Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:17 PM

BlueLucy (1,281 posts)

The squad voted against helping Afghan translators.

The bill that replenishes the resources for the Capitol Police and the National Guard depleted due to the January 6 insurrection also includes funding and resources for a program that assists Afghan translators who helped US and allied forces relocate.

Just so we know what their priorities are.

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The squad voted against helping Afghan translators. (Original post)	BlueLucy	Aug 2021	OP
That would seem to tell us what they are NOT, rather than what they are ...	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#1
I don't want a hide. I will say...	BlueLucy	Aug 2021	#2
It passed by one vote, which I suspect was quite purposeful ...	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#7
Thanks.	elleng	Aug 2021	#9
So are you saying..	BlueLucy	Aug 2021	#18
No, I'm saying they knew what the vote count would be in advance	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#33
Correct. The OP is about this one:	George II	Aug 2021	#53
The initial house vote in May was the vote that passed the House by one vote.	lapucelle	Aug 2021	#88
Thank You	Tommymac	Aug 2021	#82
I think that was a different vote, I think the one in the OP is #250:	George II	Aug 2021	#52
They knew it would pass so it was a symbolic vote	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#11
I'm not at all in agreement with those 9 moderates either.	BlueLucy	Aug 2021	#13
Symbolic for what?	BlueLucy	Aug 2021	#14
Because they wanted time to read the bill	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#20
The bill is 4,840 words, about 10-15 minutes of reading. Floor votes take about an hour these days.	George II	Aug 2021	#57
There is a provision in the bill that requires Capitol Police officers use body-worn cameras.	lapucelle	Aug 2021	#81
Senate bill presented to the house 7-29 @ 3:18 pm	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#85
The only difference in the May House version and the July Senate version returned for the House vote	lapucelle	Aug 2021	#90
How would a person know that w/o reading?	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#91
The same way I did, by looking at it. And I don't have a staff helping me and the advantage	lapucelle	Aug 2021	#96
Why don't you post the entire text of the bill so we all can see how quickly and easily it could be	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#97
I posted a link to the bill. Anyone can read it on the .gov site.	lapucelle	Aug 2021	#101
An amendment shouldn't be introduced and voted on within 57 minutes	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#102
Every Democrat and Independent in the Senate voted "yes" to the amendment.	lapucelle	Aug 2021	#105
Read post 35	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#107
Post 35? This post 35? With this link?	lapucelle	Aug 2021	#108
Ok I got one name wrong but	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#110
Some of the explanation from Omar from the earlier House bill (before the translator $ was added)	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#30
NOT the time to be pulling that bullshit	Skittles	Aug 2021	#44
I'm not a huge 'Squad Fan' to begin with ... not against them but I think they aren't always prudent	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#45
I do not buy this explanation	LetMyPeopleVote	Aug 2021	#47
I don't either.. Ouch there's a tweet on	Cha	Aug 2021	#94
symbolic vote indicating WHAT exactly	Skittles	Aug 2021	#16
See post 30, and post 33 :) nt	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#31
What are you Wagging your finger at?	Cha	Aug 2021	#93
You must examine what else was in that bill and if other bills provided for help to translators.	joetheman	Aug 2021	#59
Who within The Squad?	elleng	Aug 2021	#3
All of them.	BlueLucy	Aug 2021	#6
No, AOC and Rashida Talib voted 'present' not 'no', and the bill PASSED by one vote	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#8
THANK YOU!	elleng	Aug 2021	#10
OK so those two voted present.	BlueLucy	Aug 2021	#12
This message was self-deleted by its author	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#21
You forget	iemanja	Aug 2021	#49
It passed 416-11	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#17
Okay, my bad. Point remains the same ... symbolic votes are symbolic votes :) nt	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#22
I understand	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#25
Truth is always good!!! (nt)	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#27
Their priorities are...	luv2fly	Aug 2021	#4
whatever works for ya...	stillcool	Aug 2021	#5
What does "replenish the resources for the Capitol Police" mean? I know back in March they	WhiskeyGrinder	Aug 2021	#15
The "funny " part is no one knew at the time they voted	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#24
