Condi comes out on Afghanistan

[JohnSJ]

“ In an op-ed for the Washington Post, former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice argued that President Joe Biden's characterization of the Afghan fighters is "unfair."

"No — they didn't choose the Taliban," she wrote. "They fought and died alongside us, helping us degrade al-Qaeda. Working with the Afghans and our allies, we gained time to build a counterterrorism presence around the world and a counterterrorism apparatus at home that has kept us safe. In the end, the Afghans couldn't hold the country without our airpower and our support. It is not surprising that Afghan security forces lost the will to fight, when the Taliban warned that the United States was deserting them and that those who resisted would see their families killed."

She went on to say that the Afghan people tried to create a modern society and build a fledgling democracy with elected leaders.”

https://www.rawstory.com/condi-rice-argues-more-war/

[rickford66]

1. Doesn't she have an oil tanker the christen ?

[choie]

20. or some shoes to buy?

[DiverDave]

2. Who?

Screw her. She was part of the whole mess.

[Ocelot II]

3. Of all the people in the world whose opinion on any aspect of foreign policy should be ignored,

she's pretty close to the top of the list. She and Cheney and Rumsfeld caused that mess in the first place and they all need to STFU forever.

[2naSalit]

24. +1

[oasis]

4. After all these years she has the nerve to crawl out from under her rock.

[leftstreet]

22. This seems orchestrated

Hmm, all the familiar neocons suddenly can't wait to get the band back together

I suspect this has more to do with wresting their beloved GOP away from Trump and his humpers, than any real interest in what's happening in Afghanistan

[oasis]

25. Maybe so, but don't expect "Madam Vapid" to say much more about it.

She's totally incapable of keeping her stories straight.

[2naSalit]

26. +1

She's going to lose money when the war machine shuts down and we stop using oil.

[leftstreet]

29. lol Remember when they named an oil tanker after her?

I think they renamed it, but still such bitter tears when the thing no longer has the fuel to run

[JohnSJ]

5. Hey Condi, who ignored the warnings about 9/11. Who attacked Iraq based on a lie and

destabilized the balance of power and the entire Middle East

If I never hear another word from someone from the bush administration, it will be too soon

[regnaD kciN]

7. Uh, Condi...

"It is not surprising that Afghan security forces lost the will to fight, when the Taliban warned that the United States was deserting them and that those who resisted would see their families killed."

And when did that happen? When the U.S. signed a crap withdrawal agreement in 2020, then pulled out all but a skeleton crew of troops before 1/20/21. Can you remind us who was president at that time?

[Baked Potato]

8. I yawn in her general direction. Her Party is corrupt to the bone. Nt

[Haggard Celine]

10. OFFS!

She and Bolton and the rest of the neocons would have us over there forever. It should have ended a long fucking time ago, back when she was still SoS. Much of this is her fault; she's more to blame for this shit than Joe Biden, who simply had the guts to stop this gravy train for the MIC.

[DURHAM D]

11. You are the one who let Osama run over the border.

screw you

[DinahMoeHum]

13. No one with a last name of Bush, Cheney or Rice. . .

. . .should open their big fat yappers about Afghanistan right now, unless they were on record of having opposed it.

[Johonny]

14. "In the end, the Afghans couldn't hold the country without our airpower and our support."

If they can't hold their country against themselves without us fighting for them one wonders who really is a Afghan in this equation. Perhaps she just has a simplistic view of the people involved in this situation. In 20 years the right still doesn't know the player in the Afghanistan region.

[BeckyDem]

15. Do not speak of unfair.

Just go away, for good.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

16. I mean, I don't really blame the frontline soldiers.

Would you fight for a corrupt government and incompetent commanders when defeat is assured? I blame the leadership that failed to give these soldiers something to really fight for.

[Lovie777]

17. What about voting rights? . ..

your fucked up party don't want Black people to vote. Oh that's right, you don't care.

STFU

[Carlitos Brigante]

21. "Us"? Get the fuck out of here, "us". Your ass was sitting

comfortably, while sending 1000s to die for your bullshit and your stock portfolio.

[oasis]

28. Let's see how many Afgan refugees she takes under her roof. nt

[UpInArms]

23. Blow me, you sow

[msongs]

27. say is colin powell still looking for the WMDs? nt

[2naSalit]

30. She's goinng to lose a lot of $$$

With the war machine shutting down and later when we stop using oil.

[madaboutharry]

31. Still waiting for the mushroom cloud from Iraq.

She is a liar and a fraud.

These neocons come out of the woodwork with their opinion pieces and morning show interviews talking like it’s 1999.

Their audience is small.

[milestogo]

32. Why isn't she eating some yellow cake in Niger?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

33. Condoleezza Rice argues U.S. could have followed South Korea strategy in Afghanistan

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice thinks the United States needed "more time" in Afghanistan to ensure stability "and consolidate our gains against terrorism" even if 20 years felt too long to maintain a military presence.

"We have understood this before," Rice wrote in a Washington Post op-ed published Tuesday. "Technically, our longest war is not Afghanistan: It is Korea."

The Korean war ended in a stalemate, and seventy years later there are still more than 20,000 American troops in South Korea, Rice notes. While accepting that "even the sophisticated South Korean army cannot deter" North Korea on its own, Washington and Seoul were able to achieve, after several decades, "a stable equilibrium on the Korean Peninsula, a valuable South Korean ally, and a strong presence in the Indo-Pacific."

So, Rice pondered, why couldn't the same strategy be applied to Afghanistan? "Afghanistan is not South Korea," she writes. "But we might have achieved a reasonable outcome with a far smaller commitment. More time for Afghans didn't have to entail combat troops, just a core American presence for training, air support, and intelligence." Read Rice's full op-ed at The Washington Post.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/condoleezza-rice-argues-u-could-214002319.html

[soryang]

36. More bombs were dropped on Korea by the US

during the Korean War than in the entire Pacific theater during WWII. I don't know where she gets the idea the Korean situation is stable. It isn't.

[underpants]

34. National Security Advisor on 9/11 speaks

Thanks for the input.

[oasis]

37. "Planes, as weapons...who'da thunk it?"

That's a brief summary of Condi's testimony before the 9/11 Commission.

[stonecutter357]

35. fuck the war hawks !

[Celerity]

40. Plenty of them on here too

Keyboard commandos gobbing on about nuking Russia and China over Crimea and Taiwan, respectively.

[rockfordfile]

38. Wait a minute, how come she's not in jail?

[maxsolomon]

39. She's not 100% wrong. Taliban terror had an impact on their will.

It was a rational decision to melt away and avoid a bloodbath. It's what Saddam's Army did.

[HAB911]

41. War criminal speaks? War criminal should STFU