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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:45 PM

I Have A Really Stupid Question About The Taliban's Clothes/Garb/Outfits......

Their garb looks heavy and overly warm and all the pictures I see of the Taliban - their clothes look like they were just laundered and clean.

How do they keep their garb clean - given the terrain in Afghanistan? Do they carry around a number of outfits with them? Are their laundromats available for their use?

I said - this is a stupid question but it's something that has bugged me for a long time.

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Reply I Have A Really Stupid Question About The Taliban's Clothes/Garb/Outfits...... (Original post)
global1 Aug 20 OP
Hugh_Lebowski Aug 20 #1
marble falls Aug 20 #7
Hugh_Lebowski Aug 20 #11
Treefrog Aug 20 #14
marble falls Aug 20 #21
BannonsLiver Aug 20 #23
Treefrog Aug 20 #25
muriel_volestrangler Aug 20 #65
Hugh_Lebowski Aug 20 #27
Treefrog Aug 20 #33
BannonsLiver Aug 20 #44
DemocratSinceBirth Aug 20 #12
Treefrog Aug 20 #34
luv2fly Aug 20 #13
BannonsLiver Aug 20 #19
marble falls Aug 20 #24
BannonsLiver Aug 20 #26
luv2fly Aug 20 #28
milestogo Aug 20 #2
Treefrog Aug 20 #38
milestogo Aug 20 #49
SYFROYH Aug 20 #53
dalton99a Aug 20 #3
0rganism Aug 20 #4
marble falls Aug 20 #6
marble falls Aug 20 #5
WhiskeyGrinder Aug 20 #8
RussBLib Aug 20 #15
marble falls Aug 20 #31
smirkymonkey Aug 20 #67
luv2fly Aug 20 #16
marble falls Aug 20 #40
Hugh_Lebowski Aug 20 #18
brush Aug 20 #32
BannonsLiver Aug 20 #35
dalton99a Aug 20 #43
Coventina Aug 20 #56
BannonsLiver Aug 20 #70
leftstreet Aug 20 #46
BannonsLiver Aug 20 #52
smirkymonkey Aug 20 #68
marble falls Aug 20 #37
Hugh_Lebowski Aug 20 #51
brush Aug 20 #20
Hugh_Lebowski Aug 20 #48
global1 Aug 20 #36
brush Aug 20 #50
Elessar Zappa Aug 20 #39
treestar Aug 20 #69
MineralMan Aug 20 #9
Treefrog Aug 20 #17
MineralMan Aug 20 #22
Treefrog Aug 20 #29
MineralMan Aug 20 #41
LeftInTX Aug 20 #74
greenjar_01 Aug 20 #10
crud Aug 20 #30
Treefrog Aug 20 #42
Treefrog Aug 20 #45
doc03 Aug 20 #47
LeftInTX Aug 20 #75
SYFROYH Aug 20 #54
Chellee Aug 20 #55
BannonsLiver Aug 20 #57
Chellee Aug 20 #66
LeftInTX Aug 20 #72
Treefrog Aug 20 #58
global1 Aug 20 #60
Chellee Aug 20 #61
global1 Aug 20 #62
Chellee Aug 20 #63
Act_of_Reparation Aug 20 #59
betsuni Aug 20 #64
LeftInTX Aug 20 #71
JI7 Aug 20 #73
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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:46 PM

1. They enslave women and make them do their laundry is my guess (nt)

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:58 PM

7. Just like we Americans do?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:05 PM

11. We do? nt

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:08 PM

14. Dayum, I'm a woman, and where do I apply to get a laundry person?

Never have I ever done a manís laundry, I might add.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:11 PM

21. The average American does it as much as the average Afghani does it. Don't you see anything ...

... at all racist in your original wisecrack?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #21)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:15 PM

25. Can people stop calling Afghans "Afghani"?

I thought we were supposed to be a well informed group.

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Response to Treefrog (Reply #25)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:42 PM

65. Many dictionaries list "Afghani" as an acceptable name for the people

eg American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language

Afghani adj.
Of or relating to Afghanistan; Afghan.

n.

pl. Afghanis

1.
A native or inhabitant of Afghanistan; an Afghan.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #21)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:16 PM

27. Bullshit, and no, and it was not a wisecrack to begin with ...

The question was SPECIFIC TO THE TALIBAN.

