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That speech was phenomenal. (Original Post) DanTex Aug 2021 OP
It was. honest.abe Aug 2021 #1
It was. Ellipsis Aug 2021 #2
He said what needed to be said, and I agree with him 100%. Chainfire Aug 2021 #3
I'm proud of Biden shotten99 Aug 2021 #4
I agree XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #5
It was. Big Blue Marble Aug 2021 #6
✔️ blm Aug 2021 #7
Outstanding speech by my President. (nt) Paladin Aug 2021 #8
I agree - he took on the whiners straight on rurallib Aug 2021 #9
Yes. I'm really sad but here we are. He did a great job with a miserable situation. nolabear Aug 2021 #10
Best I have heard in a long while. AngryOldDem Aug 2021 #11
What you learn in 50 years of public service: meadowlander Aug 2021 #12
I agree. highplainsdem Aug 2021 #13
yes, yes it was Celerity Aug 2021 #14
It's a bit strange to have an actual President... Phentex Aug 2021 #15
I was so proud of him. SharonClark Aug 2021 #16
Yes Ohioboy Aug 2021 #17
I'm wearing my fingers out challenging MSM on Twitter mcar Aug 2021 #18
... BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #22
true rockfordfile Aug 2021 #19
Agree with our President 100%. Leaving is long overdue but being there is not his fault. Paper Roses Aug 2021 #20
Agreed - phenomenal speech! Talitha Aug 2021 #21
Yes, clear and concise PatSeg Aug 2021 #23
Great Speech President Biden. As I listen to it I thought HOW DIFFERENT! Different between 45 and 46 usaf-vet Aug 2021 #24
Great, yes. Every speech he gives reflects the comparison you show here. ancianita Aug 2021 #25
Good speech under circumstances...but I yearn for harder truths. slumcamper Aug 2021 #26
Absolutely. That speech was A+++ WarGamer Aug 2021 #27

meadowlander

(5,133 posts)
12. What you learn in 50 years of public service:
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 04:33 PM
Aug 2021

If you're going to get slammed no matter what you do, get slammed for doing the right thing.

Phentex

(16,709 posts)
15. It's a bit strange to have an actual President...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 04:54 PM
Aug 2021

one that we know participates in briefings and making decisions. One that reads. One that speaks intelligently with purpose and understanding. One that is actually trying to run a country!!!!

Paper Roses

(7,632 posts)
20. Agree with our President 100%. Leaving is long overdue but being there is not his fault.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:50 PM
Aug 2021

Never should have been there in the first place. When will we as a country and government come to realize that our obligation is to the citizens of the United States and not the policemen of the world?

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
24. Great Speech President Biden. As I listen to it I thought HOW DIFFERENT! Different between 45 and 46
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:20 PM
Aug 2021

45 would have sounded like a whining grade school brat. Me, me, me, I made it possible with my great ah-Brain and deal-making skills...the best ah-deal making skills no one but me.

46 WE did all WE could for nearly 20 years. The Afghan government failed to take responsibility. WE will no longer send our young men and women to fight and die in Afghanistan. WE should have withdrawn years ago.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
25. Great, yes. Every speech he gives reflects the comparison you show here.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:01 PM
Aug 2021

I love knowing that the nation can see the difference between a competent, wise Democratic president and the Republican fake.

Joe Biden: “I’m president of the United States of America, and the buck stops with me.

Donald Trump: "I don't take responsibility at all."

slumcamper

(1,787 posts)
26. Good speech under circumstances...but I yearn for harder truths.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:20 PM
Aug 2021

This debacle is yet another extension of a longstanding ideological flaw underlying US foreign policy for at least 120 years—the egotistical, nationalistic faith in “American Exceptionalism," exemplified in the Roosevelt Corollary in the Western Hemisphere (which we messed up badly), and which became global in its scope during the course of the 20th century.

The artifact of this nationalistic faith is that we can impose democracy—or “spread its blessings”—(and capitalism incidentally, which is the larger motive) to places we have an “interest” in. This is imperialism 2.0. (or perhaps we never actually made a break from 1.0).

Many wonder who is to blame. DU friends aside, the collective of our citizenry is to blame. As a result of apathy, ignorance, narcissism and preoccupation with selfish self-interest, We the People, collectively speaking, have brought us to this this moment. Countless tens of thousands of policymakers, staffers, and voters have whistled past the graveyard of failed foreign policy for over a century, and past one failure, another, and another. Rah-rah! At this moment it seems that many are more quickly prone to knee-jerk flag-waving and chants of “USA! USA!” than taking a good, deep look in the historical mirror and contemplating the lessons of the mistakes of the past. To do so would require some mental effort and, if honest, humility, and that would be an affront to today's brand of “patriot.” (e.g., state Taliban-esque laws forbidding the teaching of critical theory in US history classrooms).

Now we arrive at an ignominious departure from yet another folly; if we are fortunate it will constitute a break with the past.

Ignominious: deserving or causing public disgrace or shame. Societally speaking, are we even capable of feeling it? Or are we too coopted by forces of anger, deception, and misinformation, given to extreme self-interest and wrapped in stars and stripes to feel anything?

This consequential moment may test us; it should. Perhaps we will learn and emerge stronger, wiser, and better—with a sense of humility? It is a moment of reckoning.


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