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Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:13 PM

Hoo boy, just got 8 California ballots in the mail. Not great.

Two of them are legitimately ours.

Two are right house number, wrong street.

Two are right street, wrong house number.

Two are people who don't (no longer?) live here.

The four in my neighborhood I'll be walking over in the morning. Our two will get mailed when I do that.

Still. Eesh, USPS. Good thing it doesn't matter, eh?

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Reply Hoo boy, just got 8 California ballots in the mail. Not great. (Original post)
Sympthsical Aug 2021 OP
marble falls Aug 2021 #1
Hekate Aug 2021 #2
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #6
BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #23
aggiesal Aug 2021 #26
Hekate Aug 2021 #31
aggiesal Aug 2021 #42
Hekate Aug 2021 #45
blogslug Aug 2021 #3
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #7
brush Aug 2021 #13
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #14
moonscape Aug 2021 #32
IcyPeas Aug 2021 #22
moonscape Aug 2021 #33
IcyPeas Aug 2021 #37
moonscape Aug 2021 #38
Captain Stern Aug 2021 #39
moonscape Aug 2021 #43
TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #4
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #10
ornotna Aug 2021 #5
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #8
ornotna Aug 2021 #12
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #15
brush Aug 2021 #9
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #11
brush Aug 2021 #16
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #18
Deuxcents Aug 2021 #19
IcyPeas Aug 2021 #24
Hekate Aug 2021 #29
Indykatie Aug 2021 #17
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #20
ShazamIam Aug 2021 #21
BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #25
RockRaven Aug 2021 #27
NullTuples Aug 2021 #28
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #40
NullTuples Aug 2021 #44
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #47
NullTuples Aug 2021 #48
Raine Aug 2021 #30
LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #34
CousinIT Aug 2021 #35
secondwind Aug 2021 #36
GoCubsGo Aug 2021 #41
forthemiddle Aug 2021 #46

Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:17 PM

1. One manifestation, one vote?

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:19 PM

2. Thank deJoy. Overworked, understaffed, badly equipped, badly managed. He & his ilk are...

Ö deliberately trying to destroy this venerable American institution, one so important it was founded by Ben Franklin and mentioned in the Constitution. It is not designed to turn a profit ó it is designed to render a vital service.

before I really start to rant

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Response to Hekate (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:21 PM

6. Believe me, it was the first name that entered my mind n/t

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Response to Hekate (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:18 AM

23. I hate him with a passion.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:29 AM

26. All roads except toll roads are designed for USPS ...

When we used to use maps (way before GPS), the matrix that showed distances between cities, was determined by distances between the main post offices at each city.
That's a bit of trivia.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #26)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:07 AM

31. Cool trivia-- but also tells us how important the POs are!

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Response to Hekate (Reply #31)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:18 AM

42. It's basically the only Federal building ...

that's in every municipality.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #42)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:25 PM

45. It won't be any more if deJoy and the people who put him in charge have their way. nt

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:20 PM

3. As long as you vote to keep Newsom in office

You will be doing that won't you?

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Response to blogslug (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:22 PM

7. Yep

Going to research question 2 tonight. I don't feel comfortable at all leaving that blank.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:27 PM

13. Why give someone else a vote to get Newsom out? Best to vote for Newsom by...

just checking item number 1, which means "No" on the recall of the governor.

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Response to brush (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:29 PM

14. I believe in having contingencies

If Newsom wins - and I've already filled in NO on the recall, then what I do on question two doesn't matter. But if he loses, and Republicans coalesce enough around Elder, hard pass.

I think it's irresponsible for me to leave it blank.

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Response to brush (Reply #13)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:39 AM

32. Not making a choice if the recall

succeeds is what gives the other side oneís vote.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:17 AM

22. Cal Dems recommend leaving question 2 blank....

Rusty Hicks is the Chair of the California Democratic Party.