Or I would not have answered as I did.

And they're called Afghans.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #27)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:19 PM

33. I understood what you meant.

And thank you for reiterating the correct term.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:31 PM

44. It was supposed to be a zinger, or something.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:05 PM

12. I do the laundry in my household.

I also buy most of the household goods and groceries.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:20 PM

34. My parents are gone, but my dad enjoyed doing both of those chores.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:06 PM

13. Not this American n/t

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Response to marble falls (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:11 PM

19. Huh?

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:15 PM

24. Do you believe all laundry done in Afghanistan is performed by enslaved women???????

I don't believe women are enslaved to the laundry in the US, either.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #26)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:17 PM

28. +1 n/t

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:49 PM

2. They probably smell horrible.

Maybe there's a ritual for shaking off the dirt.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:21 PM

38. Here's a pro tip.

Donít travel the world.

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Response to Treefrog (Reply #38)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:45 PM

49. I have lived overseas in a country where people did not bathe regularly or use deodorant

I guess I can say I got used to it, but I sure found it unpleasant.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:52 PM

3. Rank is evidently indicated by how many blankets you can carry on your shoulder

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:56 PM

4. I'm pretty sure the clothes are appropriate for the terrain

Much of the country is mountainous and chilly
For warmer situations they probably remove outer layers

Guerilla fighters don't get to carry around a lot of vanity clothes so I'd assume what they do wear is close to optimal for their purposes

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:58 PM

6. Finally, a usable answer.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:57 PM

5. In a million year I'd never think DUers would come up with such bigoted remarks. Sad, sad, sad.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:03 PM

8. Twas ever thus.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:08 PM

15. Bigoted? Enslave women and smell bad?

That's what you call bigoted? Fascinating.

The taliban has a history of, shall we say, not exalting women?

Not every culture bathes and showers the same amount. Westerners, especially Americans, bathe or shower almost every day. That is simply not done in many other countries, and body odor is rather common. Often unpleasant.

Is that being bigoted? I can think of far worse.

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Response to RussBLib (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:18 PM

31. I call that notion bigoted. Mainly because it is. Most statements with an understood 'all ...

... people are", are usually BS.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #31)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:22 PM

67. Things might have changed, but when I studied in Vienna, Austria 30 years ago, we

were told to limit our showers because they didn't like to waste water and didn't bathe as often as we did (we lived with host families). I asked my Austrian "sisters" one day about how often does the average person shower or bathe in Vienna and they told me about once per week, maybe twice a week at the most.

And this is in a modern, first-world country, with kick-ass bathrooms and all kinds of cool spigots coming out of every side of the shower stall. I loved their showers! But you could tell when you were in the Subway or the Strassenbahn that people didn't bathe often because it really smelled.

They might bathe more often these days, but probably still not as much as we do. It is similar in many European countries, so it's not much of a stretch to assume that a third-world country in Central Asia does not practice the same hygiene rituals that we do here in the US either.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:09 PM

16. Almost like saying American men enslave women

To do their laundry, right?

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Response to luv2fly (Reply #16)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:23 PM

40. My point. Thanks.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:10 PM

18. OH FFS, the question was How are The TALIBANS clothes so clean ...

We know they mistreat and enslave women.

Speculating that the TALIBAN are making said women wash their clothes is not a bigoted answer and rather logical if you ask me.

Assuming you're harping about my answer, if not, just ignore me.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:19 PM

32. See post 20

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:20 PM

35. We must be very careful not to be unfair to the Taliban.

Theyíre sensitive and they have feelings, too.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #35)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:26 PM

43. +1. Please do not make fun of the Taliban.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #43)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:25 PM

56. do not taunt happy fun ball!!!

