and horeseshit.

Yours is.