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[Marius25]

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[jimfields33]

1. Biden was Vice President for 8 years

He knew everything about Afghanistan. He’s brilliant to get us out of there. If we stayed another year or more, the story would end the same.

[Marius25]

6. But why didn't he evacuate us sooner, before the Taliban took over?

The biggest criticism seems to be the mad rush to evacuate at the last second, because the Taliban got to Kabul so fast.

[Scrivener7]

18. Really, dude?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. Oh my fucking god.

Our government has known for YEARS that the Afghan military was shaky.

Biden was saying last month that the Afghan army would stand up to the Taliban, so obviously he had bad intel.

"Bad intel" is one option. A lot of cooks trying to get the best message out is another. Wishful thinking is another. This is not a surprise to people who should know.

Did they orchestrate this to look bad for Biden?

No.

[Shellback Squid]

14. "Did they orchestrate this to look bad for Biden?" your answer.."No", Me.. very cogent argument

wtf? lol

[WhiskeyGrinder]

19. It's all it deserves.

[Demsrule86]

3. No. Even my few rightie family want out of Afghanistan. And foreign policy doesn't win elections

of late.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

4. Trump is simply not capable of that kind of strategic thinking.

Especially not without talking about it endlessly.

[Shellback Squid]

11. when it comes to making people suffer, do not doubt him

[abqtommy]

5. Let's not forget that TFG Admin took its marching orders from sPUTIN. Not that they're not

capable of doing bad all by themselves...

[doc03]

7. All the Taliban had to do is tell Trump how smart he is

and how he is so good looking. He would give them the key to the Pentagon.

[Shellback Squid]

8. Valid consideration, he dropped the Kurds who were our allies, food for thought:

Plan A, if tfg won the election, a slow orderly withdrawal ( trump had already announced our withdrawal)
Plan B, if Biden won then the taliban would rush across the country to take it as quickly as possible.

If the Kurds were still there we would have had more support and where is Eric Prince?

[FakeNoose]

9. No Pompeo was over there a year and a half ago

I'm too lazy to google the date right now, but it happened back before Chump knew he was going to lose the election. Pompeo told the Taliban and the Afghans that the Americans are leaving THIS year, because they (Pompeo and Chump) both believed they would still be in office this year.

This wasn't a devious setup to make Biden (or any other Dem) look bad. This was just mismanagement of everything because Chump and Pompeo were terrible at diplomacy.

[Mr.Bill]

12. Yeah, just imagine anyone in Trump's circle

telling him "Next year when Biden is President..."

[Shellback Squid]

13. chump always suspected he might very well lose the election, even in 2016

well before the call to the Ukraine's president Zelensky

[brush]

10. Wasn't the agreement done in Feb. 2020? trump expected to win...

the election in Nov. 2020 so it was no trap for Biden.

[Voltaire2]

15. Shitler was sure he was going to win.

So that makes your conjecture dubious.

[ProfessorGAC]

16. Of Course Not!

First, they thought they'd win in November. There was nobody for whom to set a trap.
Second, the entire 4 years should provide ample evidence that these drones couldn't assemble a strategic plan with contingencies. Everything was seat of the pants.
Third, troops were coming home at some point & nothing would be different.
They're devious, but not clever enough to set a trap for a new POTUS for an event they thought they'd be running.

[Mad_Machine76]

17. That would imply some degree of intelligence by him

and it would imply that he knew that he was going to lose the election (and he's still claiming he won)