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Response to Coventina (Reply #56)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:39 PM

70. A+ reference

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #35)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:32 PM

46. For sure we shouldn't make jokes

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #46)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:58 PM

52. That's really really offensive



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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #35)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:24 PM

68. *snort*

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:21 PM

37. Why don't you just get to your real point about how filthy you imagine the Taliban are?



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Response to marble falls (Reply #37)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:46 PM

51. I think you're confusing what I said with something someone else said.

Last edited Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:21 PM - Edit history (2)

All I said was I would GUESS that perhaps the TALIBAN's clothes are always so clean because they make the women they subjugate (the latter being a fact we know to be true) keep them clean for them.

I never said the Taliban are 'filthy' or even implied it.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:11 PM

20. Yeah, one doesn't expect to hear such bigotry on a progressive site.

Last edited Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Any army after days/weeks in the field is likely to be a bit ripe. Once they get back to base or a place they can clean up, that's what they do, whether they be American or Afghan Taliban.

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Response to brush (Reply #20)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:37 PM

48. Okay, well I can see how commenting on body smells is uncool, but I didn't do that

I was making an honest answer, specific to the question of how the Taliban's clothes always look clean.

I don't think my answer was bigoted, but I'm not always the best with the rules of PC-dom, I will admit.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:21 PM

36. I Said Nothing About Odors Or Women - I Just Want To Know How They Keep Their Outfits Clean?...nt

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Response to global1 (Reply #36)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:45 PM

50. Cleaning up once out of the field would include clothes too.

People have changes of clothes.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:22 PM

39. How is the question bigoted?

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #39)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:37 PM

69. I agree; the OP clearly said "given the

terrain in Afghanistan" - which is an objective fact that says nothing about the people.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:04 PM

9. That clothing came about over a very long time to suit the conditions there.

I assume they wash their clothing as needed. Why do you assume otherwise?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:09 PM

17. They actually have cars there too. But somehow people don't think they have washing machines?

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Response to Treefrog (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:15 PM

22. Many people know almost nothing about life in Middle Eastern

countries. There is poverty there, of course. There is also wealth.

Many people also know nothing about Islam. They are simply reacting to the situation without knowledge.

Which is not to say that I would choose to live in that area. I was stationed in Samsun, Turkey for 15 months back in the late 1960s while in the USAF. While there, I met quite a few Turks, in all walks of life. The vast majority of them were nice people, but with different ways of thinking than I had.

I learned a lot about their country, their lifestyles, and how they lived. It's not my cup of tea, although I drank a great deal of Turkish tea while I was there.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #22)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:18 PM

29. Thank you. And I'll bet you know they are Afghans, not Afghani.

Someone posted a thread about this earlier but obviously no one paid it the slightest amount of attention.

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Response to Treefrog (Reply #29)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:19 PM

74. Turkey is kinda far from Afghanistan....

My grandparents were born and raised there.....

Afghanistan is not even in the Middle East...
Turkish men have been wearing slacks for the last 100 years...

Please don't generalize.......

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/Afghanistan_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:05 PM

10. I'm here for the racist and ethnocentric shit show that develops in this thread

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:18 PM

30. We had an exchange student from Peru when I was a kid

One of my friends asked him if they had ironing boards in Peru. He said we have ironing boards and irons and two maids to do the ironing. We laughed and laughed about that for years.

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Response to crud (Reply #30)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:24 PM

42. Now THAT is funny!

Iíve got some similar stories from growing up abroad.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:32 PM

45. One thing I found hilarious was a spot Clarissa Ward was doing, with all these Taliban behind her.

I swear, one of them messed with his headscarf like six times in 20 minutes. All of them were very colorfully dressed, and seemed to constantly adjust their clothing. We were laughing our asses off.

Being on tv I guess, but what a bunch of preening idiots.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:35 PM

47. One Hour Martinizing nt

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Response to doc03 (Reply #47)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:22 PM

75. LOL...Blast from the past. Don't have those in San Antonio

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:14 PM

54. They have not been in hiding in caves for a while now.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:15 PM

55. I would think that they're not all that hot or sweaty.

This is a completely different example, but I think the principle is the same. I saw a video made by some historical costumers examining the question of how women in the 18th/19th century could wear so many layers of clothes and not be fainting from the heat left, right, and sideways.

