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The way we killed Osama Bin Laden (Original Post) Mr.Bill Aug 2021 OP
We did kinda have to shit on their sovereignty, though n/t JackintheGreen Aug 2021 #1
I'm okay with that. n/t Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #6
Oh, believe me, I am too. Just saying n/t JackintheGreen Aug 2021 #20
So what. They killed him and left. Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2021 #16
Except the reason he left his cave in Afghanistan to Pakistan.. honest.abe Aug 2021 #2
We eventually would have tracked him down Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #4
Are you sure during the time it would take to "eventually" track him down that.. honest.abe Aug 2021 #8
No more than I can be sure someone else Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #9
Except that "someone else" wasnt responsible for 9/11. honest.abe Aug 2021 #10
And it was the last time Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #11
Intelligence certainly helps but that is not always the complete answer. honest.abe Aug 2021 #12
And there might be someone in any one of Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #13
As I said before someone else wasnt responsible for 9/11 honest.abe Aug 2021 #14
Good talking with you. Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #15
He was never in a cave. former9thward Aug 2021 #21
According to most reports he was living in a sophisticated cave complex known as tora bora. honest.abe Aug 2021 #22
Tora Bora occurred after 9/11 when bin Laden was moving to Pakistan. former9thward Aug 2021 #23
Please provide links to your claims. honest.abe Aug 2021 #24
LOL. I was there in 2002. I can't link to that. former9thward Aug 2021 #25
In my perfect world, Bin Laden could have been surgically removed without boots on the ground Brother Buzz Aug 2021 #3
Yes , that's how it should have always been. Especially since he was found in a country JI7 Aug 2021 #5
GWB refused Taliban offer to give Bin Laden to the USA sanatanadharma Aug 2021 #7
He was actually in Pakistan, which was supposed to be our ally FakeNoose Aug 2021 #17
Dubya did not really want to kill OBL. He let OBL escape. keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #18
Lots of truth in that. Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #19
Gotta keep that war machine going. roamer65 Aug 2021 #26
I'm not sure canetoad Aug 2021 #27

honest.abe

(8,649 posts)
2. Except the reason he left his cave in Afghanistan to Pakistan..
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:15 PM
Aug 2021

was because of the US invaded Afghanistan.

Mr.Bill

(24,262 posts)
4. We eventually would have tracked him down
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:19 PM
Aug 2021

whether he went to Pakistan or not. W and Cheney wanted war so lots of money could be made. Their ilk have been profiting from war since WWII. That's really all there is to it.

honest.abe

(8,649 posts)
8. Are you sure during the time it would take to "eventually" track him down that..
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:36 PM
Aug 2021

he would not have planned and trained another batch of terrorists in Afghanistan.

Mr.Bill

(24,262 posts)
11. And it was the last time
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:53 PM
Aug 2021

he or anyone else did anything of that magnitude. The point is we rely on intelligence to keep these things from happening, not invading and occupying entire countries for decades.

honest.abe

(8,649 posts)
12. Intelligence certainly helps but that is not always the complete answer.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:00 PM
Aug 2021

I suspect our intelligence inside Afghanistan was limited. Furthermore this situation required immediate action as Bin laden might have been planning another attack post 9/11.

Mr.Bill

(24,262 posts)
13. And there might be someone in any one of
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:05 PM
Aug 2021

dozens of countries planning one also. Should we invade all of them? The invasion madness has to stop.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
21. He was never in a cave.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:23 PM
Aug 2021

That was a media creation. This is a picture of the remains of his headquarters I took in 2002 outside of Kandahar. bin Laden and crew were a very sophisticated organization with financial contacts around the world. They never lived in caves.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
23. Tora Bora occurred after 9/11 when bin Laden was moving to Pakistan.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:41 PM
Aug 2021

bin Laden knew the U.S. was after him so he certainly was not going to stay in Afghanistan. In fact he may have gone to Pakistan before 9/11. That information is not known or clear to this day. But regardless the Tora Bora area was a short transition area for bin Laden and his leadership as they transitioned to Pakistan. They did not operate from there. Their stronghold during their many years in Afghanistan was Kandahar.

honest.abe

(8,649 posts)
24. Please provide links to your claims.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:43 PM
Aug 2021

As they don’t jive with what I have read about the matter. Thanks.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
25. LOL. I was there in 2002. I can't link to that.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:29 PM
Aug 2021

If you want to read about bin Laden's long stay in Afghanistan then read away. Or not...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

JI7

(89,244 posts)
5. Yes , that's how it should have always been. Especially since he was found in a country
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:21 PM
Aug 2021

that was supposed to be helping us. And I think this was another reason Biden isn't staying in Afghanistan.

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
17. He was actually in Pakistan, which was supposed to be our ally
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:47 PM
Aug 2021

I still don't get why we call Pakistan an ally - but I guess it's beside the point.

Our guys did what had to be done. Our military is still the best in the world, in so many ways. The only problem was the delay in finding Bin Laden. Once he was found, he was a "dead man."


keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
18. Dubya did not really want to kill OBL. He let OBL escape.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:37 PM
Aug 2021

Dubya did not really want to kill OBL. He let OBL escape.

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