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I don't get it! If for thousands of years the women of Afghanistan existed under subordination, (Original Post) cornball 24 Aug 2021 OP
Afghani men and women Pantagruel Aug 2021 #1
Sounds about right. Religion was invented to control the masses onetexan Aug 2021 #2
And more specifically... jcgoldie Aug 2021 #3
A Sound Point, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2021 #4
Ugh. Treefrog Aug 2021 #12
Because it did... brooklynite Aug 2021 #5
For thousands of years ALL women existed under subordination. And very few men wanted Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #6
+a brazillion! nt tblue37 Aug 2021 #8
Your point is *the* point too often ignored. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #9
It wasn't always that way Raine Aug 2021 #7
To paraphrase John and Yoko: "women are the (slaves) of the world". Fer sure. abqtommy Aug 2021 #10
Because they have daughters, sisters, mothers and wives. Because they love. applegrove Aug 2021 #11
 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
1. Afghani men and women
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:05 PM
Aug 2021

had accepted the "subordination" under cover of the real evil-RELIGION.
Organized RELIGION of every stripe is mostly just cover for power grabs.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
5. Because it did...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:27 PM
Aug 2021

Urban Afghanistan (I’m and around Kabul) was fairly progressive before the Taliban. Women didn’t wear burkas (or even hijabs) they worked, went to college; went outside for n their own, etc.

Scrivener7

(52,360 posts)
6. For thousands of years ALL women existed under subordination. And very few men wanted
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:03 PM
Aug 2021

the situation to change. And women have fought tooth and nail for a hundred years at least to make the change to where we are now.

And many American men would absolutely love it if the situation reverted tomorrow. Many more than would admit it. Many more than we would like to think.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Your point is *the* point too often ignored.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:29 PM
Aug 2021

We (our collective culture) have been rending our garments in true hipster fashion since last week over the current plight of the women in Afghanistan... but at the expense of women's concerns, treatment, and history everywhere else.

The newfound outrage at the Afghani misogyny we've seen since Biden's announcement seems little more than a stage prop used only when doing so supports some other cause. I can remember the collective conversations regarding Steubinville or Elliot Rogers minimizing the same misogyny as anything other than misogyny.

So I can't do anything other than agree with you, and hold a lot og skepticism for so many people who are only now expressing concern about the treatment of women.

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