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(9,238 posts)Such a difficult situation and he nailed it.
Ellipsis
(9,454 posts)Chainfire
(17,757 posts)shotten99
(691 posts)Accountability, empathy, common sense and vision.
XanaDUer2
(15,772 posts)Big Blue Marble
(5,691 posts)He was speaking to the American People.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)rurallib
(64,688 posts)nolabear
(43,850 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)He made his case superbly.
meadowlander
(5,133 posts)If you're going to get slammed no matter what you do, get slammed for doing the right thing.
highplainsdem
(62,135 posts)Celerity
(54,405 posts)Phentex
(16,709 posts)one that we know participates in briefings and making decisions. One that reads. One that speaks intelligently with purpose and understanding. One that is actually trying to run a country!!!!
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)mcar
(46,055 posts)their take is atrocious.

(I'll leave you alone as I spread some on my hands
rockfordfile
(8,742 posts)Paper Roses
(7,632 posts)Never should have been there in the first place. When will we as a country and government come to realize that our obligation is to the citizens of the United States and not the policemen of the world?
Talitha
(7,986 posts)PatSeg
(53,214 posts)No nuance or political double talk.
usaf-vet
(7,811 posts)45 would have sounded like a whining grade school brat. Me, me, me, I made it possible with my great ah-Brain and deal-making skills...the best ah-deal making skills no one but me.
46 WE did all WE could for nearly 20 years. The Afghan government failed to take responsibility. WE will no longer send our young men and women to fight and die in Afghanistan. WE should have withdrawn years ago.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)I love knowing that the nation can see the difference between a competent, wise Democratic president and the Republican fake.
Joe Biden: Im president of the United States of America, and the buck stops with me.
Donald Trump: "I don't take responsibility at all."
slumcamper
(1,787 posts)This debacle is yet another extension of a longstanding ideological flaw underlying US foreign policy for at least 120 yearsthe egotistical, nationalistic faith in American Exceptionalism," exemplified in the Roosevelt Corollary in the Western Hemisphere (which we messed up badly), and which became global in its scope during the course of the 20th century.
The artifact of this nationalistic faith is that we can impose democracyor spread its blessings(and capitalism incidentally, which is the larger motive) to places we have an interest in. This is imperialism 2.0. (or perhaps we never actually made a break from 1.0).
Many wonder who is to blame. DU friends aside, the collective of our citizenry is to blame. As a result of apathy, ignorance, narcissism and preoccupation with selfish self-interest, We the People, collectively speaking, have brought us to this this moment. Countless tens of thousands of policymakers, staffers, and voters have whistled past the graveyard of failed foreign policy for over a century, and past one failure, another, and another. Rah-rah! At this moment it seems that many are more quickly prone to knee-jerk flag-waving and chants of USA! USA! than taking a good, deep look in the historical mirror and contemplating the lessons of the mistakes of the past. To do so would require some mental effort and, if honest, humility, and that would be an affront to today's brand of patriot. (e.g., state Taliban-esque laws forbidding the teaching of critical theory in US history classrooms).
Now we arrive at an ignominious departure from yet another folly; if we are fortunate it will constitute a break with the past.
Ignominious: deserving or causing public disgrace or shame. Societally speaking, are we even capable of feeling it? Or are we too coopted by forces of anger, deception, and misinformation, given to extreme self-interest and wrapped in stars and stripes to feel anything?
This consequential moment may test us; it should. Perhaps we will learn and emerge stronger, wiser, and betterwith a sense of humility? It is a moment of reckoning.