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HRC on Afghanistan from May 2021. (Original Post) Mosby Aug 2021 OP
K&R betsuni Aug 2021 #1
Spot on, as always, niyad Aug 2021 #2
+1,000! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #3
With all due respect to Madame Secretatry. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #4
Yep relayerbob Aug 2021 #19
If you're not negotiating from a position of strength or parity you have already lost. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #22
She knew this. LiberatedUSA Aug 2021 #5
Absolutely padah513 Aug 2021 #8
K&R brer cat Aug 2021 #6
Should have turned withdrawal preparation over to Clinton to make it work. Hoyt Aug 2021 #7
Hillary would have been 100 times more effective President KS Toronado Aug 2021 #9
She is pretty much always on point. boston bean Aug 2021 #10
Civil War will be years down the road madville Aug 2021 #11
We are so stupid seta1950 Aug 2021 #12
Thanks James Comey Jon King Aug 2021 #13
He dominated that election from start to finish. StevieM Aug 2021 #16
Our nation really fucked up helping Trump into office. Perhaps the worst mistake in recent history triron Aug 2021 #14
Certainly the worst mistake in my lifetime. Lonestarblue Aug 2021 #17
We haven't recovered from Reagan. LisaM Aug 2021 #20
HRC pays attention. Javaman Aug 2021 #15
Um.. relayerbob Aug 2021 #18
The woman is brilliant. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #21
Fuck tRump and his stolen 'victory' in 2016 Blue Owl Aug 2021 #23

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
4. With all due respect to Madame Secretatry.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:12 AM
Aug 2021

Many of us knew the peace talks like the Paris Peace Talks were a figleaf for an American retreat with all the attendant consequences.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
5. She knew this.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:15 AM
Aug 2021

She knew the Supreme Court was at stake.

She knew exactly what kind of individual TFG was.

Sure sounds like we would have benefited from having a President with that kind of foresight.

padah513

(2,496 posts)
8. Absolutely
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:05 AM
Aug 2021

Imagine just how different the last administration would have been if it were hers. Likely still would be.

KS Toronado

(17,158 posts)
9. Hillary would have been 100 times more effective President
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:07 AM
Aug 2021

than the orange one who used Putin's help to steal the election from her.

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
10. She is pretty much always on point.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:10 AM
Aug 2021

Would have made a great president. But America wanted a bloated, insane, corrupt pos.

madville

(7,404 posts)
11. Civil War will be years down the road
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 AM
Aug 2021

If the Taliban fractures or something more evil appears. It's evident that no one there that's better than the Taliban has the will to fight them.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
13. Thanks James Comey
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:36 AM
Aug 2021

How different things would have been had he not sent that letter about the emails.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
16. He dominated that election from start to finish.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:49 AM
Aug 2021

From opening an investigation of her to begin with, to holding that press conference in July where he smeared her, to sending those letters right before the election.

Had it not been for Comey, HRC would have destroyed Trump.

triron

(21,984 posts)
14. Our nation really fucked up helping Trump into office. Perhaps the worst mistake in recent history
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:44 AM
Aug 2021

if not the entire history of out government.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
17. Certainly the worst mistake in my lifetime.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:56 AM
Aug 2021

We will be decades recovering from Trump, primarily because Republicans are carrying on his legacy of lying, corruption, cheating, violence, and insurrection. They have seen a pathway to permanent rule through those tactics, and they are dedicated to using them all. Forget democracy—they’re only interested in their own power.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
20. We haven't recovered from Reagan.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:18 PM
Aug 2021

This whole Afghanistan mess can be traced back to Reagan's policies.

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
15. HRC pays attention.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:49 AM
Aug 2021

anyone doing the same saw this coming.

but instead we got the orange asshole and his stupidity.

relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
18. Um..
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:10 PM
Aug 2021

#1 and #2 was obvious to everyone. It was only a matter of how fast. That Trump opened the door for the Taliban to negotiate a pre-surrender by the Afghan gov't only hastened the matter. #3 - not likely any time soon. #4 is clearly a direct consequence of #1 and #2.

I love HRC, but this is just preaching to the choir

And, with Joe in office, we aren't going to be there another 20 years

Blue Owl

(50,291 posts)
23. Fuck tRump and his stolen 'victory' in 2016
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:23 AM
Aug 2021

Let us remember that HRC got over 3 million more popular votes than Mr. Shitpants.

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