they also voted to expand the visa program for refugees from Afghanistan	fishwax	Aug 2021	#19
We're dealing with a country of 330 million people and some people's lives....	George II	Aug 2021	#55
their nay votes had no sonsequence on those 330 million or any lives	fishwax	Aug 2021	#61
The record isn't distorted. They voted against it along with 5 republicans. All others who voted...	George II	Aug 2021	#62
the claim that they don't care about Afghan refugees is a distortion	fishwax	Aug 2021	#63
Their vote indicated the way they felt about the bill. 213 Democrats voted for it.	George II	Aug 2021	#65
of course it did, but the bill was about more than this single issue	fishwax	Aug 2021	#68
I direct my "ire" toward those who engage in, as you put it, "games of Divide the Democrats"...	George II	Aug 2021	#71
keep attacking and dividing all you want, George II -- as I said, I can't stop you	fishwax	Aug 2021	#73
Keep attacking me all you want, I support the policies of my President and my Democratic Party.	George II	Aug 2021	#74
As do I	fishwax	Aug 2021	#75
So then why are you going after me?	George II	Aug 2021	#77
I'm just pointing out that I don't think attacking democrats is good for the democratic cause	fishwax	Aug 2021	#78
Perhaps you should be addressing your displeasure to other Democrats who are attacking Democrats....	George II	Aug 2021	#79
That doesn't make any sense	fishwax	Aug 2021	#80
It was prompted by them voting against the position of President Biden and the Democratic Party....	George II	Aug 2021	#84
K & R They proudly stood their ground & now they proudly own their vote.	Budi	Aug 2021	#23
It's a bill meant to support the Capitol Police. It should do just that...	Lancero	Aug 2021	#26
A lot of times that is the only way to get things passed.	BlueLucy	Aug 2021	#28
Agree! (nt)	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#29
Why Bernie Sanders said, "Sometimes in a large bill you have to vote for things you don't like."	betsuni	Aug 2021	#38
It passed 416-11	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#48
Did the bill pass?	Bettie	Aug 2021	#32
+1	luv2fly	Aug 2021	#34
Post removed	Post removed	Aug 2021	#37
Look, I absolutely HATE the 'Defund the Police' nonsense ...	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#39
So, when the "problem solvers" vote no on infrastructure	Bettie	Aug 2021	#40
I don't think I've ever seen that reason:	George II	Aug 2021	#56
+1	leftstreet	Aug 2021	#86
Because they should have voted for it.	marie999	Aug 2021	#104
Correct. Here is the source	question everything	Aug 2021	#35
Still totally symbolic and their issue was NOT with the Afghani Visas, so the OP premise is untrue	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#36
They disagreed with the bill, that's why they voted "Nay". All other Democrats voted "Yea".	George II	Aug 2021	#64
AFAIC, all ***** ***s	Rustyeye77	Aug 2021	#41
This message was self-deleted by its author	BannonsLiver	Aug 2021	#43
Nice divisive post !!!	alittlelark	Aug 2021	#42
What do you mean by "Obscure law making"? 416 Representatives didn't feel it was obscure.	George II	Aug 2021	#54
The OP is Not the one who is being "Divisive"..	Cha	Aug 2021	#95
Never forget how they voted.	LetMyPeopleVote	Aug 2021	#46
I haven't forgotten. I'll never forget.	NurseJackie	Aug 2021	#69
This is why the progressives will never gain traction.	AngryOldDem	Aug 2021	#83
No worries.. I Won't "Forget". TY Rt	Cha	Aug 2021	#89
what reasons did they give?	iemanja	Aug 2021	#50
I think people are mixing up two votes. The vote was #250:	George II	Aug 2021	#51
And why would they vote against	treestar	Aug 2021	#58
They have their own private security.	George II	Aug 2021	#60
That was Cori Bush ...	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#66
AOC does too, and possibly others, but they're less visible (I'm not poring over their FEC filings)	George II	Aug 2021	#67
This was not the police force, after 1/6, to take that stand against	treestar	Aug 2021	#112
Indeed, I find the Squad to be rather imprudent a sizable % of the time (nt)	Hugh_Lebowski	Aug 2021	#113
Post Manchin's priorities	malaise	Aug 2021	#70
+1	Celerity	Aug 2021	#111
FWIW: Here is their joint statement about their vote.	SYFROYH	Aug 2021	#72
You're using this moment to play Divide the Democrats?	Sympthsical	Aug 2021	#76
Pelosi voted yes for all the military $$ Trump wanted	leftstreet	Aug 2021	#87
The squad is a frequent target for a group of du ers	questionseverything	Aug 2021	#92
I checked "All of the above" n/t	Sympthsical	Aug 2021	#99
+1	leftstreet	Aug 2021	#100
Because people believe every district needs milquetoasts who don't advocate socialized medicine.	BradAllison	Aug 2021	#106
+1	Celerity	Aug 2021	#109
Thankfully We have Dems who DO Vote	Cha	Aug 2021	#98
Oh and Thank Goodness Shontel Brown WON!	Cha	Aug 2021	#103

Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:20 PM

Hugh_Lebowski (27,691 posts)

1. That would seem to tell us what they are NOT, rather than what they are ...

Perhaps you could elucidate those priorities, since you're bringing it up?