So, what they did was dress in full historical garb, trooped out to the desert (they live in Reno,) and used a heat measuring device that shows on a computer a color heat map of how hot parts of the body are. And then they changed into modern clothing and did the same thing.

Not only did they feel more comfortable in the historical clothes, they were actually physically cooler. Number one, the historical clothes were made of natural fibers and that helped wick moisture away. Two, the layers of clothing trapped air between the outside and the body, kind of insulating them from the heat. Third, the one wearing a short sleeved tee was hottest because the sun could reach her skin.

Obviously, Afhgan clothing is different, but a lot of the same ideas are there. Hats, natural fibers, covered arms and legs, and layers. So, it would make sense that the traditional clothing would be adapted to living and working in a hot climate, and even though it's counter-intuitive, more clothing can keep you cooler in some situations.


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Response to Chellee (Reply #55)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:25 PM

57. That's interesting

Especially the part about the video. The fabric part also makes sense. I also think a lot of what they wear is durable, as well.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #57)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:13 PM

66. I found it. It was a year ago, but I found it. LOL



They actually wore the whole outfit. The thumbnail implies they went out there in their undies. They did not.

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Response to Chellee (Reply #66)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:10 PM

72. No way do I wear jeans and tee shirts if it is hot outside

They were not dressed for the conditions in their modern clothes.

I wear lose skirts, lose undies, always sleeveless super loose tops and a bra that is several sizes too big. Everything sags...
I only go outside if necessary....(This is what I wear if I'm going to do anything outside)

If I am doing anything in my backyard, I do not wear a bra. The other day, I was in my backyard and some guy was staring at me. (Pissed me off)

I live in South Texas, where it is both hot and humid.

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Response to Chellee (Reply #55)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:26 PM

58. I actually like their clothing.

I think Iíd wear it for gardening.

It looks airy and comfortable.

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Response to Chellee (Reply #55)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:36 PM

60. But How Do They Keep Their Outfits Looking So Clean?....nt

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Response to global1 (Reply #60)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:49 PM

61. Well, according to NASA

"Dust storms can happen any time of the year in Afghanistan. On average, Afghanistan experiences blowing dust one to two days per month in the winter and six days per month at the height of the summer."

So, most of the time it's not that dusty, and when it is, you'd just change clothes because you feel gritty and gross.

Reference: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/76763/afghanistan-dust-storm

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Response to Chellee (Reply #61)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:58 PM

62. So The Taliban Carries Around With Them Additional Outfits?.....

And I guess they go to the local laundromat to wash their dirty clothes

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Response to global1 (Reply #62)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:11 PM

63. I don't really know.

But our soldiers don't go to war with just one uniform. Most people who are traveling take a change (or several) of clothes, and wash them when and however they can. I can only assume that they are washing themselves, and their stuff whenever an opportunity arises.

Washing machines are not the only way to wash an article of clothing. I have washed tons of sweaters in the sink, and then spread them out flat to dry. And frankly, in a pinch, any body of water will do, a river, a bucket, a hose in the back yard.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:29 PM

59. I would think the clothing is appropriate to the climate/environment, as most clothing tends to be.

It's clean because they wash it, or have somebody wash it. The guys you see looking prim and proper in front of the camera aren't the dudes fighting on the front lines.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:26 PM

64. They know when cameras are going to be around and want to look nice.

This is a weird thread.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:46 PM

71. Do they all wear white or is it just the big shots?

I've seen pictures of white in India and Pakistan and their garb often looks dusty and dirty...

Now there are politicians in India who wear white and it always looks nice, but they have their laundry professionally done.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:13 PM

73. They don't always keep it clean. Pics and videos of child brides next to

old ass rapists , I mean husbands show the clothes dirty and full of stains.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Aug 21, 2021, 12:20 AM

76. I really don't know what you're talking about

This is a recent image.
Are you talking about their leaders or are you talking about commoners? This is an image of the Taliban from Aug 17th in Kabul. Their clothes don't look particularly heavy or clean.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/afghanistan-taliban-us-biden-militants-vow-amnesty-afghans-live-in-fear/

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