?s=19

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #22)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:41 AM

33. I don't understand the reasoning behind this at all.

Why leave #2 blank?

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Response to moonscape (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:11 AM

37. Here's the names of the other Dems on the ballot...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_California_gubernatorial_recall_election

None of them are even recognizable names and would stand zero chance. I'm going to follow their guidance and put all NY money in one pot.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #37)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:18 AM

38. What I don't get though is that it's

all the money in one pot on question #1. Then, they roll out another pot. Not trying to belabor this, and will dig in tomorrow, but I guess at least there are no marginally palatable dems if the recall succeeds so not to tempt disaffected dems from voting yes.

I still donít think I can leave it blank. Iíll write in Obama!

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Response to moonscape (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:56 AM

39. It doesn't sound like there is any 'reasoning' behind this.

By answering 'no' to question 1, and leaving question two blank, one is essentially saying:

"I don't want Newsom removed, but if he is, I don't care whether his replacement is a Democrat or not."

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Response to Captain Stern (Reply #39)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:50 AM

43. Exactly. Further "you Republicans just pick

whichever scumbag you want.Ē

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:20 PM

4. It's a, it's a, it's a. . .

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:25 PM

10. Oooh, is this all the Democratic fraud I keep hearing about?

My god, the fraud was coming from inside the house!

At least they came to a place where we'll get them to the right people. I imagine an apathetic type tossing them. Or worse.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:21 PM

5. At 11 at night on a Saturday?

Mail must be really slow there.

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Response to ornotna (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:24 PM

8. It's 8pm in California

And I'm lazy and didn't go out to get the mail until a bit ago. Our mail usually hits around 4pm-ish.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:26 PM

12. Doh!

You mean there's more than one time zone?

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Response to ornotna (Reply #12)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:29 PM

15. We all live in the human time zone

And I will now put that on kitchen towels and sell them on Etsy.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:24 PM

9. Be sure you file a complaint to the Post Office. Maybe it'll spur them to get off their...

ass and get DeJoy out of there so the PO can get back to efficient, speedy deliveries.

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Response to brush (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:26 PM

11. I wouldn't want to get my carrier in trouble

I genuinely like her. She's probably got a truck full of the things and they got shuffled around. Like I said, they were close! Two are a few houses down, and two are just another street over.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:31 PM

16. That's quite a number of mistakes. She may not be doing the greatest job.

Alerting the PO may spur her to do better. What if the mistake was made on a check for you, or some of the other peoples' mail you got?

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Response to brush (Reply #16)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:32 PM

18. You have a fair point

If everyone's getting ballots today, they're probably having a complete day of it. I feel for them. They're already getting hosed by DeJoy, and now they have this completely nonsensical ass ache courtesy of Republican shit heels.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:40 PM

19. Maybe over worked

Under appreciated and under paid. Please donít report for this.. imo..Dejoy wants the p o privatized. A big union and its benefits...hmmm.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:19 AM

24. Sorry, but it's their job to get it right. This is too important.

8 ballots! Come on.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:05 AM

29. When mail for someone on our street is misdelivered to us, hubby takes it to the right house...

I have to say he gets to know a lot more people than I do!

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:32 PM

17. Ballots Are Bulky Mail- Sad That The Postal Worker Wouldn't Notice Leaving 8 Ballots at 1 House n/t

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Response to Indykatie (Reply #17)

Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:57 PM

20. Not that unusual for us

We're kind of a mini post office ourselves. Since we both largely work from home, friends and family who don't will often have Amazon or anything important sent to us to avoid porch pirates in their neighborhood. It feels like there are always boxes in our foyer waiting to be picked up.

I'd be surprised if the carrier didn't think eight billion people lived here.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:20 AM

25. I got in the mail today...

I literally kissed it. GOTV is on my mask and when I wore it to my supermarkets today I got a lot of "thumbs up"s.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:44 AM

27. That sort of aberrant result makes one wonder about your local USPS people...

Or at minimum their working conditions.