The squad voted against helping Afghan translators.

1. That would seem to tell us what they are NOT, rather than what they are ...

2. I don't want a hide. I will say...

7. It passed by one vote, which I suspect was quite purposeful ...

9. Thanks.

18. So are you saying..

33. No, I'm saying they knew what the vote count would be in advance

53. Correct. The OP is about this one:

88. The initial house vote in May was the vote that passed the House by one vote.

82. Thank You

52. I think that was a different vote, I think the one in the OP is #250:

11. They knew it would pass so it was a symbolic vote

13. I'm not at all in agreement with those 9 moderates either.

14. Symbolic for what?

20. Because they wanted time to read the bill

57. The bill is 4,840 words, about 10-15 minutes of reading. Floor votes take about an hour these days.

81. There is a provision in the bill that requires Capitol Police officers use body-worn cameras.

85. Senate bill presented to the house 7-29 @ 3:18 pm

90. The only difference in the May House version and the July Senate version returned for the House vote

91. How would a person know that w/o reading?

96. The same way I did, by looking at it. And I don't have a staff helping me and the advantage

97. Why don't you post the entire text of the bill so we all can see how quickly and easily it could be

101. I posted a link to the bill. Anyone can read it on the .gov site.

102. An amendment shouldn't be introduced and voted on within 57 minutes

105. Every Democrat and Independent in the Senate voted "yes" to the amendment.

107. Read post 35

108. Post 35? This post 35? With this link?

110. Ok I got one name wrong but

30. Some of the explanation from Omar from the earlier House bill (before the translator $ was added)

44. NOT the time to be pulling that bullshit

45. I'm not a huge 'Squad Fan' to begin with ... not against them but I think they aren't always prudent

47. I do not buy this explanation

94. I don't either.. Ouch there's a tweet on

16. symbolic vote indicating WHAT exactly

31. See post 30, and post 33 :) nt

93. What are you Wagging your finger at?

59. You must examine what else was in that bill and if other bills provided for help to translators.

3. Who within The Squad?

6. All of them.

8. No, AOC and Rashida Talib voted 'present' not 'no', and the bill PASSED by one vote

10. THANK YOU!

12. OK so those two voted present.

49. You forget

17. It passed 416-11

22. Okay, my bad. Point remains the same ... symbolic votes are symbolic votes :) nt

25. I understand

27. Truth is always good!!! (nt)

4. Their priorities are...

5. whatever works for ya...

15. What does "replenish the resources for the Capitol Police" mean? I know back in March they

24. The "funny " part is no one knew at the time they voted

19. they also voted to expand the visa program for refugees from Afghanistan

55. We're dealing with a country of 330 million people and some people's lives....

61. their nay votes had no sonsequence on those 330 million or any lives

62. The record isn't distorted. They voted against it along with 5 republicans. All others who voted...

63. the claim that they don't care about Afghan refugees is a distortion

65. Their vote indicated the way they felt about the bill. 213 Democrats voted for it.

68. of course it did, but the bill was about more than this single issue

71. I direct my "ire" toward those who engage in, as you put it, "games of Divide the Democrats"...

73. keep attacking and dividing all you want, George II -- as I said, I can't stop you

74. Keep attacking me all you want, I support the policies of my President and my Democratic Party.

75. As do I

77. So then why are you going after me?

78. I'm just pointing out that I don't think attacking democrats is good for the democratic cause

79. Perhaps you should be addressing your displeasure to other Democrats who are attacking Democrats....

80. That doesn't make any sense

84. It was prompted by them voting against the position of President Biden and the Democratic Party....

23. K & R They proudly stood their ground & now they proudly own their vote.

26. It's a bill meant to support the Capitol Police. It should do just that...

28. A lot of times that is the only way to get things passed.

29. Agree! (nt)

38. Why Bernie Sanders said, "Sometimes in a large bill you have to vote for things you don't like."

48. It passed 416-11

32. Did the bill pass?

34. +1

39. Look, I absolutely HATE the 'Defund the Police' nonsense ...

40. So, when the "problem solvers" vote no on infrastructure

56. I don't think I've ever seen that reason:

86. +1

104. Because they should have voted for it.

41. AFAIC, all *** *s

76. You're using this moment to play Divide the Democrats?