Wed Aug 18, 2021, 03:39 PM
ProfessorPlum (11,173 posts)
A shout out and thank you to Biden for ending the farce that was the US occupation of Afghanistan
As is obvious, we built exactly nothing there, especially in the decade since our actual purpose for invading, "to get Bin Laden", was completed. Biden had the courage to end this money-sucking fraud, that would have had the same outcome (or possibly worse) no matter when it ended.
Afghanistan is ungovernable, and we are now the 4th or 5th occupying force to find that out, and this was predictable. All I hear about is crying on the BBC and on the news about this "disaster" but this was a con being run on our tax coffers by the military industrial complex, it was always a disaster, and it is better to have it finally ended. I wish Trump, Obama, or Bush would have had the guts to end it years earlier.
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ProfessorPlum | Aug 2021 | OP |
pwb | Aug 2021 | #1 | |
zipplewrath | Aug 2021 | #2 | |
redstatebluegirl | Aug 2021 | #3 | |
sarisataka | Aug 2021 | #6 | |
FalloutShelter | Aug 2021 | #4 | |
multigraincracker | Aug 2021 | #5 | |
Irish_Dem | Aug 2021 | #7 | |
Mr.Bill | Aug 2021 | #13 | |
Irish_Dem | Aug 2021 | #31 | |
crickets | Aug 2021 | #35 | |
Mopar151 | Aug 2021 | #14 | |
Irish_Dem | Aug 2021 | #32 | |
lindysalsagal | Aug 2021 | #8 | |
SergeStorms | Aug 2021 | #17 | |
BComplex | Aug 2021 | #9 | |
LetMyPeopleVote | Aug 2021 | #10 | |
paleotn | Aug 2021 | #11 | |
Jon King | Aug 2021 | #12 | |
AZLD4Candidate | Aug 2021 | #18 | |
rockfordfile | Aug 2021 | #26 | |
yaesu | Aug 2021 | #15 | |
AZLD4Candidate | Aug 2021 | #20 | |
True Blue American | Aug 2021 | #21 | |
SergeStorms | Aug 2021 | #16 | |
AlexSFCA | Aug 2021 | #19 | |
NH Ethylene | Aug 2021 | #23 | |
tavernier | Aug 2021 | #22 | |
Demsrule86 | Aug 2021 | #24 | |
Maru Kitteh | Aug 2021 | #25 | |
MrModerate | Aug 2021 | #27 | |
Mr.Bill | Aug 2021 | #33 | |
monkeyman1 | Aug 2021 | #28 | |
ancianita | Aug 2021 | #29 | |
pwb | Aug 2021 | #30 | |
jalan48 | Aug 2021 | #34 |
Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 03:43 PM
pwb (9,423 posts)
1. Yes, I have been very happy we are out of there
finally. After 20 years they ended up giving us the finger and laughing with all the weapons we left them.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 03:48 PM
zipplewrath (16,530 posts)
2. Obama shoulda listened to Biden
2009, Biden was warning of these, Obama didn't listen.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 03:49 PM
redstatebluegirl (12,114 posts)
3. I am also happy we are out of there.
Americans are hell bent on "winning" these wars that cannot be won. That war (occupation) could not be won in a 100 years of fighting.
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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #3)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 04:08 PM
sarisataka (15,219 posts)
6. One strategic mistake often made,
Which Biden seems to have picked up on, is a war cannot be "won" until you define what "winning" means.
"Winning" must also be achievable so a war on "drugs" or "terror" is simply ridiculous. |
Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 03:57 PM
FalloutShelter (9,851 posts)
4. Yep!
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 04:06 PM
multigraincracker (29,366 posts)
5. Another 20 years, another trillion dollar and more US deaths
and we would have the same results, period.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 04:22 PM
Irish_Dem (34,003 posts)
7. Joe must have figured out it was a Cluster F.
He pulled the plug. Good on him.
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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #7)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 05:18 PM
Mr.Bill (19,614 posts)
13. He knew it when he was VP.
He also knew it wasn't the VPs jop to under cut what the President was doing.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #13)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 08:30 PM
Irish_Dem (34,003 posts)
31. Yep, my read of the situation exactly.
Many things are becoming more clear.
