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2021-08-20T21:53:12+00:00

London (CNN)When US President Joe Biden finally broke his silence on the chaos unfolding in Afghanistan, European allies who'd had high hopes for a reset in the transatlantic alliance were left dismayed. Their disappointment was not at the contents of Biden's address, but the America First optics of the leader of the free world washing his hands of a global problem. The unilateral decision to withdraw seemed to somewhat contradict Biden's claim upon entering the White House that "America is back." A crisis like the one unfolding in Afghanistan has, for some, hammered home the bleak reality that, without America, Europe's immediate ability to control its own destiny is limited. From London to Paris, Brussels to Berlin, the sudden fall of Kabul shone a light on Europe's limited diplomatic heft, military capacity, and political stability. Diplomats and officials all over the continent have privately expressed their sorrow that this is where we are: If the US says it's over, it's over. They now fear the humanitarian and political consequences of mass migration from a country run by militants who've historically harbored terrorists and that is connected to mainland Europe by land. https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/20/europe/europe-left-exposed-intl-cmd/index.html

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Anyone buy this take? JCMach1 Aug 2021 #1

sounds like malarkey to me nt msongs Aug 2021 #2

What kind of bullshit hackwork is this? Aristus Aug 2021 #3

More republican talking points. onecaliberal Aug 2021 #4

Another CNN report how Biden dropped the ball, from two MPs who served in Afghanistan JohnSJ Aug 2021 #5

Oh, for fuck's sake. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #6

Do they sell this baloney by the pound, or do they take it out of the dump and just fling it. marble falls Aug 2021 #7

Bullshit . the UN Security Council recognized Trump's withdrawal plan in March 2020 JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #8

Eternal hand-wringing RussBLib Aug 2021 #9

Such a new-found concern. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #10

LULZ BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #11

JCMach1

(29,242 posts)

1. Anyone buy this take?

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:57 PM

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msongs

(74,203 posts)

2. sounds like malarkey to me nt

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:57 PM

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Aristus

(72,528 posts)

3. What kind of bullshit hackwork is this?

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:57 PM

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Doesn't pass the smell test. European leaders (other than Putin, which disgusting swill this smells like) know and have acknowledged President Biden's re-engagement with the world, after Trump took our country down a very dark path to walk alone.

This is more "blood in the water" click-bait to juice up the anti-government media.

President Biden is just too smart and competent to make for interesting politics, so they try this shit...

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)

4. More republican talking points.

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:58 PM

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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)

5. Another CNN report how Biden dropped the ball, from two MPs who served in Afghanistan

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:58 PM

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Scrivener7

(60,078 posts)

6. Oh, for fuck's sake.

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:59 PM

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marble falls

(72,543 posts)

7. Do they sell this baloney by the pound, or do they take it out of the dump and just fling it.

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:01 PM

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JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)

8. Bullshit . the UN Security Council recognized Trump's withdrawal plan in March 2020

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:01 PM

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Zero dissent from Europe. They'd pulled almost all their troops out.

RussBLib

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9. Eternal hand-wringing

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:02 PM

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Gets old. Gotta try to write something relevant. Quickly. Quickly!

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

10. Such a new-found concern.

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:04 PM

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by the media.

And others too, I'd hazard.

BannonsLiver

(20,859 posts)

11. LULZ

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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:04 PM

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