Thankfully my household got a ballot for each voter living here, no more, and no less.

Thank you for fixing what you can fix. It matters. A hell of a lot.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:00 AM

28. All we got was the voter's handbook?

"Voter Information Guide and Sample Ballot" it says on the front.

Below that,

"All active registered voters will get a ballot in the mail."

"Ballots will be mailed starting August 16; allow 5-7 days for delivery.

Perhaps it would be good if the OP checks the cover of whatever they received?

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #28)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:08 AM

40. They're official ballots

They say "Official Mail-In Ballot" on the envelope. Inside is a sample ballot, an official ballot, a voter's information guide, a ballot stub with an I Voted sticker, and the yellow return envelope.

Why they put the sample ballot with the official ballot is beyond me. They look identical except for "sample ballot" written vertically in the margins.

Kind of seems like an accident waiting to happen there for people not paying attention.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #40)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:04 PM

44. Fascinating - it looks like some counties jumped the gun & othe are keeping it simple & on schedule.


Weird thing is, in the still anecdotal, non-statistically significant sampling I've found so far (ie, 3; two in SoCal & 1 in the Sierras) it appears to be red counties that sent them out early?

Also, thanks for all the info. This is indeed weird.

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #44)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:47 PM

47. Solano County in North Bay

We're fairly solidly Democratic. 45/21/28 D/R/I. The (D) House representative typically gets ~55%.

But outside of the main three cities, it's pretty rural (I have a vineyard literally 100 ft. from my house). Not a ton of people. So maybe they just processed everything more quickly? Only 240k registered voters here compared to the million each in Contra Costa and Alameda.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #47)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:43 PM

48. Just over a few hills.

And I'd say Solano is solidly Dem indeed.
Registered Voters as of 08/09/2021 Democrat: 128,483 Republican: 58,451
https://www.solanocounty.com/depts/rov/






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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:06 AM

30. 2020 Presidential election I got FIVE ballots all with my name on them and

my brother got ZERO ballots, looks like nothing has improved.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:43 AM

34. Hoo boy, just got 8 California ballots in the mail. Not great.

OMG, a friend in Northern California got 4 ballots, and 2 were for her husband just last week 😳

She's been a widow for over 5 years!!

Only ONE ballot was proper, which was for her. But her husband's name showed up on two of the other ballots and the final ballot had a wrong address on it and her name. It scared her to death, so she called her voter registrar's office, and the woman told her to destroy the 3 unnecessary ballots, throw them away but keep the one for her which was correct, and fill it out and mail as normal. She asked the woman how this happened, and the woman told her that sometimes it happens due to human error, also that more ballots are being mailed out than normal, so that more people can vote from home due to the pandemic. After she talked with the woman, she said she felt better.

Her ballot has been mailed in, AND of course she voted NO on the BOGUS GQP Gavin Newsom recall of course

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:47 AM

35. F*cking DeJoy. He has destroyed USPS.

And he was installed to do JUST THAT. Vote by mail USED TO BE very reliable. DeJoy was installed to ensure that is no longer true. Speaking of which - WHY IS THAT SONOFABITCH STILL THERE?

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #35)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:57 AM

36. Apparently he is there until December.

We canít do anything before that

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:22 AM

41. They aren't just misdelivering in California.

I got three pieces of mail yesterday (SC). Two belonged to a house around the corner. Same number, wrong street. Biden really needs to replace the head of the USPS board with someone who get rid of DeJoy. What's really disgusting is that the current guy is A DEMOCRAT! But, he just loves him some Louis DeJoy--even with DeJoy's self-dealing. Sickening.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:35 PM

46. Isn't this one of the main reasons give for no mail from in ballots?

How long before your post becomes a meme on reasons to disqualify your vote? Or mail in voting?
Couldnít you theoretically mail them all back with ďNoĒ to the recall?
It would then be up to the legitimate voters to prove they hadnít already voted.

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