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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #7)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 05:40 PM
Mopar151 (9,320 posts)
14. Which became a Trump F*** Cluster
Pompeos visit, post election, was the kids of death for our allies "in-country" .
They sold us out, and sold us CHEAP. |
Response to Mopar151 (Reply #14)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 08:32 PM
Irish_Dem (34,003 posts)
32. And no one can do a Cluster F like Trump.
It is one of his specialities.
He took an existing cluster and gave it the Trump treatment. God help us. |
Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 04:24 PM
lindysalsagal (18,506 posts)
8. He's a good, honest man with the best of intentions. I trust him,
We don't deserve him.
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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #8)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 05:47 PM
SergeStorms (18,132 posts)
17. Like we didn't deserve....
Jimmy Carter, either. Even my republican mother said that, and I almost passed out when she did.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 04:38 PM
BComplex (6,974 posts)
9. It was never going to be a cake walk getting out of Afghanistan. Never.
Not as long as one Talibani asshole walks the earth.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 04:59 PM
LetMyPeopleVote (124,469 posts)
10. Raise your hand if your support for Biden is still as strong as it ever was!
Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 05:13 PM
paleotn (15,349 posts)
11. As a general rule
Don’t get involved in a land war in Asia. That would be inconceivable!
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 05:18 PM
Jon King (1,902 posts)
12. 800 Americans die per day from Covid, but, but Afghanistan.
Remind us how many Americans died in Afghanistan today? Yesterday? In the past year?
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Response to Jon King (Reply #12)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:09 PM
AZLD4Candidate (4,206 posts)
18. Unwarranted death is still death, if by a government action in a needless war, or governmental
action failing to take a pandemic seriously.
One is not mutually exclusive from the other. This reply makes me sad. |
Response to Jon King (Reply #12)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:34 PM
rockfordfile (8,579 posts)
26. President Biden and us are dealing with all of that. Climate change is another.
These are all things the right-wing have caused or made worst.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 05:43 PM
yaesu (7,619 posts)
15. The more I see president Biden govern the more he reminds me of FDR, its too bad he has to put
up with the anti-American putin loving republicans.
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Response to yaesu (Reply #15)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:11 PM
AZLD4Candidate (4,206 posts)
20. FDR had to put up with Father Coughlin, Charles Lindbergh, a hostile Supreme Court
and the German American Bund.
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Response to yaesu (Reply #15)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:15 PM
True Blue American (16,578 posts)
21. So true
And I remember FDR!
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 05:45 PM
SergeStorms (18,132 posts)
16. Yes, and if we could see a corresponding....
cut in defense spending that would be wonderful too. I doubt we'll ever see the Pentagon receive a budget cut though. They're pretty much untouchable in our war oriented country.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:09 PM
AlexSFCA (6,081 posts)
19. World class leadership. The president who ended the longest war in the US history.
I predict Times person of the year award and noble peace prize.
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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #19)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:24 PM
NH Ethylene (30,514 posts)
23. That would be awesome - either one.
It took a lot of courage and resolve to take this step. I was afraid he would falter - he is a bit soft-hearted - but he did not.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:23 PM
tavernier (11,192 posts)
22. Joe has been my choice for years.
Good to know I’m such a clever person.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:25 PM
Demsrule86 (65,367 posts)
24. I am thrilled to out of Afghanistan finally.
Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:26 PM
Maru Kitteh (26,233 posts)
25. AGREED! nt
Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:38 PM
MrModerate (9,753 posts)
27. I wonder if the Taliban will find Afghanistan governable. No one else has. n/t
Response to MrModerate (Reply #27)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 09:44 PM
Mr.Bill (19,614 posts)
33. It will revert to tribal rule.
No central government can work there.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:39 PM
monkeyman1 (5,109 posts)
28. jeeze ! another clown in republican shit show !
just seen the 5:00 news & moscow mitch decide to get his 2 cent's in & run joe down ! like he & republican's could have done better ? not ! wish they would put him out to pasture ! even trump can't stand the ol'buzzard ! |
Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:45 PM
ancianita (30,167 posts)
29. Grateful to Joe, who has led the saving of more lives than any U.S. president in history.
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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:47 PM
pwb (9,423 posts)
30. Yes, he did real good.
Real good.
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